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[DBinSD]

Hi all,
New member to the CVO family w/2015 RGU CVO <15k miles no issues thus far.

I ride mostly 2up, long dat rides as well as cross country. prefer back curvy roads, lower speed, higher tq. I do not need race HP curves or speed. Passing power is fine.

I will change lifters, rods, oil pump and plate. (S&S Premium & rods, TC3)

My question is:

While in there, without doing head work (labor savings) I plan on cam change (possible TTS100), air intake, head pipe and muffler swap BUT, do not prefer loud. I like quiter / deep sounds.

Goal is to improve TQ over stock, keep relatively quite, replace defective parts and keep shop labor to minimum. In other words, relatively stock just better.

Am I barking up the wrong tree?

Thank for you imput.

[HD Street Performance]

Coming from a head porter, keep with your plan unless you want more horsepower up top and a broader torque curve.

If I was on a reliability expedition, which I was at one time I own a CVO 2013 RK by the way, I would change to a cam with a little more overlap like the TTS 150 and use a .030 HG. At that time change the valve springs to a little lighter overall pressure, not beehives. I do practice what I preach. I wanted reliability, cool running and a little more power but something I could accomplish on a weekend day (no porting). Mine has springs changed, HD adjustable pushrods, Topline Hylift slow bleed lifters, Andrews TW54, .030 HG, Premium dual springs with Tool Steel retainers 135# seat pressure 380# open, viton seals, head fans. Tuned with TTS

[CVO 2015]

Dbin,

Check out the posts in the "cams again" thread...You are headed in the right direction, but if you want more later you may want to consider numerous other midrange cams?TTS 150, TMAN 577, 600, OR 625, GMR 577, TC 24D, SE 585, WOODS 777, OR 888, CR 575, or S&S 570 just to name a few) , when combined with the proper headwork, and compression for your riding style , and pipe selection could produce high torque in the lower rpms..choose your cam and head builder wisely..
GOOD LUCK

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[DBinSD]

HD Street and CVO 2015,
Thank you for your responses and info.

However, both responses require “head work” or at leasr the labor to get into them. That is what I am trying to avoid. Your recommendations are very sound though and do not fall on deaf ears. Hard of hearing yes.

What about getting the overlap of the TTS150 WithOut changing the HG? Not worth it?

[CVO 2015]

Dbsin... I was just like you, a non believer,  until I got headwork done in my 103 with Don at HDSP....My 103 (116 tq.) gets more torque than my CVO SE 110 with Fullsachs (114)with the same cam...SE 585...but when I do my 110 heads they will be closer to 130 torque...Also changing my pipe to a D&D Fatcat on my 103 to get more h.p..Headwork is roughly 599.99 with Don and they will be tailored to whichever cams you choose to get the optimum torque...You can do it once and get the most or do it twice and spend double the labor..

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[DBinSD]

CVO,
I am a believer in head work. I unfortunately do not wish to do the work myself this go around and was looking to save on shop labor.
To have it torn apart then send the heads out makes me very nervous sitting in a dealer or someones shop. 

[CVO 2015]

DBsinSD

Ask your shop what's the difference in labor price for cams vs. Cams and head gasket..? Then determine if it's worth it to you? If they are going to remove the heads, then the base gasket is at the bottom anyways..I would change out the lifters to S&S or Johnson Hylift since that seems to be the weak point in CVOs ..I rode my bike 250 miles yesterday in some cool windy weather California..Basrtsow/Yermo  area..Not sure where you live or your weather,  but the winter is a perfect time to increase performance..

My CVO ran really good yesterday...but then again my wife's 2015 103 ran good as well..

I live in the desert and rode 19, 600 miles this last year and I prefer to keep my compression under 10.5 in order to put pump has in it, gas and go...My CVO went trouble free to Canada this last June..My 2012 roadglide has 83,000 miles and we took a trouble free trip to North Carolina (via the 10 to Fl.) and came back the 40..Grand kids stay in Vegas..We ride their often..Love Havesu too..visited Steve (Full Sachs DX pipe, and 1.75 power cores, and Aim Slip and Assist clutch with new plate)...Wife loves Death Valley...All hot places to ride in the summer..

If I was the type to leave well enough alone I would have put the TTS 100 in(crusher pipes, fullsachs, or D&D Fatcats, dyno tune (with TTS, or power vision) and refrained from looking at any other forums or dyno sheets..lol

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[DBinSD]

CVO,

I will ask them.

Are your Fullsacs w/1.75 cores quite? Did they rob torque at all? Why did you not choose 2.0?

[CVO 2015]

They are pretty quiet, and gave me higher torque earlier in the powerband...same thing TTS 100 and 150 with a good pipe,air cleaner, and tune...Steve (at full Sachs recommended 1.75s for torque (and quitest), 2.0 for both, and the last one for h.p and more noise...and looking at the dyno sheets for both the 1.75s and 2.0s which I think Steve at GMR did they were 1 ft lb/1 h.p difference ..

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[CVO 2015]

@Dbin..Talk to Steve at Full sach..He has done a cvo 110 with his pipe and a Tman 600 cam with a cometic head gasket getting 120 torque..no headwork..

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[DBinSD]

Thanks CVO, I have emailed him though the forum.

[CVO 2015]

You can email him regular email as well..gofaster@fullsachs.com

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[Fatboy]

https://fullsac.com

FullSac is the correct spelling guys.

Not to be confused with another site vendor who does awesome work for us here: John Sachs.

Carry on....

[DBinSD]

Gracias !

[CVO 2015]

Sorry guys..I hate this Note 9..spelling is horrible..

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