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I do see that the TH X series is a straight 2" primary where Dragos and D&D, etc all have stepped headers. Maybe I'll just have to say F it and put a 117 on it now! 

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I do see that the TH X series is a straight 2" primary where Dragos and D&D, etc all have stepped headers. Maybe I'll just have to say F it and put a 117 on it now! 

I wouldn't necessarily recommend building a motor to suit a pipe.  More sense to install a pipe to suit the motor.  If your not sure you have the right pipe for your build, there's always the "selling" board.  Or ebay...   

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I wouldn't necessarily recommend building a motor to suit a pipe.  More sense to install a pipe to suit the motor.  If your not sure you have the right pipe for your build, there's always the "selling" board.  Or ebay...  

This probably sounds ignorant but I love all things Thunderheader and I love the looks of this X series. Yes it's retarded (an expression, not being insensitive here) to build an engine around the exhaust but I already have the exhaust and about 2k to spend. I'm going to do the 110 build and hope for the best. Dropping it off Friday and will post results and honest feedback to follow...

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Well things have changed. The same guy with the 110 kit also has a brand new take out 2013 103" with 0 miles and se 255 cams already. If I sell my 07 96" (13k miles) for around $1,500 (quick sale), I should end up with a nice little 103 for just a few bucks more than doing the 110. I'm feeling a lot better about going this route than taking a risk on the 110. Thanks for the 4 pages of replies, comments and advice...

[timo482]

well that should be a fabulous deal

make sure you get the engine title numbers straight at your dmv to avoid future hassles

as time goes on whole engine swaps get cheaper than fixing. i deal with a fair number of ford pickup diesels & when its all said and done the complete pre run engine is either the same or cheaper than rebuilding, long block, or short block. and the issues with future reliability and warranty is much better with the complete engine... *sigh* i liked doing the work but it doesn't pay.....

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Well things have changed. The same guy with the 110 kit also has a brand new take out 2013 103" with 0 miles and se 255 cams already. If I sell my 07 96" (13k miles) for around $1,500 (quick sale), I should end up with a nice little 103 for just a few bucks more than doing the 110. I'm feeling a lot better about going this route than taking a risk on the 110. Thanks for the 4 pages of replies, comments and advice...

Sonds like a very solid plan.
Is this 103 out of a CVO Model or is it from a Basic Model?

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Well things have changed. The same guy with the 110 kit also has a brand new take out 2013 103" with 0 miles and se 255 cams already. If I sell my 07 96" (13k miles) for around $1,500 (quick sale), I should end up with a nice little 103 for just a few bucks more than doing the 110. I'm feeling a lot better about going this route than taking a risk on the 110. Thanks for the 4 pages of replies, comments and advice...

Going to run the Thunderheader X series pipe on the 103 motor?

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Going to run the Thunderheader X series pipe on the 103 motor?

At this point, yes. It actually runs really good on the stock 96 so I'll give it a whirl on the cammed 103 and go from there I guess...

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Sonds like a very solid plan.
Is this 103 out of a CVO Model or is it from a Basic Model?

Well it is a 2013 103 with SE 255 cams and gloss black cam and rocker box covers. I was told it came out right at the dealership and has 0 miles. I would assume its a CVO 103 but I'm not 100% positive. Other than 255 cams, what else would be different on the CVO 103?

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well that should be a fabulous deal

make sure you get the engine title numbers straight at your dmv to avoid future hassles

as time goes on whole engine swaps get cheaper than fixing. i deal with a fair number of ford pickup diesels & when its all said and done the complete pre run engine is either the same or cheaper than rebuilding, long block, or short block. and the issues with future reliability and warranty is much better with the complete engine... *sigh* i liked doing the work but it doesn't pay.....

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Yes, I couldn't get cams, air cleaner and tuning done for under 2k so the 110 build seemed like a great value but I chickened out at the last min. So,,, less than 4k for a 2013 cvo 103 with 0 miles, installed, tuned and ready to ride plus I can probably sell my low mile 96" for around $1,500, puts me at around $2,500 net into it when its all said and done. Good point about the engine numbers, I didn't even think about that aspect...

[Fired00d]

Well it is a 2013 103 with SE 255 cams and gloss black cam and rocker box covers. I was told it came out right at the dealership and has 0 miles. I would assume its a CVO 103 but I'm not 100% positive. Other than 255 cams, what else would be different on the CVO 103?

That is not a "CVO" 103... in 2013 CVO's came w/110 motors.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

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The last CVO103 was installed at the factory in the 2006 model year, so obviously it's not a CVO103.  And yes, there is a big difference between a CVO103 and the late model 103.  A late model factory 103 is just a big bore version of the TC96, like a TC95 was a big bore version of a TC88.  Larger pistons and oversized bores.

Jerry

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The last CVO103 was installed at the factory in the 2006 model year, so obviously it's not a CVO103.  And yes, there is a big difference between a CVO103 and the late model 103.  A late model factory 103 is just a big bore version of the TC96, like a TC95 was a big bore version of a TC88.  Larger pistons and oversized bores.

Jerry

Which is why I asked the OP about the Motor.

Just a guess here based on what HD wants for a remanufactured TC 102. I would say $4K +/- for a new 103
Harley sells the SE Twin Cam 103A for $4,995

This would certainly make a difference in what should be paid for the motor they are offering  the OP.

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That is not a "CVO" 103... in 2013 CVO's came w/110 motors.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

I wonder if the owner had dealer installed 255 cams then changed his mind and opted for the 124 S&S? Otherwise how else would a 2013 103 have 255 cams with 0 miles I guess?  

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I wonder if the owner had dealer installed 255 cams then changed his mind and opted for the 124 S&S? Otherwise how else would a 2013 103 have 255 cams with 0 miles I guess?  

IMHO Everyone here is pulling for you to end up with a Very Positive result that Puts A Big Smile on Your Face.

Maybe a few more questions on the deal would be in order?