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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2007, 09:06:55 AM »

If there are similar phone jacks in the house, pull off one of those and see what configuration of wires was used, should be the same for the other one.
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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2007, 09:35:25 AM »

ive gone through this myself, in an older house. one day phones stoped working. had 2 lines in the house if you picked up one the other would go dead. if your selling the house let the new owners deal with it. we ended up pulling most of the wires and doing home runs back to a new distobution block. the hose had to many junction boxes with wires coming and going to places we couldnt identify.
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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2007, 09:55:00 AM »

The easiest thing to do is go to Radio Shack/Home Depot and buy a phone line tester for five bucks, plug it in and touch the wires to the  terminals in various combinations until the indicator turns green.
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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2007, 02:07:30 PM »

ive gone through this myself, in an older house. one day phones stoped working. had 2 lines in the house if you picked up one the other would go dead. if your selling the house let the new owners deal with it. we ended up pulling most of the wires and doing home runs back to a new distobution block. the hose had to many junction boxes with wires coming and going to places we couldnt identify.
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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2007, 09:34:47 PM »

Ok, here's your racy pics!  Will that help?  These are the Rome Hooters Girl on Career Day or Halloween.  Not sure which, I'll have to ask Frenchy to clarify, but they obviously don't mind showing their butt so I took the liberty to share it here.

Anything to help solve the problem.  I feel terrible.  I've stressed out my brother and my father in the past several days.  I've stressed DCFiremann out for at least the last month!  I've called and woke him up a half-dozen times trying to figure this out.  I'm glad he's in Maryland and I'm in Georgia at the moment!  He might strangle me otherwise!  So I'm trying not to drive anyone else to drinking....LOL!

Hillbilly, hick, redneck, idiot!  At this point, you can call them what you want!  I'll call you a genius if you can tell me how to fix it.  To try the different combination of pairs, is it ok if I strip the ends off?


YES YES YES YES.  :huepfenlol2:
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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2007, 02:14:18 PM »

Hey Gettinold! You may need your new big old fat buddy from Indiana after all!
Since you posted the hot pics, I'll help you with your situation. Everyone has given good advice but here is some with a step by step solution.

1. Have your brother in law calm down, this is not the end of the world!

2. Oustside you house is a telephone company interface box. One side opens for customer access. In older homes, the installers ran one four conductor wire from the outside and just looped through every location where inside jacks were needed. Take a regular wired phone with you outside, open the customer access side. Inside you will see the house wires under red and green screws. a short flat wire with a RJ-45 plug connects the customer wires to the phone company side.
Unplug the short modular plug and plug your regular phone in and see if you get a dial tone. You mentioned that you are using DSL so you should have the newer box as I am describing. You should have a DSL filter on each inside line that is only used for phone.

3. To answer your other questons, old phones used two wires the same as the newer ones, usually red and green for the phone. The yellow and black was commonly used to connect to a low voltage transformer block to power the lighted phone dials. If not used for this, they could be used as an alternate pair for phone signal or for a second phone line. Since the red and green seem to be terminated, the yellow and black are your signal wires. The pic you posted looks like it has six screw terminals which will Carry up to three phone lines but you most likely use only one of these pairs. The reason I describe the other combinations is that just wiring the jack wrong and not having a phone plugged in should not disrupt service to the other jacks in the house. The exception to this is if you would have one of the old transformers feeding 6 volts AC to your wires.

So, first verify that the line is good at the outside box, then identify which pair is feeding to the inside. Then try each pair of screws (using the black and yellow) on the jack in question until it works. There is a correct polarity but the phone should work either way on newer phones. You can get a handy Radio Shack tester for under five bucks that shows if the line is working and in proper polarity and check all of your lines. I would suggest putting on a new jack but it looks like the old one is recessed in the base board.
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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2007, 06:20:47 PM »

Ok, here's your racy pics!  Will that help?  These are the Rome Hooters Girl on Career Day or Halloween.  Not sure which, I'll have to ask Frenchy to clarify, but they obviously don't mind showing their butt so I took the liberty to share it here.

V,
     The one on the far right has a killer a$$. Got any more pics. I don't know jack chit about electrical stuff, but if you get me a date with her I'll enroll in Tech School, ride to Georgia and fix your phone jack

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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2007, 03:29:02 AM »

V,
     The one on the far right has a killer a$$. Got any more pics. I don't know jack chit about electrical stuff, but if you get me a date with her I'll enroll in Tech School, ride to Georgia and fix your phone jack
B B

BB, BE SURE TO RIDE OVER TO "HOOTERS" AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF.  :huepfenlol2: AFTER YOU FIX V'S JACK.
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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2007, 11:56:31 PM »

The Red and green pair are normally Tip and Ring ,Line 1. Yellow and black are tip and Ring , Line 2. Normal single line telephone utilizes Red  & Green (line 1). The DSL will normally share Red & Green also, unless you have a homegrown system or an alarm .
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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2007, 07:22:56 AM »

V,
     The one on the far right has a killer a$$. Got any more pics. I don't know jack chit about electrical stuff, but if you get me a date with her I'll enroll in Tech School, ride to Georgia and fix your phone jack B B

Man I just read this thread and it is some funny S^%T!!!!!  Thanks for the help guys. Bell south came out and they can't fix it either. She has a phone now but with a lot of buzzing in the line. It really doesn't matter as she is now in Maryland. BUT SHE STILL NEEDS TO SELL THE HOUSE!!!!

Hey B/B since you are going to come to Georgia and enroll in tech school, you will need a place to stay! HINT HINT! ;D

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Re: ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WIRING OLD PHONE JACKS?
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2007, 07:30:48 PM »

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DO YOU HAVE A HOOTERS UP THERE. :nixweiss:  HAVE V POST SOME MORE PICS IF SO.  ;D
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