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Chainsaw123

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117" Bolt on kit
« on: February 04, 2018, 08:44:38 AM »

New to this site and was wondering if any have installed the 117" kit and what results you've had?
I'm getting ready to have it installed with S&S 585 Cams and was wanting feed back. Thanks!
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2018, 10:09:39 AM »

Mine just got done with S&S 585.  2014 cvo limited. Had the heads done by GMS in Uniontown. He cleaned up the combustion chamber and some intake, checked everything over and had to shim the springs to the right height after port work. Kept stock valves and springs.
Also used adjustable pushrods because I lost a little height (decked .010-015 to make up for what was removed when cleaning up head, keep same volume) He believes the water cooled heads are good on the exhaust. The longer kit pushrods won't work as ss585 is stock base circle. stock pushrods also too long with what was removed during decking and I also used .030 cometic head gasket. I actually put rocker boxes back on and off and pulled the adjustables out to see how close...about .040 shorter than stock.
Used Fueling tappets. Also run the vance and Hines power duals with hi output mufflers (dyno operator said they flow too much and cost me a couple)
Final numbers. 117hp and 129ft/lbs.  He runs rear tire at 40 psi to compare bikes closer and determine whether a build has a problem. He said at 50psi, where it is on the road, only adds a couple to final number but makes no difference in the tune. he said the bike is pulling all the way to the end and the torque is nice and flat across. I haven't seen it yet.
Some discussion on the ss585 and se259 will say the 10:1 compression of the kit is too low but Greg at GMS disagrees being the engine is so big. He picked the cam for me when I was looking for an earlier intake close. Either way I ride cross country and didn't want more lift or compression. Sure some was left on table comparing around here. Can't say anything about ride, snowing  here
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2018, 11:09:56 AM »

Lots of good info here for the Twin Cam.

https://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?board=19.0

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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2018, 11:28:36 AM »

New to this site and was wondering if any have installed the 117" kit and what results you've had?
I'm getting ready to have it installed with S&S 585 Cams and was wanting feed back. Thanks!
Youre in the drivers seat. You can get these to hit about 120 square right out of the box all SE parts stock heads. If the heads are ported with a larger intake and added compression and larger TB plus cam it isn't that hard to pop over 140 sq. The old saying speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2018, 02:05:03 PM »

The 117 kit from Harley using the 10.7 : 1 piston from Suburban Motors Harley in Wi. You can go to thier web site .. They don't use the 259 cam but this impressive dyno sheet is with the 259.
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2018, 04:33:12 PM »

That's more like it. The compression number scares many. I can tell you from first hand experience on the phone and respoding to emails.  They don't understand that the cam controls the " corrected" compression,  the number to consider. Acrs now help with starting so when tuned properly there isn't a downside to the compression. Of course premium  becomes mandatory at sea level.
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2018, 03:04:36 PM »

this is mine 10:5:1comp woods cam
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2018, 05:44:10 PM »

Thanks! I appreciate the replies. I’m looking at head work to I guess looking at the numbers posted that have had work done
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2018, 05:47:12 PM »

Nice numbers on the breakout!
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2018, 12:05:24 PM »

I did the Suburban Speed Harley 117 cylinder/piston combo, then a mix or parts from there based on goals. I love the 117 platform and bet you will, too. Great power at reasonable compression, and not just peak numbers if done right. Nice broad power. I had head work done to get up to around 11 to 1. We were aiming for 200/200 CCP, ended up getting 195/195 with 135hp/133tq. Plenty for me while being able to tour the country and top off with occasional subpar fuel if needed. No pinging or hiccups.
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2018, 06:13:10 PM »

What Cam, exhaust and who did your head work? I’m doing the same kit with a tman 590 and suburban speed head work as well.  Your numbers look great. Did you touch the bottom end?
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2018, 10:24:57 PM »

CVO1717 Looks Great !     What did it make SAE can't see a correction factor?
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2018, 09:50:55 AM »

Harry it is in his signature
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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2018, 11:06:32 AM »

Sorry don’t see that on the App :(


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Re: 117" Bolt on kit
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2018, 02:51:53 PM »

Again, if all you redneck hotrodders didn't work that bottom end on all that bolt-on 117 chit, and you ride it like you stole it, you will be spending some more money.  But what do I know?  I'm just an Ol' Countryboy with no education.  Later--HUBBARD 
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