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« on: August 28, 2017, 11:32:57 AM »

Tail of the Dragon on the 21st.
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2017, 12:28:52 PM »

Atta Boy!
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2017, 01:01:53 PM »

Yep shiney side up!

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Re: Dragon
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2017, 05:11:55 PM »

We rode Moonshiner 28, the Dragon & the Cherohala on the 22nd, a beautiful 230+mile day until the rear tire blew out while cruising at 65 mph on 129 near Murphy, NC :nervous:
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2017, 05:17:29 PM »

Few things are more nerve-racking than a blowout on a motorcycle. Glad you're okay. Nice picture, above.

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Re: Dragon
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2017, 07:42:47 AM »

Glad you are OK. I had a rear blow out and it was not fun.
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2017, 03:26:37 PM »

Neither are good but front is worse :nervous:
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2017, 06:46:33 PM »

 :-\

Rapid tire wear and/or under inflation are critical on bikes.  Can any of you elaborate on how or what led you up to a blow out.  :nixweiss:

I pay casual attention to the air pressure and tread wear on my truck and car,  but the bike needs a weary eye when it comes to tires. :drink:
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2017, 07:57:44 PM »

We rode Moonshiner 28, the Dragon & the Cherohala on the 22nd, a beautiful 230+mile day until the rear tire blew out while cruising at 65 mph on 129 near Murphy, NC :nervous:

Details please, inquiring minds gotta know.

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Nice pic on the dragon muddypaws  :bananarock:
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2017, 09:12:20 AM »

Tail of the Dragon on the 21st.

on my garage wall hangs a warning from the sheriff in that area for speeding. Yes, I was pulled over on the ONLY straightway on the Dragon and given warning for doing 50 in a 35 MPH zone. The wife frowns every time she sees the warning hanging in the garage. Lol
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2017, 12:55:09 PM »

On my last ride there were three cops sitting in different areas. Did not see them pull anyone over.
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2017, 01:29:47 PM »

On my last ride there were three cops sitting in different areas. Did not see them pull anyone over.

Most of the time they are assisting the ambulance/rescue workers as they attend to those that think they can overpower the dragon...
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2017, 08:10:51 PM »

Most of the time they are assisting the ambulance/rescue workers as they attend to those that think they can overpower the dragon...

Or escorting one of the 18 wheelers that mistake the road as a good shortcut over the mountains.... We've had that happen several times while riding the Dragon, and We were grateful for the warnings of the highway patrol to pull off into the next available pullout/wide shoulder.
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2017, 12:47:54 AM »

on my garage wall hangs a warning from the sheriff in that area for speeding. Yes, I was pulled over on the ONLY straightway on the Dragon and given warning for doing 50 in a 35 MPH zone. The wife frowns every time she sees the warning hanging in the garage. Lol

Few years back about 20 of us were riding through, lead bike got a ticket for 50 coming out of a corner on the NC side headed south, we all sailed on by.  Long story he refused to pay at first, eventually cost him over $200.  He will frown if anyone mentions it.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2017, 07:51:38 AM »

Few years back about 20 of us were riding through, lead bike got a ticket for 50 coming out of a corner on the NC side headed south, we all sailed on by.  Long story he refused to pay at first, eventually cost him over $200.  He will frown if anyone mentions it.

While we were waiting for the Sheriff to write up the warnings, and they were both really cool and on Road Kings, two sport bikes went by heading north at around 70 MPH, I asked the officer what was up with that and he said "there is no way for us to catch the sport bikes on Harleys."
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2017, 08:40:42 AM »

While we were waiting for the Sheriff to write up the warnings, and they were both really cool and on Road Kings, two sport bikes went by heading north at around 70 MPH, I asked the officer what was up with that and he said "there is no way for us to catch the sport bikes on Harleys."

True, no way on a HD.  Years ago made it a regular run, now mostly use that stretch as the quicker way to get somewhere but tend to avoid it because of the crotch rockets.  Too many times have come face to face with one - them in the middle of my lane on the wrong side of the road at full lean and their plan was to go shoulder to shoulder to make the turn.  Less than fun.  Speed limit enforcement took what fun was left out of it a few years back.
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2017, 09:36:57 AM »

Back when I was young, dumb and full of....stupidity, I used to play quite a bit on the Dragon.  Back when Honda had their "Hoot" in K'ville and some other rallies after, I would tag team with another feller on taking folks to 129 and back as one of the day rides associated with the rally.  Most of the groups were sport-touring bikes with a GW or crotch rocket thrown in for good measure.  My ride at the time was the '89 EG.  That was and still is the BEST handling big bike I had ever thrown a leg across.  It would sit in the corners and shoot right out the other side better than anything.  I had many of the sport bike types in dismay when we stopped at the crossroads of time for a break.  They were in wonder at how good that big, old Harley handled.  Those were the days when that part of 129 was just getting the reputation of a great road and traffic was polite no matter the bike/rider/circumstance and the tree only had a few parts on it....
The last time I took the dragon, I rode about halfway, pulled over and watched the idiots riders for about an hour and rode home.  That was 16 years ago and I haven't been back since.  There are way too many individuals that disrespect themselves and others on that road today and that isn't my preferred choice of riding styles.
Those that enjoy it today, more power to you....I'll just look at your pictures and take another path.... ;D
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2017, 11:03:56 AM »

Made a nice leisurely ride through 129 last year going to MV GTG on Tuesday midday.  First time I've ever been through that I had no one in front or behind me the whole way. It was actually very enjoyable that way.
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2017, 01:29:14 PM »

Don't mean to three jack but how many of you have rode the Ohio dragon?  AKA the triple nickel, fun fun had to ride it on my way back from NY this past July ... best part is it's 70 plus miles long
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2017, 01:36:44 PM »

Don't mean to three jack but how many of you have rode the Ohio dragon?  AKA the triple nickel, fun fun had to ride it on my way back from NY this past July ... best part is it's 70 plus miles long
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2017, 03:10:59 PM »

Don't mean to three jack but how many of you have rode the Ohio dragon?  AKA the triple nickel, fun fun had to ride it on my way back from NY this past July ... best part is it's 70 plus miles long

I live in Ohio and I have never heard of it!   Where is it??   You have my curiosity roused!  Any pics on a google map or routes for our infotainment GPS?
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2017, 03:21:29 PM »

I live in Ohio and I have never heard of it!   Where is it??   You have my curiosity roused!  Any pics on a google map or routes for our infotainment GPS?
Google Ohio 555, your closer than I am
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2017, 03:22:35 PM »

I live in Ohio and I have never heard of it!   Where is it??   You have my curiosity roused!  Any pics on a google map or routes for our infotainment GPS?
just Google or search YouTube for Tail of the Dragon. It is Route 129 near the Tennessee North Carolina border. 318 turns and 11 miles. Sadly enough it's well popularized but in my opinion it's not even the best Road in the area. While they're try Moonshiner 28 or Wayahl Road. If you're going to ride the dragon I would make sure it's not on the weekend because there is almost a traffic jam all day long on Saturday and Sundays. It's well worth the trip from Ohio because of all the great roads in that immediate area. Not known to most, they filmed a large portion of the Fugitive movie there. At the bottom of the Dragon there is the damn where Harrison Ford jumped from. In a small town called Dillsboro, south and east of the Dragon area the train and bus where they film the crash scene still laying railroad yard. You're also close to Maggie Valley and the Wheels Through Time Museum which is a great way to kill an hour or two.
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2017, 03:25:49 PM »

just Google or search YouTube for Tail of the Dragon. It is Route 129 near the Tennessee North Carolina border. 318 turns and 11 miles. Sadly enough it's well popularized but in my opinion it's not even the best Road in the area. While they're try Moonshiner 28 or Wayahl Road. If you're going to ride the dragon I would make sure it's not on the weekend because there is almost a traffic jam all day long on Saturday and Sundays. It's well worth the trip from Ohio because of all the great roads in that immediate area. Not known to most, they filmed a large portion of the Fugitive movie there. At the bottom of the Dragon there is the damn where Harrison Ford jumped from. In a small town called Dillsboro, south and east of the Dragon area the train and bus where they film the crash scene still laying railroad yard. You're also close to Maggie Valley and the Wheels Through Time Museum which is a great way to kill an hour or two.
Glenncarp, I believe he is asking about the Ohio dragon, its route 555 in Ohio
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2017, 04:32:15 PM »

Glenncarp, I believe he is asking about the Ohio dragon, its route 555 in Ohio

I am.   I have ridden the Tail.     Before I get crap over the picture,  I was dared to ride in Shorts and Flip-Flops on the Dragon so I did (Once)  :)    I had to have the pic!
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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2017, 04:43:32 PM »

I am.   I have ridden the Tail.     Before I get crap over the picture,  I was dared to ride in Shorts and Flip-Flops on the Dragon so I did (Once)  :)    I had to have the pic!

Nice helmet also, you look like Ben Hur  ;D
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2017, 07:42:22 PM »

 :-\
If you had been with me many years ago and taking that ride,  you just might have (really gotten crap) over the picture.  As  I went around one of the curves,  a mid sized motor home trailering a boat trailer was negotiating the hard turn just ahead of me. :oops:

After some of those events,  the State regulators finally put up some signs that try to negate (not let them proceed for those of u from Rio Linda) any such travel along that road from over sized vehicles. 
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2017, 09:00:46 PM »

:-\

Rapid tire wear and/or under inflation are critical on bikes.  Can any of you elaborate on how or what led you up to a blow out.  :nixweiss:

I pay casual attention to the air pressure and tread wear on my truck and car,  but the bike needs a weary eye when it comes to tires. :drink:

In my younger days I worked for GoodYear on tires small to large.
This is my first experience with a blowout on a tubeless m/c tire and I'm somewhat bewildered on this one...

The day before the "blowout", I checked the tires and each was +- a pound and a half low (digital gauge), which considering the lower ambient temperatures in the mountains (coming from Fla) I felt was good / normal,,,

'Aired up the 5k mile Michelin Commander IIs (that had the recommended amount of Ride-On Sealant installed) to the 38F, 42R that I usually run... Both tires looked fine, much less cupping than the OE HD Dunlops at comparable mileage...

Riding a basically counter clockwise loop, Moonshiner 28, Fontana Dam, Deal's Gap, The Dragon, Tellico Plains, Cherohala Skyway, Robbinsville and back toward Murphy, NC... Nearing Murphy on HWY 129 (4 lane) cruising around 65 mph, while changing lanes we both noticed a subtle shake when crossing the centerline, nothing really alarming, then <5 seconds later we both smelled burning rubber, I immediately slowed and pulled over to the side of the road, when around 20 mph or so it was evident that the tire was riding on the rim. It seemed to be an instantaneous loss of pressure, no noises, bumps or anything that would alert us to the instant loss of air pressure... Just moments earlier I had her leaned over hitting bumps in the road at 15-20 over the posted limit, the Bike was faultless...

We were lucky that the flat happened when & where it did, 2-3 miles from the house, good cell coverage, if we were heeled over in the twisties, it could have been a different story... 

Looking at the tire; a single nail hole (no nail) centrally located in the tread, 'thought it would be a good candidate for a plug until we discovered some slits about an inch or so long, inside the tread grooves, near the outside edges...

Over the years I have had 3-4 nails / screws in rear motorcycle tires,,, all were discovered with the nails still in the tires, barely low on air, plugged the tire and rode out the remaining service life, no issues. I never had a nail come out on its own?? As far as the slits,,, I'm thinking that the tire split on its own while riding on the rim (100yds at most) with all that load on it?? I don't really know?? 'Never saw one like this before,,, this is my first instant deflate on a street (tubeless) tire, have had two other instant deflates (F&R) on tube dirt bike tires...On the dirt bikes, the greatest loss of control was when the rear blew...

Surprisingly there was no damage at all to the Rear Wheel.

I don't know if the Ride-On Sealant played any part in the way this issue played out??

       
   
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2017, 09:55:34 PM »

this is my shot on the dragon...it was a blast also
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2017, 06:05:20 AM »

this is my shot on the dragon...it was a blast also

That Left saddlebag is mighty close!
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« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2017, 06:54:11 AM »

That Left saddlebag is mighty close!

Fred may say that's just room for improvement.... ;D :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Dragon
« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2017, 06:43:36 PM »

Fred may say that's just room for improvement.... ;D :2vrolijk_21:
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