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CVO Technical => Wheels/Tires/Suspension/Brakes => Topic started by: xsdbs on August 12, 2013, 03:51:39 PM
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Question for the 2012 CVO Street Glide owners...
What are you getting for mileage out of your front(130/60B19 61H) and rear(180/55B18 80H) tires?
It seems to me that maybe the (newer)Dunlops don't last as long?
I have 19K on the front, and 9K on the (second)rear, I replaced the first rear at 10K.
When I asked the Dunlop reps the same question at Sturgis, they asked "how many miles do you have on them now?"
when I told them, their eyes got REALLY big, and they said "You're doing pretty good..."
On a side note, I talked to several other tire vendors, and they gave me the same story of "not enough demand for that tire size for us to offer one".
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On my 2011 CVO SG I got around 15K on the rear (maybe a little more) and just changed the front at 21k.
We ride 2up and together we weigh 275 lbs total.
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I'm at 10K on front and back and have plenty of tire left. Unfortunately, I hate these tires :-\. I'm hoping Michelin starts making my size when I'm ready for new shoes. :P
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19,578 km on both...and lots left....and I've been havin' fun "breaking free" with some launches.
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I'm at 10K on front and back and have plenty of tire left. Unfortunately, I hate these tires :-\. I'm hoping Michelin starts making my size when I'm ready for new shoes. :P
What is it that you don't like about the Dunlops? I haven't found them to be bad at all. :nixweiss:
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13k miles out of my rear and front is still good with 15k on it now. I have been happy with the Dunplops and I am normally a huge Michelin fan.
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Not trying to hijack this thread but be sure to check those fronts real good. Another thread on here turned me on to a problem I didn't know about. Cracking at the bead. 9000 miles on mine and sure enough, cracks in the side wall down in next to the bead , can be hard to see. I check mine regularly but never saw them. And I thought I was doing pretty good, lots of tread left. Other than this issue I don't mind the tires.
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I got 17500 out of the rear on my 12 CVO road glide, which was lower than I got out of the rears on my 09 CVO Road Glide, same rear tire.
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I tend to wonder just how many people are changing the rears prematurely, thus accounting for the wide range in reported mileage. Determining actual wear is not as obvious with the tires that don't have a center tread groove.
Anyhow, the entire idea behind the MT (Multi-Tread) rear tires is to increase mileage by using a harder compound in the center of the tread and a softer compound on the sides for better cornering grip. From what I've seen, it seems to work when compared to the previous tires (D402). Unfortunately for many, the technology also seems to have led to premature abnormal wear at the boundaries of the two compounds. Some tires have been changed out at very low mileage due to the cupping, not because the center tread was actually worn out. BTW, the same thing has been reported on other brands of bikes that had the Dunlop MT technology before Harley. I don't know if Dunlop has ever acknowledged this or corrected it.
Jerry
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What is it that you don't like about the Dunlops? I haven't found them to be bad at all. :nixweiss:
Slippery on wet roads! Multiple flats. They pick up road debris like a dog picks up fleas. :laugh: :zroflmao: :lipsrsealed2:
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I love my Dunlops... 8)
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ran dunlops sice mid 70's. but the new michelin is getting great mileage, handles good. friend ( who rides hard on take off) never got over 10k on rear. put michelin commander on & has 16500 & still has 4/32 tread in the middle. now has mich on front
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Had 13,500 on the rear when I changed it prior to our trip out West. Still had a good couple thousand miles (at least) left but the rear does quite a bit of the work....don't mind changing it when I "feel" it needs it, tread left or not. Still, I was impressed with the wear on the rear.
Front is still going strong at 17,800 with still plenty of tread left. I have checked the beading area and no cracks on mine (and I took a good, long look prior to and after the trip).
Personally, I don't have any problems with the Dunlops. Seem to work well, last a good, long time and no issues yet in the rain. Of course, I'm not scraping the mufflers/pegs with it, either... ;D
However, Vickie's Superlow came with Michelins. I like dem, too. Wouldn't be against the idea of swapping to the pillsbury brand if they ever come out with our size for the SESG... :2vrolijk_21:
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My buddy has a 13 ultra with 16.000 miles back tire cupped bad went to have it tuned and the dealer would not dyno the bike .... so the dealer replaced both tires said they were dryrotting :o :o :o
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Personally, I don't have any problems with the Dunlops. Seem to work well, last a good, long time and no issues yet in the rain. Of course, I'm not scraping the mufflers/pegs with it, either... ;D
Until my 09 SERG First tire change on every harley I ever owned was to Metzler as I hated the factory Dunlop's, sucked in the rain, poor wear, followed ever grove in the pavement and so on. Hated the Dunlop's so much I was researching tires for the 09 SERG before I ever took delivery of the bike. Well after riding the new Dunlop's that came on the 09 SERG for 21000 miles before the rear needed replacing, I decided they were much better than the other Dunlop's. They did not follow ever groove, had good wear, held in the corners even if a floor board touched, and were pretty good in the rain.
So I have been riding them my last three bikes
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Not trying to hijack this thread but be sure to check those fronts real good. Another thread on here turned me on to a problem I didn't know about. Cracking at the bead. 9000 miles on mine and sure enough, cracks in the side wall down in next to the bead , can be hard to see. I check mine regularly but never saw them. And I thought I was doing pretty good, lots of tread left. Other than this issue I don't mind the tires.
just noticed same thing on mine 5000 miles
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I have 17k on the front. Still looks pretty good... I replaced the rear at 13k. Living in fl,, we really wear the center of tire out only, most of our riding is going straight. I really like these tires as well.
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The Dunlop rears will cup! I replaced my rear at about 11K because of the cupping. I am still on my front tire with plenty of tread at 16.5K.
Maybe it's just me, but I have grown a little skittish of throwing down too hard in the twisties because of my perception that our smallish 19" front tire does not grab as well as the much fatter 16" and 18" front tires on the Ultras. Anyone else feel that way... or am I just being a wuss?
I'd like to try something else... but to my knowledge, no one but Dunlop even makes a 130/60B19 front tire to fit our Agitators...
Ken
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I have a 2011 and have 24500 km on Dunlop original front and rear. I am going to change them out right away but all my buddies have had a look and can't believe how much tread there is. One thing though they are very noisy in the turns.
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My stock tires have about 9000 on them..they look ok, but the rear is noisy when you lean into turns.....may replace it just for that since it is making me crazy.
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The Dunlop rears will cup! I replaced my rear at about 11K because of the cupping. I am still on my front tire with plenty of tread at 16.5K.
Maybe it's just me, but I have grown a little skittish of throwing down too hard in the twisties because of my perception that our smallish 19" front tire does not grab as well as the much fatter 16" and 18" front tires on the Ultras. Anyone else feel that way... or am I just being a wuss?
I'd like to try something else... but to my knowledge, no one but Dunlop even makes a 130/60B19 front tire to fit our Agitators...
Ken
Pushing 13k on original rear tire and the 19" has never given me any issues with twisties...
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Maybe it's just me, but I have grown a little skittish of throwing down too hard in the twisties because of my perception that our smallish 19" front tire does not grab as well as the much fatter 16" and 18" front tires on the Ultras. Anyone else feel that way... or am I just being a wuss?
As Harley has increased the Street Glide's front rim size (16 -> 17 -> 18 -> 19), I also feel that the handling has "changed".
Like you said, the "smaller" tire doesn't seem to corner as well, there's less "rubber meets the road".
Ruts, wallows, tar strips, grooves, and other road imperfections seem to be "worse" with a 19 front tire.
The 19 front seems to "track" into grooves on concrete roads, where the older 16 front didn't.
At least the 19 front looks cool...
I'm scheduled to replace both front and rear tires tomorrow (19.5k on the original front, 10k on the second rear)
I suspect the vibration I'm getting through the grips and floorboards are due to the cupping on the front tire.
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I'd like to try something else... but to my knowledge, no one but Dunlop even makes a 130/60B19 front tire to fit our Agitators...
At Sturgis this year, I talked to the Metzler vendor, and asked why they didn't offer tires to fit the 2012 Street Glides.
I was told that there wasn't enough demand/volume to justify it.
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As Harley has increased the Street Glide's front rim size (16 -> 17 -> 18 -> 19), I also feel that the handling has "changed".
Like you said, the "smaller" tire doesn't seem to corner as well, there's less "rubber meets the road".
Ruts, wallows, tar strips, grooves, and other road imperfections seem to be "worse" with a 19 front tire.
The 19 front seems to "track" into grooves on concrete roads, where the older 16 front didn't.
At least the 19 front looks cool...
I'm scheduled to replace both front and rear tires tomorrow (19.5k on the original front, 10k on the second rear)
I suspect the vibration I'm getting through the grips and floorboards are due to the cupping on the front tire.
Yes! That's exactly my experience. This bike is usually rock solid, but that front tire hates tar snakes with a passion! I have experienced "dancing" when running over the many roads with tar snakes on them that we have in the mountains. Whenever I see tar snakes on curves, I get major "pucker factor".
As I said, it's never slipped in the twisties, but it does seem to be much more sensitive to road imperfections than the fatter tires on smaller rims.
But the 19" Agitator up front does look cool...
Ken
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Yes! That's exactly my experience. This bike is usually rock solid, but that front tire hates tar snakes with a passion! I have experienced "dancing" when running over the many roads with tar snakes on them that we have in the mountains. Whenever I see tar snakes on curves, I get major "pucker factor".
As I said, it's never slipped in the twisties, but it does seem to be much more sensitive to road imperfections than the fatter tires on smaller rims.
But the 19" Agitator up front does look cool...
Ken
I never rode a bike with a 16 but my 09 had the 17 up front. I don't remember it grabbing the tar snakes and grooves like you mention. I agree Ken, the 19 grabs a lot but looks great and I think it handles well but crappy roads are less to be desired.
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My rear tire is starting to 'howl' when cornering...at 22,000 km.
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My rear tire is starting to 'howl' when cornering...at 22,000 km.
Yeah. They start to howl when they get cupped. My rear tire was howling at only 11K miles... about where you are now...
Ken