Topic: REAR WHEEL BRAKE DUST (Read 10642 times)

DALE#3 · « **on:** October 12, 2015, 11:55:58 AM »

We all know how much crap builds up on your nice SHINY rear wheels.Doesn't take many miles then bling is gone.
You might not see it but some do.
I don't even use the friggen rear brakes.Any special pads that cut down on the swirling CRAP.I don't wanna cut the line....
I know the belt is part of the crap.I'm thinking it might just be the belt??
YA DON'T LOOK AT IT....FIXED!

dayne66 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 12, 2015, 12:24:41 PM »

Why don't you use the rear brakes?

grc · « **Reply #2 on:** October 12, 2015, 02:54:27 PM »

Especially with a new belt, much of that crud is in fact from the belt. New belts have a special coating that protects the belt and sprockets during initial break-in, and it wears off rapidly and gets deposited on the wheel and the mufflers. It's part of the reason why a new belt needs to be readjusted very shortly after being put into service, often 500 miles or less.

As for the actual brake dust, I switched to Lyndall Z+ pads on the old SEEG and saw a huge improvement in visible brake dust on the wheels. The stock pads on those older bikes seemed to be made mostly of carbon black filler, and they would turn a wheel black in no time. I'm not sure if the difference would be so pronounced with an '08 or later bike with the current brake design (Brembo).

Jerry

DALE#3 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 12, 2015, 07:09:39 PM »

Quote from: dayne66 on October 12, 2015, 12:24:41 PM

Why don't you use the rear brakes?

Got a (probably bad) habit of leaving right foot on H-Way peg.Unless i need quick stopping or help slowing for turns to aide in turning.Or loose road material stops,rear only.

DALE#3 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 12, 2015, 07:25:26 PM »

Quote from: grc on October 12, 2015, 02:54:27 PM

Especially with a new belt, much of that crud is in fact from the belt. New belts have a special coating that protects the belt and sprockets during initial break-in, and it wears off rapidly and gets deposited on the wheel and the mufflers. It's part of the reason why a new belt needs to be readjusted very shortly after being put into service, often 500 miles or less.

As for the actual brake dust, I switched to Lyndall Z+ pads on the old SEEG and saw a huge improvement in visible brake dust on the wheels. The stock pads on those older bikes seemed to be made mostly of carbon black filler, and they would turn a wheel black in no time. I'm not sure if the difference would be so pronounced with an '08 or later bike with the current brake design (Brembo).

Jerry

Thanks Jerry! Did some research:
http://www.barnettharley.com/barnettsmagazine/product-reviews/lyndall-racing-brakes-carbon-kevlar-brake

Like the last paragraph:
So let’s review then, Lyndall pads stop better, feel better, wear well, leave no brake dust, are brainless to bed-in, and lastly, are competitively priced with Motor Company OEM pads. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out Lyndall pads should be on your wish list. They’re available through Drag Specialties and Biker’s Choice dealers (including many Harley dealers) or directly from Lyndall at www.lyndallracingbrakes.com. Also, if you need a special application pad or need an old set of drum brake shoes relined, give Paul a call. He’ll be more than happy to put a stop to your dilemma― immediately!

cyco1450 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 12, 2015, 04:51:04 PM »

Go on eBay and buy Wheel Wax. About $15. I use it on bike and cars. Keeps brake dust from sticking. You can always just use a good, heavy car wax also.

Road Dad · « **Reply #6 on:** December 12, 2015, 05:02:38 PM »

I suggest that you get some training and learn how to properly use the brakes. Might save your life someday.

CVODON · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2015, 02:07:29 PM »

I use the front brake more than the rear for sure, but not using the rear brake or riding with foot on highway peg as a reason comments scare me.
I agree with Army.

havenolife · « **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2015, 01:08:00 PM »

lol not using the rear brake don't do any good if you have a 14 and up because they are linked together they work even when you just use the front brake

Road Dad · « **Reply #9 on:** January 20, 2016, 07:24:18 PM »

Quote from: havenolife on December 16, 2015, 01:08:00 PM

lol not using the rear brake don't do any good if you have a 14 and up because they are linked together they work even when you just use the front brake

Linked above 20 mph yes. But using the wrong technique is always bad. The day you ride another bike or your linked ABS system takes a crap you could possible be a door ornament on some car.

jc15025 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2016, 05:12:40 PM »

I got a sample seafoam-bug-b-gone from sturgis and it's says good for brake dust. And used it on my w/w before I sold it. Better than Westley's bleach white and took less time. JC

Quote from: DALE#3 on October 12, 2015, 11:55:58 AM

We all know how much crap builds up on your nice SHINY rear wheels.Doesn't take many miles then bling is gone.
You might not see it but some do.
I don't even use the friggen rear brakes.Any special pads that cut down on the swirling CRAP.I don't wanna cut the line....
I know the belt is part of the crap.I'm thinking it might just be the belt??
YA DON'T LOOK AT IT....FIXED!

RoadDawg · « **Reply #11 on:** March 10, 2016, 03:14:52 PM »

Brakes linked or not, it's a good idea to get used to applying both simultaneously. As for dust, my rear wheel is always layered heavy with dust at the end of a ride while my front wheel is not. A lot of the dust has to be coming from the exhaust or something. It can't just be just brake dust or both wheels would be covered with the same amount...right? Just askin.

coloradotom · « **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2016, 08:20:02 PM »

Quote from: DALE#3 on October 12, 2015, 07:09:39 PM

Got a (probably bad) habit of leaving right foot on H-Way peg.Unless i need quick stopping or help slowing for turns to aide in turning.Or loose road material stops,rear only.

I have that same bad habit and used to snag it all the time so I put that smaller FXR pad on it and that made all the difference. Now it's not in the way anymore.

HUBBARD · « **Reply #13 on:** April 05, 2016, 09:12:27 PM »

Quote from: DALE#3 on October 12, 2015, 07:25:26 PM

Thanks Jerry! Did some research:
http://www.barnettharley.com/barnettsmagazine/product-reviews/lyndall-racing-brakes-carbon-kevlar-brake

Like the last paragraph:
So let’s review then, Lyndall pads stop better, feel better, wear well, leave no brake dust, are brainless to bed-in, and lastly, are competitively priced with Motor Company OEM pads. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out Lyndall pads should be on your wish list. They’re available through Drag Specialties and Biker’s Choice dealers (including many Harley dealers) or directly from Lyndall at www.lyndallracingbrakes.com. Also, if you need a special application pad or need an old set of drum brake shoes relined, give Paul a call. He’ll be more than happy to put a stop to your dilemma― immediately!

I've used Lyndall pads on my previous Bike, and my current one. Still get dust, it's just a different color! Lol. But never any dust on the front....Never use the front brake, except when backing out of the FEATHERLITE, or maybe at a red-light. Like the way sumps down, floats back up, and bounces a little! Hell, had an Ol' Pan, and 2 Shovels, back in the day, that didn't even have a front brake! Not sayin' I wouldn't use it, just sayin' I don't. If it wasn't illegal, I'd take it off. Later--HUBBARD

CVODON · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2016, 10:17:48 PM »

Don't use the front brake? Guess you must ride by yourself, can not imagine anyone riding in front of you knowing you will hit them do to 70% of your braking being on front and you don't use it. Scary, Hopefully you are kidding.

Road Dad · « **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2016, 10:22:50 PM »

Lots of people around that depends on luck Instead of skills. Front is 70-80%!!

Sport bike riders take pride in riding skills. Harley riders think Chrome and loud pipes is the solution

HUBBARD · « **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2016, 10:55:35 PM »

Quote from: CVODON on April 05, 2016, 10:17:48 PM

Don't use the front brake? Guess you must ride by yourself, can not imagine anyone riding in front of you knowing you will hit them do to 70% of your braking being on front and you don't use it. Scary, Hopefully you are kidding.

Nope. Very seldom ride by myself, unless I need emergency therapy. Then, I act like a pure idiot. I just keep twistin' it till it changes tunes...for miles and miles.......then.........the peace comes, and I'm a new man! Nobody rides in front of me, except Unbalanced occasionally, 'cause nobody can keep up. And no, I ain't kiddin'. There endeth the lesson. Later--HUBBARD

HUBBARD · « **Reply #17 on:** April 05, 2016, 11:24:24 PM »

Quote from: 117 Cubic Inch on April 05, 2016, 10:22:50 PM

Lots of people around that depends on luck Instead of skills. Front is 70-80%!!

Sport bike riders take pride in riding skills. Harley riders think Chrome and loud pipes is the solution

Sport bike riders? WTF do they have to do with the price of eggs? They're crazier than I am, up here. As far as skills, it's a wise man that knows his limitations, and the limitations of his Motorsickle. I can keep one between the ditches. And since I stopped drinkin' liquor......I ain't had a single crash! Real...hard-core...old-school Harley riders know......Chrome will get you home...and LOUD PIPES SAVE LIVES! There endeth the lesson. Later--HUBBARD

r0de_runr · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2016, 11:39:49 AM »

After every ride I wipe off the bike (usually) and the rag gets black from the back fender. I'm thinking it's the tire that I'm wiping off, not brake dust. That's why we have to replace tires at 12 or 15 k miles.

MrSurly · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2016, 01:22:31 PM »

Regardless the technique deployed or front or rear I highly recommend EBC double-H pads.
Almost zero dust (no pads make truly zero) and great stopping power wet or dry and never a squeak

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HUBBARD · « **Reply #20 on:** April 08, 2016, 10:23:46 PM »

Quote from: MrSurly on April 06, 2016, 01:22:31 PM

Regardless the technique deployed or front or rear I highly recommend EBC double-H pads.
Almost zero dust (no pads make truly zero) and great stopping power wet or dry and never a squeak

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Not familiar with those, but I'll try them when due. Like I say, the only difference I see with the Lyndall is the dust looks like pollen, as opposed to black. Still a bitch to clean! Later--HUBBARD

MrSurly · « **Reply #21 on:** April 08, 2016, 10:45:44 PM »

The EBC HH pads are awesome and in my experience, preferable to Lyndalls.

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phato1 · « **Reply #22 on:** May 04, 2016, 09:01:29 PM »

Quote from: MrSurly on April 08, 2016, 10:45:44 PM

The EBC HH pads are awesome and in my experience, preferable to Lyndalls.

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I have to agree.

I switched to the EBC HH pads early last year after years of using the Lyndall pads. IMHO The EBC stop better, wear better and leave less brake dust to clean off.

Ironhorse · « **Reply #23 on:** May 04, 2016, 09:40:54 PM »

Quote from: Carl Spackler on April 05, 2016, 10:22:50 PM

Lots of people around that depends on luck Instead of skills. Front is 70-80%!!

Yup, alone the front has MUCH more braking power than the rear.

But as I used to tell my student riders, if you were on a ship at sea, would you want your life vest to work 80% or 100%? Might not be a bad idea to get used to using BOTH brake systems and get 100% out of something that your life could depend on.

Trapperdog · « **Reply #24 on:** May 04, 2016, 10:49:59 PM »

Quote from: Ironhorse on May 04, 2016, 09:40:54 PM

Yup, alone the front has MUCH more braking power than the rear.

But as I used to tell my student riders, if you were on a ship at sea, would you want your life vest to work 80% or 100%? Might not be a bad idea to get used to using BOTH brake systems and get 100% out of something that your life could depend on.

In this case, the life vest would only be working 10% of the time

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