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cam for 110
« on: November 12, 2010, 12:14:13 AM »

 Hello, my 110 SE springer dynoed 85hp 111tq thinking on cam change to increase performance but keep reliability. talked to bob woods he suggested the tw-555 has anyone installed this cam in a 110 or suggest a good choice. Thanks in advance for any and all help.
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 07:07:29 AM »

Not in a 110"er, but in 107"s.
You'll need to bump the compression to 10.4-6 in order for it to run correctly. :)
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2010, 08:32:38 PM »

Scott, If I'm bumping the compression why wouldn't I go straight to the 400-6 or 408-6? Seems like the extra money is buying the 10.5 pistons anyway?

Am I missing something here?
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2010, 09:55:24 PM »

Review the post knight prowler cams TW-555, these are bobby woods 555 cam. The dyno sheet posted shows the before and after results.  The big difference I notice is in the top end. While riding I much more power at cruising speeds to get around traffic.
I think it is a great cam for every day riding. The more time I spend in the seat the more I like it.   :orange:
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2010, 11:22:32 PM »

 Did you do anything thing extra or just install the 555 cam. talked to my local H-D shop i would be the first in my area no idea how it will respond. they are checking a few options for me :-\
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2010, 10:01:48 AM »


Wood claims the TW555 is a straight bolt-in with no other work required.  Just looking at the specs compared to the stock SE255 would make me think that you will give up some bottom end and pick up some midrange and top end.  Just the sort of thing a lighter bike like the Springer might respond very nicely to, and probably less so with a heavy bagger.  Of course, I am definitely not an expert when it comes to Harley cams so you will be best served listening to those who do this stuff for a living.
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TW-555   Intake 21/41  Duration 242  Lift .555  TDC Lift .189
             Exhaust 43/19  Duration 242  Lift .555  TDC Lift .178

Stock  07 thru 2011 Bolt-in Cams
Ultra High Performance for your 96",103" & 110" Street or Touring bike
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2010, 10:09:45 AM »

I think that is a very good prediction Jerry. Uncharted territory for the most part. I will say this you are not doing yourself any favor with those pipes. The stock headpipes and Cycle Shack slip-ons (and a retune) would get you right now 5hp and a few ft.lbs torque (minimum) and a lot more torque in the riding envelope (roll-on power).
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2010, 11:49:14 AM »

Did you do anything thing extra or just install the 555 cam. talked to my local H-D shop i would be the first in my area no idea how it will respond. they are checking a few options for me :-\

Along with the cam I changed the lifters, chains, bearings, pushrods. Other mods to the bike are thunder max ecm, v & h power duals, Fullsac muffler cores.

I think that is a very good prediction Jerry. Uncharted territory for the most part. I will say this you are not doing yourself any favor with those pipes. The stock headpipes and Cycle Shack slip-ons (and a retune) would get you right now 5hp and a few ft.lbs torque (minimum) and a lot more torque in the riding envelope (roll-on power).

 The "role on power" with these cams is very noticeable and nice even on the bagger.
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2010, 12:23:33 PM »

Interesting comments.  I just acquired a '09 FLTRSE3.  Still bone stock with only 1900 miles on it.  Doing it's first service today.  My existing ride is a '09 FLTR 96" (30K miles) with Woods TW6-6, Fuelmoto exhaust and PCV/Autotune.  That cam has worked out very well for me, particularly since I went Autotune.  The bike is quick and responsive.  I'd like to get a similar performance upgrade with my new ride.  I also have talked to Woods about the 555.  Fuelmoto tells me that they are using the TW-7H in their 110's with good results.  I'm looking forward to any and all comments and advice.  Anyone running Andrews?  I will be riding stock until I sell my other ride.  Thanks from the FNG here.

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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2010, 12:49:54 PM »

When looking at the Woods grinds they all blend \ blur. There is no "best", any of them, as it applys to the 110 but all will work well, the 6-6 555, 7.
The choice I would use is the 555 for the 110. The added duration, albeit small and the lower lift (less valvetrain noise potential) make it a shoe in.
If you are a low end torque junkie the TW5-6 is the best of them INHO.
I will be recomending the 5-6 555 and 8 for most applications.
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2010, 04:45:53 PM »

Interesting comments.  I just acquired a '09 FLTRSE3.  Still bone stock with only 1900 miles on it.  Doing it's first service today.  My existing ride is a '09 FLTR 96" (30K miles) with Woods TW6-6, Fuelmoto exhaust and PCV/Autotune.  That cam has worked out very well for me, particularly since I went Autotune.  The bike is quick and responsive.  I'd like to get a similar performance upgrade with my new ride.  I also have talked to Woods about the 555.  Fuelmoto tells me that they are using the TW-7H in their 110's with good results.  I'm looking forward to any and all comments and advice.  Anyone running Andrews?  I will be riding stock until I sell my other ride.  Thanks from the FNG here.

Craig

Welcome to the site!   :2vrolijk_21:   Glad you have joined us...

I believe Chip ("SBB") has the TW-7H in his 09 SEUC.  You may want to ask his impression of the cam...
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2010, 06:00:58 PM »

 Thanks for the info my ride only has 3k on it so i want to do it right,woods also recommended the 555 over the 7h, i will keep watching while deciding.  thanks to all
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2010, 11:51:50 AM »

Thanks for all the suggestions and comments.  Once I see if my FLTR sells as is, or back to stock, I can make some final decisions.  Keith at Fuelmoto suggested that my exhaust, PCV, Autotune and TW6-6 (he likes the 7)  would transfer to the 110 in good order, though I will probably take a good look at cams.  The 6 seems a bit noisy, but not too bad.  I am leaning toward the 555 as it is Wood's latest iteration.  How about air cleaners?  What has been the collective experience in this area?
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2010, 12:02:33 PM »

Many air cleaners work well. A few do not. The Ventilator HD sorry to say has not worked as well as I thought it would. Zippers and Wood performance both have good units and the SE heavy breather seems to be fine but you have to like the look. The stock motor is not going to be that demanding. When the motor gets larger with airflow enhancements is when the AF will become a critical path constraint.
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Re: cam for 110
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2010, 07:58:12 PM »

Welcome to the site!   :2vrolijk_21:   Glad you have joined us...

I believe Chip ("SBB") has the TW-7H in his 09 SEUC.  You may want to ask his impression of the cam...


I have had the TW7H in my 09 SEUC for the past 26K miles.
It made a great seat of the pants difference in how my bike ran.
There are so many people with so many conflicting responses that I'm glad mine is done.
Some days I read the TW7H is the greatest, some days I read it's a dog. And that's with the same person reporting the so called facts.
 
Attached is my dyno sheet,  (See next post for my dyno sheet, thank's Naitram) remember this cam is on a bagger not the lighter springer.
Hope this helps.
 
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