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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2005, 06:32:47 PM »

HD I promise this is all in good fun. We all need this info and everyone benefits from this board. So I want to get along with everyone even RODNEY KING!

Shrader no bad feelings here just some good and some bad info. Stay safe

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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2005, 07:43:01 PM »

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I know that but you said they don't make one!!!!! So I gave you a part number!

If you read back somewhere I did post part numbers for pistons to increase the 103 motor to 10.5 to 1 uncorrected. The numbers are as follows standard bore 22483-04 plus .005 22484-04 plus .010 22485-04. So we now have an answer for OPEE. They better be the right ones because I have a set setting in my shop waiting till after Myrtle to install them!



I was under the myth that the SEEG had a different throttle body if I am wrong I stand corrected. All I do know is mine has a Zippers 50mm throttle body. I did make a call today to see what size the standard throttle was and the guru did not know but would check and let me know tomorrow. It is either 38mm or 40mm. I still thought the SE models had a larger bore but if I am wrong it isn't the first time and I am sure it won't be the last! Stay safe.

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DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE THESE PISTONS IN YOUR STOCK HEADS!!!
READ CLOSELY DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE THESE PISTONS.

If you read the description for usage closely you will find that these pistons are to be used for the 103 + (plus) heads. Your stock heads are not these heads part number 17072-03 page 42 item and you will tear up major chit. These heads are basically as cast versions of the CNC ported HTCC heads with a slightly larger intake valve.

I don't know who sold them to you but they will not work without modifcation.

As I said H-D does not offer Higher Compression Pistons for the 103 (NOT PLUS) heads.

As for the size of the stock throttle body-the 95-01 M&M stock throttle body is a dual throat 38mm unit. The stock Delphi throttle body used on softails since 01 and all efi since 02 is 43mm and it is a single throat. And I don't have to call nobody.

And about the 43mm throttle body part number thing-we were talking about an 04 SEEG. Try to get your part number on it and ride it.


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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2005, 07:49:13 PM »

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I GUESS YOU NEED TO LOOK BACK AT REPLIES 17,28,30 Read very carefully there was never anything said about adjustables being junk!!!!!

NOW ISN'T THIS FUN AND WHERE IS THE KING WHEN YOU NEED HIM????????

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You are correct-I meant to type Non-ADJUSTABLE

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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2005, 08:04:02 PM »

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Hey DAWG

Let us know about that throttle body inquiry!

I would like to know what size the one is on my 103.

Shrader?????????????? you know? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]


43mm at the butterly

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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2005, 08:40:48 PM »

Shrader you are correct they fit they 103+ heads.  I did go back and read the catalog and saw the little + mark next to the 103.

The dealer that sold them to me and stated they will work. I had a stock head off of a 103 (not the plus) heads and took it to my local machinest. He was going to do the mods and that is also why I went with .005 over on the pistons so he could set piston to wall clearences. When him and I talked last fall he did say something about the bath tub and I really am not sure what the out come was. But you will know when I do the work in about a month or so. I was and still am going to do a lot performance mods to the factory heads. As I stated I want the bike to look as stock as posible.  

I am going to check throttle body numbers on the SEEG and ultra for that year. Also check the size. I will let eveyone know what the out come is.

Shrader thanks for the info. Stay safe.

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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2005, 09:38:05 PM »

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Shrader you are correct they fit they 103+ heads.
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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2005, 09:42:53 PM »

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Here I go!

Have to give this one to Shrader.

DAWG, on your reply # 19 you said "the throttle body on our SEEG is Harley's 43mm,,,etc.

After reading Shraders post I whipped out the S/E catalog.

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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2005, 10:07:28 PM »

Thanks to Mr. Shrader and the Dawg

Two grown men disagreeing, but eventually getting it resolved.

No cuss words!

No personal attacks.

No one being someone's puppet.

That's how it should be!

"Tater", I say again, you are right about the Indian and the yankees.
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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2005, 10:12:37 PM »

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Thanks to Mr. Shrader and the Dawg

Two grown men disagreeing, but eventually getting it resolved.

No cuss words!

No personal attacks.

No one being someone's puppet.

That's how it should be!

"Tater", I say again, you are right about the Indian and the yankees.
Great teams [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

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Can't say I didn't want to cuss a time or two. Maybe that there Dale Carnegie stuff is working after all.

Oh Chip, I know you'll enjoy this, seems OTIS just called and he's dug up some of Hubbards old wedding pictures. He's supposed to post 'em directly.

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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2005, 10:20:17 PM »

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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2005, 10:47:23 PM »

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Otis for president! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]


It may be Otis for Pres and Vice President Tater.  But after everything that's come  along in this thread today there's no doubt it's Shrader for Chief of Staff and White House Motorcycle Mechanic (WHMM).  Dawg gets to come put out the fires we start when the rest of us are invited to come visit  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2005, 11:02:08 PM »

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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2005, 04:28:46 AM »

You guys are killing me. Instead of fighting all of those fires(I'm kinda gettin tired of that) can I be Shraders assistant? I promise I won't use any bad words!!!!!!!

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Re: 103" COMPRESSION INCREASE
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2005, 04:39:01 AM »

Shrader since you do this chit for a living! Now I'm not bashing this is a serious question. Back in the hay day of the Evo there was a guy from up north (can't remember where) that had a design for the evo head that made goobs of horsepower. He did a little welding and filling of the evo head and walah he designed a hemi combustion chamber and had pistons to match. That claimed worked very well. I don't have any frist hand experience with his work so I don't know for sure.

I have to look back in my archives and see if I have any notes but I'm wondering if this guy is still in business and did he try the same thing for the two cammer?  If he did he just might  have a piston to match the huge combustion chamber for these heads.

Just a thought. Stay safe.

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« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2005, 07:47:13 AM »

I can clear some of this up.
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