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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #420 on: February 10, 2016, 02:03:43 PM »
Quote from: dnlpnd on February 10, 2016, 10:44:07 AM
There is a lot of wisdom in these statements.  Then when you start diving into changing/porting heads and exhausts, things get even more complicated.  I've learned my lesson about "rideability".  I am on my third exhaust system and my current cam choice is questionable.  The Feuling 574 is not crisp at the bottom like the stock SE-255 was and I kind of miss that feel even though I am making some pretty high WOT dyno numbers with minimal part changes.  I continue to struggle with head selection with the 117ci kit.  Everyone of course claims to have a better mouse trap and not so coincidentally they are all priced at $1800 a set. (R&R, FM, and Delkron, etc.)  Even ordering HD raw head castings and have someone port them puts you right back at ~$1800.  I am still really anxious hear Steve's report out on the GMR Headwork and GMR 600 cam with the 117ci kit on the other 117 kit thread.

p.s. In my opinion, for those who have not installed the stock 117ci kit yet, using the thinner Cometic 0.030" thick head gasket with this 117ci kit is a $41.59 no-brainer for a tiny compression bump that can only help performance.

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$1800 on heads??? Maybe I miss understood but if not I would do some shopping around. If I did then completely disregard this post. Thinking a couple vendors on here could build a really nice set for a little less than that price that would work very well.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #421 on: February 10, 2016, 02:07:58 PM »
Quote from: Yellow09SERG on February 10, 2016, 02:03:43 PM
$1800 on heads??? Maybe I miss understood but if not I would do some shopping around. If I did then completely disregard this post. Thinking a couple vendors on here could build a really nice set for a little less than that price that would work very well.

No, you didn't misunderstand.  Without cores, ~$1800/set has been the about the going rate even from vendors on here, unless there is someone out there I haven't heard from. :)  New raw CVO head castings are ~$1000 + $700 parts & labor + shipping.

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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #422 on: February 10, 2016, 02:15:44 PM »
Quote from: dnlpnd on February 10, 2016, 02:07:58 PM
No, you didn't misunderstand.  Without cores, ~$1800/set has been the about the going rate even from vendors on here, unless there is someone out there I haven't heard from.   :)  New raw CVO head castings are ~$1000 + $700 parts & labor + shipping.

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I'm sending mine to WFO Larry & if you could pick up a set of cores maybe 900.00 tops imho
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #423 on: February 10, 2016, 02:53:14 PM »
not sure why the core deal?
Ship yours for the headwork, they ship back and done. No where near $1,800.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #424 on: February 10, 2016, 08:36:17 PM »
Quote from: Mr. Warlock on February 10, 2016, 02:53:14 PM
not sure why the core deal?
Ship yours for the headwork, they ship back and done. No where near $1,800.
 


I would be guessing that Dnlpnd wants to keep his original heads

Similar to what I am looking to do.......
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #425 on: February 10, 2016, 09:07:22 PM »
Quote from: rodrocket on February 10, 2016, 08:36:17 PM
I would be guessing that dnlpnd wants to keep his original heads

Similar to what I am looking to do.......

 :2vrolijk_21: I didn't think I needed to explain why I want full replacement heads, HD castings or otherwise.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #426 on: February 11, 2016, 05:12:16 AM »
Quote from: dnlpnd on February 10, 2016, 09:07:22 PM
:2vrolijk_21: I didn't think I needed to explain why I want full replacement heads, HD castings or otherwise.

I must have missed the part where you said that you wanted full replacement heads. It's kind of hard to ague the cost when it's your decision to go this way.
But yeah your right, probably just about $1,800 to go this way.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #427 on: February 11, 2016, 05:41:53 AM »
Quote from: rodrocket on February 10, 2016, 08:36:17 PM
 
I would be guessing that Dnlpnd wants to keep his original heads

Similar to what I am looking to do.......
Not a bad idea for those in Australia
Cost of shipping heads to US is more than 1/2 the cost of the stock castings
Might as well have a ported set shipped here and keep the originals

Doesn't make as much sense for those in the US
Don't have anything more important to spend $ on than spare heads   :nixweiss:
I know some like to keep stock parts for a future sale ?
But everything that replaces stock will be better
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #428 on: February 11, 2016, 08:06:13 PM »
In case anyone is curious- LA Harley is usually my video benchmark for learning about the results of a lot of performance mods.

Looks like they just did a 117 piston / jug kit with t man cams.

Decent results.




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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #429 on: February 11, 2016, 09:17:18 PM »
How much lift will the stock cvo waterhead (like this video) take? This cam has nice numbers with .600 lift....
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #430 on: February 12, 2016, 10:48:14 AM »
Pretty sure you can run .625s with stock heads


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #431 on: February 12, 2016, 04:34:38 PM »
Special thank you to Stephanie and Tim @ Custom Engraving Limited for the final touch to my 117 build EXCELLENT Workmanship.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #432 on: February 12, 2016, 04:37:18 PM »

Quote from: gpopvet on February 12, 2016, 04:34:38 PM
Special thank you to Stephanie and Tim @ Custom Engraving Limited for the final touch to my 117 build EXCELLENT Workmanship.

Woah mama!

So, any numbers??


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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #433 on: February 12, 2016, 04:49:57 PM »
Trying to put miles on very cold should have some relief next week.
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Re: Harley 117 Kit
« Reply #434 on: February 12, 2016, 05:04:18 PM »

Quote from: gpopvet on February 12, 2016, 04:49:57 PM
Trying to put miles on very cold should have some relief next week.

Understandable.

Regardless, that derby cover is awesome


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