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[grc]

Are you saying the newer style that went in 2013 don't seem to be very good?

He was talking about the "C" lifters (C for cheap crap).  I don't think there has been enough time and miles yet to pass judgement  on the new SE lifters in the 2013 CVO's.

Jerry

[Rooster]

The B's always seemed to be good.
But the new, "more-dough-for-the-H-D-share-holder, Mexican lifters" don't seem to be.....
Scott

I asked because I have the B lifters in my Jim's 131. I had them the first time around and then when the motor was rebuilt I ran the Jim's lifters during break in then changed to the B lifters and can tell you the Jim's lifters are a noisy. I have about 12k on the B's and was thinking bout changing to S&S next time. The 131 has a lot of valve train noise by itself luckily my modular helmet drowns most of it out. Had the same level of noise the first time around so figured it must be normal.

[dlaws01]

X2.
And we load them w/o limiters to .140-.150".
Scott

Scott,  If you load them to .140" - .150" then why would it really matter if you used the lifters with the limiters and just load them mid way?   

[quicked]

ss lifters=no problems

[Boatman]

I ordered the S&S premium lifters without limiters last night from Eastern Performance.

[cmashark]

I've used Woods lifters on my last builds.  I set the 32 tpi pushrods to 21 flats. Nice and quiet.  Now the stock lifters and pushrods on the 255 cams were very noisy.

[Indenial]

Can anyone comment on the HQ Black Ops lifters?  I was thinking of putting these in this winter, as I have 20K miles on whatever the Harley dealer put in after my engine neede rebuilding due to a failed lifter at 30K.

[Boatman]

Can anyone comment on the HQ Black Ops lifters?  I was thinking of putting these in this winter, as I have 20K miles on whatever the Harley dealer put in after my engine neede rebuilding due to a failed lifter at 30K.

Talk to Ken (NorthGeorgiaHawg) as he uses them and likes them.

[32Lager]

Check with M and M Cycles. They're highly recommended on the HD forums and they have the best prices I've found. I talked to him the other day about the differences between High Performance S&S lifters without adjustable pushrods vs. the limiter travel kit (HL2T) and adjustable pushrods. He took the time to personally answer my questions and seems very knowledgable about the products he sells.

http://mandmcycles.com/detail.aspx?Category1=Harley&Mfg=S%26S&Category2=Engine&Category3=Lifters&ProductNo=MM003614

[evodistraction]

It was suggested by the dealer that lifters should be replaced every 7500 miles when running any performance cams. I have T Man 625's and stock 2012 HD lifters with about 5k miles on the engine. The cams have only been installed for 500 or so miles. I'm interested to hear from the members regarding your expieriences and recommendations. Is the dealer in CYA mode?


Thanks as always,

Evo

[JKM]

unfortunately the dealer is probably right if you using the stock lifters, but that's because stock lifters are crap.  S&S lifters would be one of the better replacements available and will last much longer than stock HD lifters.

[evodistraction]

unfortunately the dealer is probably right if you using the stock lifters, but that's because stock lifters are crap.  S&S lifters would be one of the better replacements available and will last much longer than stock HD lifters.

Thanks. On a scale of 1 - 10 with 1 being no mechanical skill at all and 10 being a professional builder, where does removal/installation of a set of lifters rank? BTW I'd say I'm a 3-4.

Evo

[sadunbar]

It was suggested by the dealer that lifters should be replaced every 7500 miles when running any performance cams. I have T Man 625's and stock 2012 HD lifters with about 5k miles on the engine. The cams have only been installed for 500 or so miles. I'm interested to hear from the members regarding your expieriences and recommendations. Is the dealer in CYA mode?


Thanks as always,

Evo

It's not often I say this, but in this case, your dealer is giving you good advice!   

[sadunbar]

Thanks. On a scale of 1 - 10 with 1 being no mechanical skill at all and 10 being a professional builder, where does removal/installation of a set of lifters rank? BTW I'd say I'm a 3-4.

Evo

Moderate mechanical skill and a service manual should get lifters replaced with no issues...   

[ldireprophil]

Can anyone comment on the HQ Black Ops lifters?  I was thinking of putting these in this winter, as I have 20K miles on whatever the Harley dealer put in after my engine neede rebuilding due to a failed lifter at 30K.

I have the HQ Black Ops.  So far so good, a lot of shops recommend them.  I installed mine back in the summer.