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Question for the gear heads
« on: September 10, 2005, 12:40:37 PM »

A buddy of mine has an 02 RK, bone stock. He was coming back from the beach last weekend and it started making strange noisies, still ran good. He left it at a local shop and on Monday they looked at it. They say lots of metal in the oil, the cam bearings are shoot along with the chain. They are going to replace all the cam parts, upgrade the cams, stage 1, and SE mufflers.
With the experience I've had with engines, an engine that had lots of metal in the oil needed to be torn down and looked at for other damage but they aren't going to do that??? Does anyone that has a great deal of HD experience think this isn't nescessary? Sure sounds strange to me.
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Re: Question for the gear heads
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2005, 04:18:14 PM »

06ultrase,

I had a wrist pin keeper come off and they tore the engine down completely because there is no way you can be sure it all got trapped in the oil filter nor would I want to take that chance especially if you like to ride long distances.   The tiniest piece of metal could FUBAR your cylinders / Oil Pump and hurt the new parts you just paid to put in.

There is no way in hell I would ever except a bike back without having it torn down cleaned completely and then put back together if it were mine.  

Anyone who does accept it backwithout being completely torn down and cleaned is just begging to do this again in the near future.
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Re: Question for the gear heads
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2005, 07:33:47 PM »

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I had a wrist pin keeper come off and they tore the engine down completely because there is no way you can be sure it all got trapped in the oil filter nor would I want to take that chance especially if you like to ride long distances.
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Re: Question for the gear heads
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2005, 07:54:17 PM »

That's what I thought I was going to hear from you guys. I couldn't agree more.
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Re: Question for the gear heads
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2005, 08:02:11 AM »

H-D has always maintained that cam bearing, chain, tensioner, etc. failures do not require teardown and cleaning of the crankcase, since the cavities are separate and the oil in a TC goes through the filter prior to entering the engine, unlike the old EVO system.  When they were doing the cam bearing repairs on the early TC88's, they only changed out the support plate, cams, bearings, chains, etc., and would not pay to do a complete teardown of the cases.

I'm with everyone else - this is not the way I would do it.  The entire engine should be torn down and checked thoroughly.  And the oil pump should definitely be replaced, since all that metal had to go through it on the way to the sump and again on the way to the filter.  BTW, if any of you read American Iron, Donny Peterson of Heavy Duty Cycles wrote an article some time ago stating the same thing - complete teardown recommended.
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