Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  
Pages: [1] 2 3  All

Author Topic: US Modell - German Modell  (Read 6545 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

d o g o l s

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2315
  • *** ride save and have fun***

    • CVO1: blue Thunder FLHTCUSE-4
    • CVO2: FLHTCUSE-2 black-orange-Jester
    • CVO3: 2008 FXDB black
    • Harley Fan
US Modell - German Modell
« on: November 28, 2006, 04:12:24 PM »

whats the different

i change the exaust and the Airfilter Backplate from german to US

must i change software and where i get that
Logged

Unbalanced

  • FUD Examiner
  • 5k CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6708

    • CVO1: 2011 SESG,
    • CVO2: 2004 SEEG Pumpkin,
    • CVO3: 2002 Police Roadking, Maudie and Maybelle Slayer
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2006, 05:16:06 PM »

Dogols,

There are no per se downloads for you.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2006, 05:17:35 PM by Unbalanced »
Logged
HBRR Florida Chapter,  STILL - The Fastest Chapter - Proven yet again Bikeweek 2017

DCFIREMANN

  • 2.5K CVO Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4812
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2006, 07:47:35 PM »

Quote
Dogols,

There are no per se downloads for you.
Logged
cvo 1  04 FLHTCSEI  Qrange/Black AKA Ole Punkin
cvo 2 05 VRSCXe Orange/Black sold
cvo 3 02 FXDWG2 Black/Gold 
cvo 4 04 FLHTCSE Blue/Black  sold
cvo 5 09 FLHTCUSE4 Red/Marron sold
cvo 6 12 FLHTCUSE Blue Saphire/Stardust Silver AKA Saphire
cvo 7 14 FLHTKSE  Blaze/Maroon
2020 CVO Limited

PROUD MEMBER EBCM #1.75 Second in command of this great organization

Also has been placed on
TRIPLE SECRET PROBATION

Unbalanced

  • FUD Examiner
  • 5k CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6708

    • CVO1: 2011 SESG,
    • CVO2: 2004 SEEG Pumpkin,
    • CVO3: 2002 Police Roadking, Maudie and Maybelle Slayer
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2006, 11:34:29 PM »

Dawg,

Electrical System and more ----> elektrisches System und mehr

Logged
HBRR Florida Chapter,  STILL - The Fastest Chapter - Proven yet again Bikeweek 2017

DCFIREMANN

  • 2.5K CVO Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4812
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2006, 06:09:36 AM »

Quote
Dawg,

Electrical System and more ---->[highlight] elektrisches System und mehr[/highlight]

Harry I need the CD learning Greman the easy way!!!!!

Thanks

Be Safe

THE DAWG
Logged
cvo 1  04 FLHTCSEI  Qrange/Black AKA Ole Punkin
cvo 2 05 VRSCXe Orange/Black sold
cvo 3 02 FXDWG2 Black/Gold 
cvo 4 04 FLHTCSE Blue/Black  sold
cvo 5 09 FLHTCUSE4 Red/Marron sold
cvo 6 12 FLHTCUSE Blue Saphire/Stardust Silver AKA Saphire
cvo 7 14 FLHTKSE  Blaze/Maroon
2020 CVO Limited

PROUD MEMBER EBCM #1.75 Second in command of this great organization

Also has been placed on
TRIPLE SECRET PROBATION

d o g o l s

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2315
  • *** ride save and have fun***

    • CVO1: blue Thunder FLHTCUSE-4
    • CVO2: FLHTCUSE-2 black-orange-Jester
    • CVO3: 2008 FXDB black
    • Harley Fan
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2006, 06:31:52 AM »

tanks for answer
Logged

bisounours

  • 5k CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7334
  • First miles the 6th February 2008

Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2006, 09:08:37 AM »

Quote
whats the different

i change the exaust and the Airfilter Backplate from german to US

must i change software and where i get that

Hello Dogols, :)

You have some explanations on this topic : http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1162031943
concerning the differences between Us and european models.
You have received one of the first Jester in Europe, nice ! [smiley=drink.gif]
But nobody (in Europe) is really experimented for the upgrade on the CVO 2007.
We know that it's necessary to change the stock A/C for a big sucker or other, to change the exhausts SE , V&H or Rinehart but what is the Map ? :-/

Only the dealer is able to define the right MAP. However, with what I read here, it's probably the #84 ( look this topic : http://flhrsei.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?num=1163938961 )
Other point, I know not who is able to adjust this MAP on a Dyno.
Probably, we must have this MAP without modifications or to use an other system (PCIII, Zipper, ....). [smiley=confused5.gif]
I'll receive my Jester in April 2007 and I bought a true duals and Oval slip-ons V&H. I look for an Arlen Ness Big Sucker A/C.

If you have more informations your research, please, inform me. ;)

Best regards
Jacques




Logged
********2007 FLHTCUSE2 Red/Black**********
  SE RYO A/C and KN filter, V&H dressers duals and
          oval, TM/AT map#364, SE 251 cams.
     2008 FLHTCUSE3, White Frost and Silver Mist
              (Casper) -> 6th February 2008
             SE 251 cams/Torrington bearings,
      SE pushrods, SE High compression pistons,
             A/C Big sucker, V&H dresser duals ,
             Fullsac baffles, SE Pro Super Tuner.
2011 FLHXSE2, Stage1

grc

  • 10K CVO Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14216
  • AKA Grouchy Old Fart
    • IN


    • CVO1: 2005 SEEG2
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2006, 10:05:56 PM »

Quote
Dogols,

There are no per se downloads for you.
Logged
Jerry - 2005 Cherry SEEG  -  Member # 1155

H-D and me  -  a classic love / hate relationship.  Current score:  love 40, hate 50, bewildered 10.

grc

  • 10K CVO Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14216
  • AKA Grouchy Old Fart
    • IN


    • CVO1: 2005 SEEG2
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2006, 10:06:20 PM »

2
Logged
Jerry - 2005 Cherry SEEG  -  Member # 1155

H-D and me  -  a classic love / hate relationship.  Current score:  love 40, hate 50, bewildered 10.

bisounours

  • 5k CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7334
  • First miles the 6th February 2008

Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2006, 03:14:20 AM »

Quote
I believe one of the differences is the "Active Intake and Exhaust" - not sure what is required to eliminate them as far as wiring, ECM, etc. is concerned.

Jerry

It's the question. How to modify (to dismount for replace by true duals and big sucker back plate for example) the active intake and exhaust ?

If we look the active exhaust, we have a valve in the exhaust that it's moved by a cable. We have not electrical signal go back to the ECM from the valve. Perhaps we have an information from the electrical motor for the cable but not sure. I think that it's possible to disconnect the cable from the valve for to dismount the valve or to change the exhaust.
Concerning the active intake, it's different because the electrical motor is directly on the flap in the air cleaner. I'm not sur that it send back an information to the ECM.
The certitude is the ECM send the orders to the electrical motors for the right position.

What is the opinion of the specialits ?

Thanks for your answers.
Jacques
Logged
********2007 FLHTCUSE2 Red/Black**********
  SE RYO A/C and KN filter, V&H dressers duals and
          oval, TM/AT map#364, SE 251 cams.
     2008 FLHTCUSE3, White Frost and Silver Mist
              (Casper) -> 6th February 2008
             SE 251 cams/Torrington bearings,
      SE pushrods, SE High compression pistons,
             A/C Big sucker, V&H dresser duals ,
             Fullsac baffles, SE Pro Super Tuner.
2011 FLHXSE2, Stage1

d o g o l s

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2315
  • *** ride save and have fun***

    • CVO1: blue Thunder FLHTCUSE-4
    • CVO2: FLHTCUSE-2 black-orange-Jester
    • CVO3: 2008 FXDB black
    • Harley Fan
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2006, 10:15:52 AM »

thanks for all information
Logged

arcticdude

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1544
  • FLHRSEI.ORG
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2006, 01:15:06 PM »

Jacques,
Since there is not an exhaust valve sensor other than the cable motor itself, than don't worry about the ecm input there.  As long as you leave the motor intact and attached electrically, the ecm won't know any different if you have true duals.  You just don't have the cable and the valve in the exhaust.  As long as you stay with parts that maps have already been designed for, you should be able to do fine!  I'm not sure yet about the intake solenoid.  I'll have to study the wiring manual some.  If it's only a 2 wire connection to the solenoid, you may be able to simply disconnect it, as it probably opens only under predetermined conditions that the ecm sees from other sensors and it's potentially either open or closed with no in between.  If it's a 3 wire connection, than it may be a sensor itself and thus should throw a code if disconnected. The question then is will the system operate properly even though that code has been caused????  Don't know yet.

arcticdude
Logged
don't waste your time with a usa-spec ipod adapter- chitty products with chitty support

d o g o l s

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2315
  • *** ride save and have fun***

    • CVO1: blue Thunder FLHTCUSE-4
    • CVO2: FLHTCUSE-2 black-orange-Jester
    • CVO3: 2008 FXDB black
    • Harley Fan
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2006, 03:31:00 PM »

 on pic you only see a 2 wire connection to the solenoid
Logged

bisounours

  • 5k CVO Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 7334
  • First miles the 6th February 2008

Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2006, 04:17:18 AM »

Thanks for your opinion, Arctitude,  :)

Concerning the exhaust, I put a true dual and the electrical motor and his wiring stay on the bike and it's ride, I think. :-?
I agree  with Dogols, we have only two wiring on the solenoid. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
 It's means that we have only a simple connection without return to the ECM. It must be possible to disconnect the connection and to change the backplate without consequence. :-/
Sure with a true dual and exhausts (same Oval slip-ons) and a big sucker, we need to change the MAP.
Information : The active system operate till 3500 rpm for the noise and the emission regulation.
Between 0 to 3500 rpm, the opening is progressive and depends of the throttle.
More 3500 rpm, it's all opened and we have a similar HD sound ???? (say the dealers..) :-?

Best regards
Jacques
Logged
********2007 FLHTCUSE2 Red/Black**********
  SE RYO A/C and KN filter, V&H dressers duals and
          oval, TM/AT map#364, SE 251 cams.
     2008 FLHTCUSE3, White Frost and Silver Mist
              (Casper) -> 6th February 2008
             SE 251 cams/Torrington bearings,
      SE pushrods, SE High compression pistons,
             A/C Big sucker, V&H dresser duals ,
             Fullsac baffles, SE Pro Super Tuner.
2011 FLHXSE2, Stage1

d o g o l s

  • 1K CVO Member
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2315
  • *** ride save and have fun***

    • CVO1: blue Thunder FLHTCUSE-4
    • CVO2: FLHTCUSE-2 black-orange-Jester
    • CVO3: 2008 FXDB black
    • Harley Fan
Re: US Modell - German Modell
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2006, 06:14:27 AM »

[highlight]Dealer told me the operation system wold work between 50 and 80 kmh il thing at works maybe with a signal from the spedo[/highlight]

« Last Edit: December 02, 2006, 06:14:57 AM by dogols »
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3  All
 

Page created in 0.182 seconds with 21 queries.