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Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« on: August 25, 2010, 02:15:54 PM »

I've read a number of different threads on doing the mod that maintains the Passing Lamps when you switch on your highbeams. I also saw a chart someone made up that shows what wires need to be modified.

However, I cannot figure our where exactly to find and access the wires mentioned?? 

Also, I don't want to screw up the garage door opener, and I think I saw a few comments that this mod will disable this?

Can anyone who's done this kindly offer up some tips on getting this done.

Thanks!
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 07:49:53 PM »

Found this some time ago, I've done it on a couple of my bikes with no probs at all and it's very easy.


HEADLIGHT TRICK

Open the left handlebar switchbox, and free the dimmer switch. There are three wires going to it: blue, yellow, and white. Cut the yellow wire about 3/4" from the switch, and tape or heat-shrink this stub. Now, simply splice the yellow wire onto the blue wire, insulate it, and put it all back together. Be careful not to pinch any wires when you tighten up the switchbox screws. Now when you switch to highbeam both high and low beams will stay on giving you better visability and as long your dash spot switch is turned on your passing lamps will also stay on with either low and high beam too.
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 07:52:00 PM »

Also...

One important thing for those who use their garage door opener. This method will cause you to lose the use of your opener. So if you use this method and still want to use your opener you will need to take off your front fairing and reroute the garage door opener lead into one of the dash toggle switches. The easiest method is to reroute into the horn button from the dimmer switch. Just means you will give a short honk every time you open or close the garage door.     
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2010, 08:03:41 PM »

This thread may help I want spots all the time particularly this post - I want spots all the time Reply #62.

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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2010, 12:29:52 AM »

Thanks - I saw those but in reading through the entire thread, I could tell if this effected the garage door opener or not?
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2010, 01:13:04 AM »

Thanks - I saw those but in reading through the entire thread, I could tell if this effected the garage door opener or not?

Nope.
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2010, 11:01:17 AM »

Ok - Then to confirm, I cut the yellow wire in the one loom on the fairing side of the connector. The connector side of the cut yellow wire simply gets sealed, and the fairing side of the cut yellow wire gets connected to blue wire in a loose two wire lead (blue & gray) that should be dangling in there somewhere (not connected to anything?). I'm a little unclear about this two wire lead, but shouldn't be hard to fine I guess, if it's the only blue/gray two wire lead that's not connected to anything.

However, the bottom line is, this method doesn't effect the garage opener, correct?

Thanks alot guys!  I'll hit this when I install my Legend Air Pressure gauge.
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2010, 01:34:18 AM »

Hmm, need a little help here. I gave this a whirl tonight and the spots stay on fine, but the garage door opener doesn't work?

I did find the blue and black which was hanging off the loom going to the headlamp. Cut off the connector, and sealed the black. I put a weatherproof connector on the blue with a 6" mated lead. Found the 16 wire connector which was attached to the support easy enough. I cut the solid yellow wire on the back side of the connector, and sealed the connector side. Then I attached the lead to the yellow wire going away from the connector toward the dash.

Tested it and the spots worked with the highs and lows, but never bothered to check the garage door opener until I had it all buttoned up for a test ride. Dumb!

Any ideas why the garage door opener isn't working? I didn't touch anything else so I'm at a loss??
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2010, 11:10:13 AM »

Well, the saga continues. Pulled the fairing last night, and swapped the blue lead from the fender circuit to the other side of the yellow wire, and nada. Obviously both being on the positive side, there was no short concern, but the spots wouldn't work at all. So I connected it back the other way and the spots again worked indepentantly with the low and high beams. However, the Garage Door Opener won't work.

I thought YOU guys above said this route would NOT effect the Garage Door Opener???

So I did some testing. Not that it should make a difference, but I have the HD HID headlamp. So when checking the leads from the Garage Door Opener, the Yellow goes to the Headlamp socket LB Yellow, the White goes to the Headlamp socket HB White, the Black goes to the headlamp socket Grd Black, and the Orange stripped goes to the loose Orange stripped 12v lead that's right there. When testing this all, the Orange is the constant 12v, and the black is obviously the ground. When the spots are wired correctly, the white and yellow alternate power with the dimmer switch. I guess that cycle is the trick that makes the GDO (Garage Door Opener) work.

After doing the Spot 'mod' with the blue to yellow wire, I checked the headlamp socket, and yellow wire now stays hot all the time under LB and HB. Obviously the blue is feeding constant power two the switches and back to the LB yellow at the socket. The white does cycle. So I figured I'd try swapping the GDO white and yellow leads to the socket. Meaning Yellow to white and white to yellow, hoping that only one of the wires is the trigger. No dice. Seems both wires must alernate power to make this thing work. Damn.

So at that point, I do some more reading on the posts listed above, and saw the remark about using the horn circuit, but I'm not sure how that would work unless it had an alternating flip-flop of the 12v for the white and yellow. Seems strange they would create this thing that has two alternating triggers, instead of just one, which then would work with the horn or something else. I just cannot fathom what other circuit I can use that works in this manner?

At the end, seeing I value the Garage Door Opener more than having the spots with the High Beams, I reluctantly restored everything back to stock. That said, I have to say, in closely reviewing the various previous threads, there is an awful lot of contradictions, in what does and doesn't work. In addition, I found many of the posts obviously got brutalized with the forum change, with deleted comments that could have shed some more light on the matter. One guy says the yellow to blue doesn't effect the GDO, the next guy says it does. Everyone says the left handle bar housing route is not compatible, but the HD-Dude switches under the panel route is another toss up - with no real comment one way or the other. Sure would be nice to get some definitive guidance on this so people don't have to hack everything up with a wink and a prayer, and perhaps delete some of the incomplete and confusing older posts? Did everyone just sacrifice the Garage Door Opener, or what was the trick??
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2010, 11:55:34 AM »

On my 05 SEEG, I had no problem getting the spots w/high beams and garage door opener to work.

On my 2010 SEUC with the spot/cruise multi switch, I tried what I did on the 05 and it wouldn't  work properly so I gave up as I couldn't find anything definitive about the spot/cruise multi switch from what I have read on here.

What year bike do you have and model??
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2010, 01:03:50 PM »

It's a 2006 SEUC. In many of the posts I've found here, not only are many pretty old and goofed up from the forum change with empty posts, but very few reference the Garage Door Opener, which is obviously pretty important to me. If I could just figure out how to make that work by separating it from the headlamp/spot circuit, I'd have a solution, as the Blue to Yellow trick does work for the Spots with the highbeams.  Scratching my head here and seems most of the original guys who blazed this trail don't frequent much anymore.   :(
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2010, 05:04:04 PM »

Kind of guessing at this point, no knowledgable electrical type is going to stop by with some ideas to solve this??
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 12:37:47 PM »

Just wanted to bump this thing. It's been a few months and I'd sure like to get this resolved.

Again, the issue is, none of the wiring tips mentioned to allow the Passing Lamps to remain, will allow the garage door opener to work. That's obviously pretty important to me.

Has any one figured this out yet? Is there a way to rewire the garage door opener to a different circuit, so something.  The Passing Lamp with theBright work fine, just the dead garage door opener that I now have to sort out.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2011, 01:08:07 PM »

This works.  It's also simple.  And it can not effect the door opener if you do it right.
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2011, 03:22:17 PM »

Hey Twolane,

Thanks for the reply. I saw that, but I can't figure out where I would be finding these wires and making the changes at the right locations?  Are there any photos on where that Orange/Red comes out in the inner fairing area? And, I thought that split in the yellow wire goes to the garage door opener first then to the switch?

If anyone has the photos that highlights the locations that goes along with the schematic, that would be very helpful!

Thanks!
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 01:27:21 PM »

Has anyone used this method Twolane posted?  I've seen it posted umpteen times, but nobody responds on where best to find and access these connections in the inner fairing?

Can anyone please help?
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2011, 03:52:42 PM »

Has anyone used this method Twolane posted?  I've seen it posted umpteen times, but nobody responds on where best to find and access these connections in the inner fairing?

Can anyone please help?

The connection 2Lane printed is under the fairing cap where your igntion switch is.  Need to get the power to your driving light switch from the acc switch.

When you do this, you will have power to the passing light switch all the time (instead of just when the low beams are on).
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2011, 04:02:22 PM »

Has anyone used this method Twolane posted?  I've seen it posted umpteen times, but nobody responds on where best to find and access these connections in the inner fairing?

Can anyone please help?

Go to the switches (that 2LR shows in the schematic) in the fairing cap, locate the appropriate wires, then "rearrange" the yellow wire so it is connected to the orange/red wire from the accessory switch.  HTH
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2011, 05:41:23 PM »

Has anyone used this method Twolane posted?  I've seen it posted umpteen times, but nobody responds on where best to find and access these connections in the inner fairing?

Can anyone please help?


I don't get credit for the schematic.  Just reposting it to help.  Think Jim created it initially but not sure.  It is accurate though.  Work under the switches in the fairing cap.
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2011, 06:27:53 PM »

Thanks guys - I see now. I was thinking I had to fish these wires out in the inner fairing and God only knows where in what loom they are. I know there is a trick to pulling the ignition switch, but once that is off, that cover will flip over so you can do this easy enough?  Thanks!
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2011, 07:40:32 PM »

Thanks guys - I see now. I was thinking I had to fish these wires out in the inner fairing and God only knows what in what loom they are. I know there is a trick to pulling the ignition switch, but once that is off, that cover will flip over so you can do this easy enough?  Thanks!

Get the ignition lock off.  You'll then see a nut beneath it.  That nut comes off too.  Then some screws on each side of the fairing cap.  That's it.
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2011, 10:59:30 AM »

Thanks!
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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2011, 06:39:01 PM »

If your nervous about removing the ignition switch:



Plus he shows a handy tool that can be made for pennies.

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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #23 on: January 13, 2011, 12:34:00 PM »

If your nervous about removing the ignition switch:



Plus he shows a handy tool that can be made for pennies.

 ;)
Thanks alot!  I was searching for the ignition switch removal trick and only saw the removal part. I saw that putting it back together was a bear for some.

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Re: Passing Lamps with Brites DIY?
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2017, 11:29:41 PM »

Will this work for a 98 Road King? Does anyone know how much pawer two LED 30W Spot light will draw vs stock sealed beam fuses? Do I need to make any fuse rating updates? 15 amount accessory fuse increased to a 20? I don't know how much more the fuse size needs to be.
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