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« on: January 20, 2009, 12:30:30 PM »
When the Numbster (08SEUC3) goes in for the enhancement next month, I want to add a swingarm stabilizer. Is True Track still the way to go? I see Progressive and others now offer similar models? Do we still get group discount from True track? All advice welcome.
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2009, 12:34:23 PM »
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2009, 01:28:05 PM »
If you are dead set on installing one and not replacing the bushings in your swing arm.....then use one that does not bolt directly to your oil pan. Too much stress on the bolt holes will oblong the holes in your trans case.
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2009, 01:53:25 PM »
comfortablynumb,
ragdocktor AKA Ron @ True Track is great to deal with and offers us a discount when you mention being a member at the time of the order. I just purchased the stabilizer and the Baker Plus One oil pan from Ron, and my dealer is installing them during the 10,000 mi service and  HD "enhancement" program. If you purchase the pan from True Track you not only get the discount, the pan has a boss machined in the pan to attach the stabilizer and eliminate the cage that hogasm is refering to. You also have an extra quart of oil in the engine. All around great deal! Check out the pan at Baker Drivetrain. Good Luck!

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Re: True Track or
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2009, 02:50:09 PM »
Quote from: hogasm on January 20, 2009, 01:28:05 PM
If you are dead set on installing one and not replacing the bushings in your swing arm.....then use one that does not bolt directly to your oil pan. Too much stress on the bolt holes will oblong the holes in your trans case.

Do you have creditable knowledge that this is happening? Just curious, I have not heard of any issues in regards to your claim yet  :nixweiss:
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2009, 03:21:33 PM »
Quote from: hogasm on January 20, 2009, 01:28:05 PM
If you are dead set on installing one and not replacing the bushings in your swing arm.....then use one that does not bolt directly to your oil pan. Too much stress on the bolt holes will oblong the holes in your trans case.

I have used a Tru-Trak on 2 bikes with over 20k of hard riding and have not experienced this problem. If the brace is installed properly using the correct torque specifications and thread locker this should not be an issue.
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2009, 03:28:42 PM »
There are several different brands, they all do about the same thing. It's like talking about exhaust! You should just look them over and make a choice based on the one you like best. There's True-track, TWR, Bagger Brace, Ride-STR8, Progressive suspension, and I'm sure there are others.

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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2009, 03:32:44 PM »
Quote from: iradk on January 20, 2009, 01:53:25 PM
comfortablynumb,
ragdocktor AKA Ron @ True Track is great to deal with and offers us a discount when you mention being a member at the time of the order. I just purchased the stabilizer and the Baker Plus One oil pan from Ron, and my dealer is installing them during the 10,000 mi service and  HD "enhancement" program. If you purchase the pan from True Track you not only get the discount, the pan has a boss machined in the pan to attach the stabilizer and eliminate the cage that hogasm is refering to. You also have an extra quart of oil in the engine. All around great deal! Check out the pan at Baker Drivetrain. Good Luck!

Iradk

I did the same, and added the TT TruePivot bonze swingarm bearings/SS pivot shaft setup as well! And yes, mention this site to them upon ordering and they'll apply a discount! ;)

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Re: True Track or
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2009, 04:18:25 PM »
Quote from: sportygordy on January 20, 2009, 02:50:09 PM
Do you have creditable knowledge that this is happening? Just curious, I have not heard of any issues in regards to your claim yet  :nixweiss:

On my bike with Alloy Arts stabilizer. Had to get a new trans case because of it.
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2009, 04:21:18 PM »
I used a ride str8, worked but added vibration..I was ready to take it off but sold the bike...New owner is happy


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Re: True Track or
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2009, 05:24:19 PM »
Quote from: comfortablynumb on January 20, 2009, 12:30:30 PM
When the Numbster (08SEUC3) goes in for the enhancement next month, I want to add a swingarm stabilizer. Is True Track still the way to go? I see Progressive and others now offer similar models? Do we still get group discount from True track? All advice welcome.

  I just spoke with Kay at True Track today 1/20/09.  The company is offering another great group buy to CVO members.  We need a minimum of 10 units ordered.  The unit for the 2009 models is in the works as we speak and availability is expected in March 09.  For all 2008 and older bikes True Track is available now.  Kay has asked we not call to place orders until she posts a CVO order code.
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2009, 05:26:53 PM »
Quote from: hdhog1 on January 20, 2009, 05:24:19 PM
  I just spoke with Kay at True Track today 1/20/09.  The company is offering another great group buy to CVO members.  We need a minimum of 10 units ordered.  The unit for the 2009 models is in the works as we speak and availability is expected in March 09.  For all 2008 and older bikes True Track is available now.  Kay has asked we not call to place orders until she posts a CVO order code.
Once you get the information start a new thread in the "Group Buy" board.

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Re: True Track or
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2009, 08:25:21 PM »
Hi,
This is Ron from True-Track, Inc. - Thank you for your interest. Check the group buy board it should be posted soon.
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2009, 10:52:34 PM »
Quote from: hdfr120 on January 20, 2009, 03:21:33 PM
I have used a Tru-Trak on 2 bikes with over 20k of hard riding and have not experienced this problem. If the brace is installed properly using the correct torque specifications and thread locker this should not be an issue.

I tend to agree with you. If torqued down probably (bolts not loose :P) I don't see the issue with the oblong bolt holes happening. I went out on both my bikes (each about 6K miles on the braces) no problems at all. Cosh darn it,, had to reapply lock tight so they stays tight...  ::)
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2009, 12:13:58 AM »
Quote from: sportygordy on January 20, 2009, 02:50:09 PM
Do you have creditable knowledge that this is happening? Just curious, I have not heard of any issues in regards to your claim yet  :nixweiss:

I have the word of my engine builder.  That is all the "credible knowledge" I need.   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2009, 05:30:09 PM »
Quote from: hogasm on January 20, 2009, 01:28:05 PM
If you are dead set on installing one and not replacing the bushings in your swing arm.....then use one that does not bolt directly to your oil pan. Too much stress on the bolt holes will oblong the holes in your trans case.

If it hasn't happened to Hoist's Cybil then I'm not going to worry about it.   :huepfenjump3:
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 05:42:11 PM »
Quote from: ultrafxr on January 21, 2009, 05:30:09 PM
If it hasn't happened to Hoist's Cybil then I'm not going to worry about it.   :huepfenjump3:

I have no problem at all with my TrueTrack and happen to LOVE their products!!! Now I'm using the link without the cage on the Baker Plus 1 oil pan! :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: True Track or
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 06:52:06 PM »
I did not think that there would be any problem with an oil pan bolted unit......till I had another oil leak and it was comming from the pan. The threads in the trans case were destroyed beyond a heli coil. They needed to be welded up and re tapped.

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Re: True Track or
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2009, 07:21:26 PM »
i am using the True Track and I love it.   No vibration issues at all and it feels like bike is on rails. I won't be without one.
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2009, 06:33:37 PM »
Quote from: hogasm on January 21, 2009, 06:52:06 PM
I did not think that there would be any problem with an oil pan bolted unit......till I had another oil leak and it was comming from the pan. The threads in the trans case were destroyed beyond a heli coil. They needed to be welded up and re tapped.



It sounds like the unit wasn't  installed by following directions given by true-track for torque specs on the pan.  If blue lock tight was not used, which lubes the threads, this would cause the threads to pull out.   Harley factory specs for torgue should be applied to the five bolts removed.  By following these directions the trans case threads can not be destroyed nor can an oil leak occur.
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2009, 06:47:42 PM »
Quote from: hogasm on January 21, 2009, 06:52:06 PM
I did not think that there would be any problem with an oil pan bolted unit......till I had another oil leak and it was comming from the pan. The threads in the trans case were destroyed beyond a heli coil. They needed to be welded up and re tapped.



Brian, is there anything you can't destroy?  You're worse than Howie!
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Re: True Track or
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2009, 07:24:35 PM »
Quote from: Twolanerider on January 26, 2009, 06:47:42 PM
Brian, is there anything you can't destroy?  You're worse than Howie!

Ouch!

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« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2009, 07:34:51 PM »
Quote from: sadunbar on January 26, 2009, 07:24:35 PM
Ouch!

Another one for Neal's list!

At least I didn't ask about keeping the oil in with duct tape :-* .
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Re: True Track or
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Or fine tailoring
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