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110 breakdown
« on: August 11, 2018, 12:06:52 PM »

         A friend of mine is broke down in Canada, 1100 miles from home. I know this is vague, but is the 110 notorious for a certain type of breakdown. A gentleman he talked to said that it might be a camshaft problem. Theirs an HD shop near him but they don't do work on Saturday.
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2018, 12:17:32 PM »

Lifters go out. Mine did with 23,000 miles on my 2015 RGU CVO. Destroyed the entire engine. Thankfully HD sent a new longblock a few months out of warranty and I’m very grateful.
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2018, 12:50:54 PM »

Mine broke last Saturday. Tech said something in the cam area. Check out the piston lands. Long block under warranty also. 41,800 miles. No previous issues, no engine mods. Ran like a top before last week when I started hearing a squealing sound.
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2018, 02:18:08 PM »

Mine broke last Saturday. Tech said something in the cam area. Check out the piston lands. Long block under warranty also. 41,800 miles. No previous issues, no engine mods. Ran like a top before last week when I started hearing a squealing sound.

When the lifter rollers stop rolling, a squealing sound is usually the immediate result, soon followed by other broken parts.  Way more common failure than some might think on the 110 engines. 

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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2018, 04:39:20 PM »

         A friend of mine is broke down in Canada, 1100 miles from home. I know this is vague, but is the 110 notorious for a certain type of breakdown. A gentleman he talked to said that it might be a camshaft problem. Theirs an HD shop near him but they don't do work on Saturday.
                                              Thanks Jonnierock

Where abouts is he? I can't offer much help in the way of repair, but could point in the right direction for local repair, as well as keep company and shuttle around is nec. I'm located just outside of Vancouver BC if that is any help.

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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2018, 06:56:14 PM »

Where abouts is he? I can't offer much help in the way of repair, but could point in the right direction for local repair, as well as keep company and shuttle around is nec. I'm located just outside of Vancouver BC if that is any help.

Paul

You on the sunshine coast Paul?

I'm an old Powell Riveright of the 60's myself.

Sorry about your friend  JONNIEROCK  hope it not too bad
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2018, 07:07:46 PM »

You on the sunshine coast Paul?

I'm an old Powell Riveright of the 60's myself.

No unfortunately not on Coast, so beautiful there, can't wait to ride that Sechelt/Gibsons ride. I'm out in the valley in Abbotsturd.

Cheers  :drink:

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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2018, 09:24:41 PM »

I can help, in Edgewood, WA.
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2018, 12:36:27 AM »

Where abouts is he? I can't offer much help in the way of repair, but could point in the right direction for local repair, as well as keep company and shuttle around is nec. I'm located just outside of Vancouver BC if that is any help.

         Heading home tomorrow. Broke down south of Medicine hat. Thanks.

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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2018, 11:31:28 AM »

No unfortunately not on Coast, so beautiful there, can't wait to ride that Sechelt/Gibsons ride. I'm out in the valley in Abbotsturd.

Cheers  :drink:

Paul

To bad Lee at Jarz is closed on Monday, you can try yje HD Dealer in Chilwack just east of you, don't know it they are open on Sunday/Monday or the dealers Vancouver.

Good luck,

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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2018, 03:30:06 PM »

            Sounds Like a complete motor failure according to the shop. My buddy seems to think from talking to some that the 110 usually takes a crap at about 25k miles. Do any of you have a high mileage 110. I thought I read somewhere on here about 110 and longevity.
               Thanks for your help.
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2018, 03:35:15 PM »

          He's got it home now. Rented a uhaul. The shop where he bought it will probably tear into it this week. I'll keep you up dated as to the problem.
                            Thanks for help. Jonnierock
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2018, 02:08:59 AM »

      Well a couple of lifters went south, tore up the whole motor. Needs a complete rebuild.
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2018, 08:22:02 AM »

Hey Jonnierock -    It does not look like you have mentioned any details about your friends bike?    What Year Make and Model?   Is it Bone Stock?  If Not,  what kind of Mods, right down to Cat Converter, Tune, mechanicals, etc?   Is your friend the original Owner?    What was the maintenance history for the bike?    If you mentioned it somewhere then I missed it!   I think that these kinds of details are important to try to understand these kinds of failures.   Thanks!
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2018, 09:37:39 AM »

Hey Jonnierock -    It does not look like you have mentioned any details about your friends bike?    What Year Make and Model?   Is it Bone Stock?  If Not,  what kind of Mods, right down to Cat Converter, Tune, mechanicals, etc?   Is your friend the original Owner?    What was the maintenance history for the bike?    If you mentioned it somewhere then I missed it!   I think that these kinds of details are important to try to understand these kinds of failures.   Thanks!
If you read the horror stories about the 110 motors and catastrophic lifter failure you'll find that these things don't really matter.  I had two failures each on two different bikes both with the 110 motor.  First bike had only stage 1 and tuned, second bike was bone stock.  Problem is the valve train hammers the lifters and leads to the failures.

It would be nice to have confidence that if you'd not built your motor and meticulously maintained it you could avoid such failures.  Unfortunately that does not seem to be the case.
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2018, 10:59:02 AM »

       2012 CVO Road Glide. bought new. 38K miles. No Cat. HD Race tuner. Kerker Mufflers. Regular Harley 20-50 petroleum oil, changed every 2000 miles or less
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2018, 03:33:21 PM »

If you read the horror stories about the 110 motors and catastrophic lifter failure you'll find that these things don't really matter.  I had two failures each on two different bikes both with the 110 motor.  First bike had only stage 1 and tuned, second bike was bone stock.  Problem is the valve train hammers the lifters and leads to the failures.

It would be nice to have confidence that if you'd not built your motor and meticulously maintained it you could avoid such failures.  Unfortunately that does not seem to be the case.
I have read the horror stories and I agree with what you are saying.   Just trying to wrap my head around it and I still think it is nice to get a feel for the actual vehicle specifics when you read these threads.    In this case looks like it failed at 38k and was basically stock.   

Roller Lifters and Radical cam profiles have been around for a long time.   Cars have been running them for many years.    Based on that, You might think that lubrication would be the culprit, however 88, 96 and 103s are all basically the same animal and I have run those engines 60+k with no failures.  This is the first 110 I have owned and so far I love it.  The valvetrain in it is actually quieter than my previous two bikes.

I am curious what were the details on the other 110 you had fail?  I assume one is the 2012 but the others in your sig are M8s?
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Re: 110 breakdown
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2018, 03:50:25 PM »

I have read the horror stories and I agree with what you are saying.   Just trying to wrap my head around it and I still think it is nice to get a feel for the actual vehicle specifics when you read these threads.    In this case looks like it failed at 38k and was basically stock.   

Roller Lifters and Radical cam profiles have been around for a long time.   Cars have been running them for many years.    Based on that, You might think that lubrication would be the culprit, however 88, 96 and 103s are all basically the same animal and I have run those engines 60+k with no failures.  This is the first 110 I have owned and so far I love it.  The valvetrain in it is actually quieter than my previous two bikes.

I am curious what were the details on the other 110 you had fail?  I assume one is the 2012 but the others in your sig are M8s?
2007 CVO Ultra (first year with the 110 motor) - at about 22k a valve guide dropped down from the head and hit the piston.  Not lifter failure and the valve guide problems were addressed (finally).  H-D sent complete new motor which lasted about 40k and then there was catastrophic lifter failure which grenaded the motor.  ESP sprang for a complete new motor.  Bike was Stage one with SE Hi-Flow A/C, D&D FatCats and SERT tuned.

2012 CVO Ultra with about 24k had catastrophic lifter failure.  H-D sent a complete new motor.  Again about the 40-45k mark on that new motor I heard a squeal from the lifter (it wasn't rolling).  Stopped immediately but too late because some metal particles had circulated through the motor.  ESP did a total rebuild from the crank on up.  This bike was bone stock - no mods of any kind to the power train.

I traded the 2012 while the dealership was rebuilding the motor for a 2017 CVO Limited and now that for a 2018 Tri-Glide.

I know some folks have made it a lot further with their 110s but I was not so fortunate. 

Good luck with yours and I do agree the 110 is an awesome and strong performer.  Just wish it weren't so prone to pre-mature self destruction as many can attest to.
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