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Custom Vehicle Discussions => Screamin’ Eagle® Ultra Classic® Electra Glide® => Topic started by: gabhart on August 13, 2011, 12:22:12 AM
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I am devastated! After trading in my 2005 Fatboy and 2007 Ultra Classic to purchase a 2011.5 SEUC AND still recovering from back surgery my wife tells me this evening after a very short ride that she enjoyed the 2007 Ultra Classic better! She said the new SEUC is much rougher from the road feel to the engine vibrations.
Now I know I need to make some adjustments for her but they are minor. Tire air pressure is good and the rear shocks are at ~ 25 PSI. The bike has 520 miles on it.
Any ideas or suggestions short of trying to get my 2007 back I would appreciate it!
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I am devastated! After trading in my 2005 Fatboy and 2007 Ultra Classic to purchase a 2011.5 SEUC AND still recovering from back surgery my wife tells me this evening after a very short ride that she enjoyed the 2007 Ultra Classic better! She said the new SEUC is much rougher from the road feel to the engine vibrations.
Now I know I need to make some adjustments for her but they are minor. Tire air pressure is good and the rear shocks are at ~ 25 PSI. The bike has 520 miles on it.
Any ideas or suggestions short of trying to get my 2007 back I would appreciate it!
Based on combined rider weight, i think 25psi is to low, '09-later require higher air pressure. My brother rides solo on a '11 FLTRX 175lb. rider weight, rear set @ 35lbs. no issues ?
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Finally put mine at 50lbs, 2 up riding. For the life of me I couldn't figure out why a new bike like this would ride so rough. Finally dawned on me to check the shocks which were at 10psi. DOAH!!!! BSR was ready to kill me after I found the problem. B#$%ard, you put me through all of that when all you had to do was pump up the shocks? She didn't say it but I bet she was thinking it.
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I am devastated! After trading in my 2005 Fatboy and 2007 Ultra Classic to purchase a 2011.5 SEUC AND still recovering from back surgery my wife tells me this evening after a very short ride that she enjoyed the 2007 Ultra Classic better! She said the new SEUC is much rougher from the road feel to the engine vibrations.
Now I know I need to make some adjustments for her but they are minor. Tire air pressure is good and the rear shocks are at ~ 25 PSI. The bike has 520 miles on it.
Any ideas or suggestions short of trying to get my 2007 back I would appreciate it!
Tires front 36 PSI - rear 40 PSI
Shocks must be at 50 PSI two-up.
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rtfm ::)
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I am devastated! After trading in my 2005 Fatboy and 2007 Ultra Classic to purchase a 2011.5 SEUC AND still recovering from back surgery my wife tells me this evening after a very short ride that she enjoyed the 2007 Ultra Classic better! She said the new SEUC is much rougher from the road feel to the engine vibrations.
Now I know I need to make some adjustments for her but they are minor. Tire air pressure is good and the rear shocks are at ~ 25 PSI. The bike has 520 miles on it.
Any ideas or suggestions short of trying to get my 2007 back I would appreciate it!
Leave her at home!
:2vrolijk_21:
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Leave her at home!
:2vrolijk_21:
That ^ . Or throw away the crappy air shocks and get a good pair (of shocks).
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Just ran into the same problem, swapped a 09 UC for a '10 SEUC. Wife not happy with seat... Now she tells me :)
Rear shock pressure was near zero on the ride home, drug kickstand on every left turn... I think the SE rides better at least it seems to absorb the small road vibrations better. Don't understand why unless the lighter wheels reduce the unsprung weight??? Any wheel has to be lighter than the monsters on the '09 UC.
Then there is the heat from the cat...
Cheers,
Rusty
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The stiffer the frame is, the more "attention to detail" the suspension requires.
50psi for two and 35 psi solo.
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Just ran into the same problem, swapped a 09 UC for a '10 SEUC. Wife not happy with seat... Now she tells me :)
Rear shock pressure was near zero on the ride home, drug kickstand on every left turn... I think the SE rides better at least it seems to absorb the small road vibrations better. Don't understand why unless the lighter wheels reduce the unsprung weight??? Any wheel has to be lighter than the monsters on the '09 UC.
Then there is the heat from the cat...
Cheers,
Rusty
Not hijackin this thread, But do this :2vrolijk_21:
http://www.fullsac.com/sleeper-kit-110.html
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Thanks for the "suggestions" all. I used a suggestion of a friend regarding the rear shock air pressure. I should have RTFM since it does suggest 50 PSI.
She is also stating that my backrest is closer to her and that the back portion is tighter so I still have some adjusting to do. Even the passenger floorboards are not right for her!
I have a Fullsac X-Pipe sitting in the garage so once I get the rest of the parts I can at least address the heat issue before that becomes a complaint.
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Thanks for the "suggestions" all. I used a suggestion of a friend regarding the rear shock air pressure. I should have RTFM since it does suggest 50 PSI.
She is also stating that my backrest is closer to her and that the back portion is tighter so I still have some adjusting to do. Even the passenger floorboards are not right for her!
I have a Fullsac X-Pipe sitting in the garage so once I get the rest of the parts I can at least address the heat issue before that becomes a complaint.
Another solution here too :2vrolijk_21: Happy wife, Happy Life :drink:
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=25284.0
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:confused5:
So, my question would be just how much higher than 50psi is one going to (try) and end up with 50psi.............I've got one of those HD mini-shock pumps with the gauge on it and I try to un-screw the valve attachement as quickly as possible, but everytime, you lose air/psi in the process.
If I re-attach the whole deal, I quickly find that I have lost many psi from what my target was. Bottom line, if you're not (exceeding) your target psi when you (unhook) the deal. You are NOT gonna have the psi that you were after. :drink:
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Another solution here too :2vrolijk_21: Happy wife, Happy Life :drink:
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=25284.0
Moving the Tour-Pak back! Now that's a great idea. Thing that bothers me is that I didn't have to do that on my '07 and I hate spending more money to make adjustments that should exist from the factory. Maybe my wife has just gained some weight!
I will keep this as an option though!
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Leave her at home!
:2vrolijk_21:
:2vrolijk_21: That's what I do when she complains. I also tell her I will just
get a new BSR.
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:2vrolijk_21: That's what I do when she complains. I also tell her I will just
get a new BSR.
I agree that sometimes that is not a bad idea but in our situation if it was not for her I would not have this bike to begin with!
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Moving the Tour-Pak back! Now that's a great idea. Thing that bothers me is that I didn't have to do that on my '07 and I hate spending more money to make adjustments that should exist from the factory. Maybe my wife has just gained some weight!
I will keep this as an option though!
I didn't have to do it on my '06 SEUC either. I think it's the newer style passenger backrest on the TP...the lumbar support mechanism eats up about 1" worth of seat room. My 2011 BSR is about the same size as my 2006 BSR was...I had to get the TP relocation plate from George and put it back 1.5"...that did the trick.
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I didn't have to do it on my '06 SEUC either. I think it's the newer style passenger backrest on the TP...the lumbar support mechanism eats up about 1" worth of seat room. My 2011 BSR is about the same size as my 2006 BSR was...I had to get the TP relocation plate from George and put it back 1.5"...that did the trick.
Looks like that is the case.
Still new around here...could someone please tell me what a BSR is? Thanks!
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Looks like that is the case.
Still new around here...could someone please tell me what a BSR is? Thanks!
BSR = Back Seat Rider
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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BSR = Back Seat Rider
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
Or in Chip's case: Bowel Sounds Regular
:)
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Maybe my wife has just gained some weight!
Smart thing to do is blame it on the Bike not her. I just switched to a Corbin seat and a King tour pack from the leather on my 06 and my wife is complaining about the distance between the backrest and the tourpack. I blamed it on Corbin and Harley and told her I will move the tour pack back. She is all smiles.
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I was just going to post that Corbin will solve all those seat room problems for you. More room for the rider and the passenger. :2vrolijk_21:
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I was just going to post that Corbin will solve all those seat room problems for you. More room for the rider and the passenger. :2vrolijk_21:
I agree but the change in tourpacks and backrests is what got me in trouble.
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From 07 to 2010 SEUC Bitimbos bottomed out at same settings and when switched to ricor shocks it seemed like this 2010 needs more preload to make it ride like 07 did. New frame must be stiffer,have less flex or even shock mounted different .Love ride know that shocks adjusted right. Other thing lubar in bsr rest 1" made a big difference in bsr sitting on top of me,I have to thank george anderson for the fix. jdo
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Gabhart had same problems with my bsr switching from 2007 Ultra to the 2011.5 CVO. Did the george anderson kit moved it back 1 1/2 inches and adjusted the rear floor boards to her liking and more air in rear shocks, run 55 psi with both of us and loaded seems alot better and not as much conplaining. Think the air seat helped also. Never ride with the head phones connected helps also...lol Good luck with it.
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Thank you all again for your suggestions and comments on this. Looks like moving the Tour-Pak back will have to happen. She was not on the bike long enough to complain about the heat but that will be taken care of with the Fullsac X-Pipe. Adjusting the floorboards and filling the rear shocks to 50 PSI will happen as well.
We discussed it more in depth today and she added that the shifting was rougher and the entire bike as a whole just seemed less refined than our '07 did. I explained that the bike is still new and that the frame was re-designed along with the required adjustments that still need to be made. I also reminded her that we can't get our '07 back so we will have to make this bike work.
BTW...I would not give this bike up anyway. I love it!
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Thank you all again for your suggestions and comments on this. Looks like moving the Tour-Pak back will have to happen. She was not on the bike long enough to complain about the heat but that will be taken care of with the Fullsac X-Pipe. Adjusting the floorboards and filling the rear shocks to 50 PSI will happen as well.
We discussed it more in depth today and she added that the shifting was rougher and the entire bike as a whole just seemed less refined than our '07 did. I explained that the bike is still new and that the frame was re-designed along with the required adjustments that still need to be made. I also reminded her that we can't get our '07 back so we will have to make this bike work.
BTW...I would not give this bike up anyway. I love it!
Yep, The trusty forum here has a solution for that too, Redline heavy schockproof gear oil :2vrolijk_21:
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=44&pcid=8
Ok, i feel like i have had control of your checkbook today ;D
All good stuff here with solutions :2vrolijk_21:
Ride Safe
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The lumbar piece moves her forward. George Andersons kit should fix ya right up
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My wife also hated the new seating position on my 2010 compared to my 2007. I fabricated four new offset brackets to move to tour-pack back 2.5 inches and she is much happier. She even says it now more comfortable than the last bike. I have to agree with her that the seating position for the 2009 and up CVO ultras is too cramped and should have been thought out better. There is no reason why the TP position should not be easily adjustable like it is on the standard ultra's.
No offense to George Anderson, but $175.00 to move the TP was just outrageous IMO. I was able to use four heavy duty galvanized brackets for $17.00 to achieve the same results.
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My wife also hated the new seating position on my 2010 compared to my 2007. I fabricated four new offset brackets to move to tour-pack back 2.5 inches and she is much happier. She even says it now more comfortable than the last bike. I have to agree with her that the seating position for the 2009 and up CVO ultras is too cramped and should have been thought out better. There is no reason why the TP position should not be easily adjustable like it is on the standard ultra's.No offense to George Anderson, but $175.00 to move the TP was just outrageous IMO. I was able to use four heavy duty galvanized brackets for $17.00 to achieve the same results.
Excuse my ignorance, but I have not owned a standard ultra...how is it different?
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Excuse my ignorance, but I have not owned a standard ultra...how is it different?
Since '06 I think it was the TPs have two positions. As far as I know all the touring bikes with TPs since then have had the same configuration. The lumbar on the newer CVO bikes most definitely impinges on the BSR's space so some additional adjustment to move the TP back is a requirement imo.
I cannot understand why the moco has left the CVO touring bikes this way for what, three model years now. Inexcusable.
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What you might want to try before spending any money on the Anderson, is ride without your backrest use your wife as the backrest. I do when Soozie rides with me it's also easier for her to get on and off the bike! :nixweiss:
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What you might want to try before spending any money on the Anderson, is ride without your backrest use your wife as the backrest. I do when Soozie rides with me it's also easier for her to get on and off the bike! :nixweiss:
Try the simplest and most cost effective ideas first! Great idea!!
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Maybe my wife has just gained some weight!
Just tell her that^...end of riding complaints! [This poster not responsible for any other changes to your life--especially death, divorce, injury, or lackanookie.]
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Just tell her that^...end of riding complaints! [This poster not responsible for any other changes to your life--especially death, divorce, injury, or lackanookie.]
Yeah, I would NEVER tell her that!
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What you might want to try before spending any money on the Anderson, is ride without your backrest use your wife as the backrest. I do when Soozie rides with me it's also easier for her to get on and off the bike! :nixweiss:
:huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
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Leave her at home!
:2vrolijk_21:
DITTO!
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I have considered it!
We have a long ride tomorrow so that will be a test of the adjustments I've made. I am hoping for the best!