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Why does this map work so well??
« on: September 19, 2005, 08:51:21 AM »

'05 SEEG that we dyno'd with a SERT ..ended up with a/f at wot of 13.4 ..nice flat line. Cruise numbers were 14.0 ....made just under 100 hp and just over 100 tq ..with a/c ..factory exhaust and one piece SE II slip-ons...I'm used to how it rides by now.
So I'm bored yesterday and i'm looking at the various caned maps in the SERT.
Looking at the CVO Fatboy maps.... I lowered all the target a/f numbers to a max of 14.0 for both cylinders...cut the Decel Enleanment numbers by 50 % for popping and left the VE numbers and timing alone as the tables are much more aggressive than the E-Glide map.
Loaded it and rode.... Starts better hot and cold...Idles smoother...throttle response WAY better.... it will now pull the front tire a couple of inches on a 1-2 shift..WTF ??
I'm leavin it this way till I can get it back on the dyno. ..I'm picking up some fresh plugs so I can get a good read on them..run the bike on 94 sunoco...My but dyno is telling me its gonna have better numbers ....
« Last Edit: September 19, 2005, 09:03:17 AM by syclone »
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Re: Why does this map work so well??
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2005, 06:52:10 PM »

What is the map number you used?

I used #13, 127HX022-A1.MT5

SE air cleaner, V&H ovals with true duals and the above map. No dyno yet. Raised the rev limit to 6k and on a hard run 1st-2nd shift pulls the wheel 2-4".
I just looked at the data, seems most of my test run the AFR was between 14.2 - 14.5

I do have a decel crackle and the occasional decel backfire.
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Re: Why does this map work so well??
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2005, 07:49:18 PM »

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What is the map number you used?

I used #13, 2005_SEEG_127HX022-A1.MT5

SE air cleaner, V&H ovals with true duals and the above map. No dyno yet. Raised the rev limit to 6k and on a hard run 1st-2nd shift pulls the wheel 2-4".
I just looked at the data, seems most of my test run the AFR was between 14.2 - 14.5

I do have a decel crackle and the occasional decel backfire.


My exact setup soon,  I wonder if I could put the Race tuner in myself and map it myself and save a bunch of dough!
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Re: Why does this map work so well??
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2005, 09:05:11 PM »

Remove the right side cover, plug in the module, hook up a laptop (easiest, not required, could use a PC), download the map

GO out and enjoy.
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Re: Why does this map work so well??
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2005, 07:10:24 AM »

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What is the map number you used?

I used #13, 2005_SEEG_127HX022-A1.MT5

SE air cleaner, V&H ovals with true duals and the above map. No dyno yet. Raised the rev limit to 6k and on a hard run 1st-2nd shift pulls the wheel 2-4".
I just looked at the data, seems most of my test run the AFR was between 14.2 - 14.5

I do have a decel crackle and the occasional decel backfire.

I'm running map 127MK004-A1 .MT5...05 CVO Fat Boy.....Should be where you would want to be as the true duals change the VE's on both cylinders . Reduce all the target A/f ratios for both cylinders that are above 14.0 down 14.0....Make sure to cut the Decel Enleanment numbers by 50 % for popping and load it. I made some other changes cause I'm just running the stock exhaust with SE slip ons and a/c of course.....If you look at the ve and timing differences between the two maps you will see that the 127Mk004 is more "aggressive"
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Re: Why does this map work so well??
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2005, 10:04:07 AM »

I'm going to guess that the timing is more aggressive due to the bike weighing a lot less.
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Re: Why does this map work so well??
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2005, 03:46:23 PM »

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I'm going to guess that the timing is more aggressive due to the bike weighing a lot less.

Put a 300 lb guy on the Fat boy and a 150 lb on the E-glide and your about equal.
The reason for the difference is the change in exhaust scavaging and fill due to the exhaust difference (2-2 vs basically 2-1) and the extra load to
« Last Edit: September 27, 2005, 07:57:35 PM by syclone »
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04 night train 95" 10.5:1 KBs,ported and decked heads, tw55g cams,rollers,3.37,44cv
01 Dyna,95" ported SE heads,wood t
 

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