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Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« on: October 23, 2012, 01:31:42 PM »
I would like to have some opinion about the Tmans SM600 cam in a CVO 110 touring bike with a 9.9 compression vs all the others cams like the Andrew 54, woods 555, 777, 7H, CR575.                                                                                                                                                          
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2012, 07:57:34 PM »
I'm installing the Tman SM600 cams in my stock 2012 SG. Just waiting the heads to return from Tman. If you are interested in how they perform in it, I can post some info?
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 08:03:06 PM »
No experience with them in a 110 but in the 103 with OEM heads they work OK as a bolt in but others (other Tman cams) work better with ported heads. It's the 600 lift that has guys expecting more. Let's see what they do in the 110.
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2012, 10:02:46 AM »
I already have the SM600 cam in a 110 with Tman stage 2 CVO headwork milled to give me 9.9 comp. I was really wanting to find out if there was a Better cam for my setup or just leave it lone not spend any more on bike. I'll post dyno sheet a pretty good TQ line. sm600 cam, stage 2 headwork, true 9.9 comp, V&H power duals with fulsac 2.25 cores. The final pull was in 4th gear I keep hearing that the numbers would be a little higher if it would have been done in 5th or 6th gear.
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2012, 08:57:20 AM »
A head mill and a tman 625, 10.3:1
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 11:27:59 AM »
Quote from: Deweysheads on November 16, 2012, 08:57:20 AM
A head mill and a tman 625, 10.3:1

 :2vrolijk_21:, Yep! I have a build in process now......
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 02:03:41 PM »
FYI the 660sm hasn't been a real big hit for me either. The ends doesn't justify the means. If I recommend 660 lift and prep everything for that then why not get the duration up to make it all play out. So that has been instead the 662-1 or -2 depending on the motor size,heads, and the intended use/hp goals.
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2012, 09:00:21 PM »
I went with the 660SM and have been happy with the results.  Here' the dyne from the final tune.
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2012, 10:27:45 AM »
That looks real good an does reopen my mind to that grind in a 110 with worked heads. My comments were in the context of 103 builds I have been involved with; OEM ported heads which have less airflow potential and piston flow demand. When using ported heads, SE 10.5 pistons, and even the SE259 I have had equal results with a 110 and the cost for the heads is lower than preparing them for .660 lift.
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2012, 11:37:52 AM »
Quote from: Smitty2u on November 21, 2012, 09:00:21 PM
I went with the 660SM and have been happy with the results.  Here' the dyne from the final tune.

Is that in a 110? Your sig line shows a 4 5/8 stroke and a 4.060 bore...120"
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2012, 11:47:25 AM »
That's correct.  It is a 120.
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2012, 12:03:32 PM »
That changes things doesn't it.
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2012, 11:10:03 PM »
Quote from: Deweysheads on November 22, 2012, 12:03:32 PM
That changes things doesn't it.

Yes, just a bit... ::)
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2012, 07:25:05 AM »
Are you stuck on T Man? There are a few others that have shown good results in the 110.
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Re: Would like to have some opinions about the Tman SM600 cam in a SESG
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2012, 02:01:04 PM »
Jim (hd-dude) installed the 120R using the TMan TR 625 cams, 58 mm TB, 5.3 injectors, ventilator air cleaner. Exhaust, header Ful Sac C X Pipe, SE HD muffler and Ful Sac 2.0" cores.

Picke up bike in Jim's shop in Oakland and drove it over to Phoenix. Bike ran great, no problems.

See attached Dyno.

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