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[HD Street Performance]

There is a HD time manual. If a dealer chooses to add on they can.
Caveat emptor.

[ultrafxr]

There is a HD time manual. If a dealer chooses to add on they can.
Caveat emptor.

Learned several years ago that my dealer bumps the moco flat rate time by 25%. Wouldn't be at all surprised if many/most dealers add on.  Backhanded way to keep $ rate down yet increase revenue.


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[Fired00d]

Learned several years ago that my dealer bumps the moco flat rate time by 25%. Wouldn't be at all surprised if many/most dealers add on.  Backhanded way to keep $ rate down yet increase revenue.


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Add to that a good technician can do the job in 25% (or more) less time while working on multiple bikes at the same time... cha-ching$$$!!

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[brassspike]

One here charges 98 an hour, pushes the tech to finish early, then says the job took more time than flat rate.  When questioned he says I don't have harley flat rate schedule .  I do. Thanks cvo harley!
Bike also has FIN so I have the actual time it was worked on, roughly half of what the book allows. Bottom  line is about 250 an hour! BTW got a refund on that one and started buying my own  twin cam tools.

[ClinesSelect]

I just had the dealer install a 117 kit on my 2016 FLTRUSE.  The only other modification is a set of SVT Boneshaker slip-ons and I have the SE Street Tuner (yuck). 

The dyno results on the 110 with CFR slip-ons were:

78HP and 99TQ
83HP and 107TQ. 

The dyno results on the 117 with SVT slip-ons were:

96HP and 105TQ
102HP and 117TQ

From reading all 85 pages it feels like my numbers are on the low side.   I am wondering if I should look at a different tuner that has better abilities.   The dealer will not dyno the bike with any tuner other than the Street Tuner so I would need to find an independent.   

[timo482]

some of the dealers have had a real reputation for performance work.. I'm wondering if the guys that do that work are going to have to leave the dealerships and go independent to keep doing it...

[HD Street Performance]

They just have to sway the boss to resist temptation and not like hook up with the Fuel Pack guys (Drag Specialties dealer for V&H) and go with a TTS, Power Vision, or Direct Link and properly train their guy(s). Most won't unless they are serious about performance work.

[ultraswede]

Waiting for delivery of my SE 117 kit.
I will keep the kit as is + V&H PD, Fullsac 1.75 and TTS.

Looking forward to spring

[manllyy]

I deciding to upgrade mine Brakeout with SE 117 kit , but asked the dealer they charged a lot for labor


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[motor1]

Considering the complete 117 kit (street). I want to use the kit as designed by Harley with the exception of a TTS reflash. My only concern is in MPG;  not because I give a crap about fuel economy, I don't, and not because I worry about climate change, I don't. I just don't want to have to stop for fuel every 100 miles.  If the bike held 20 gallons I would not care if I only got 10 miles to the gallon, I like to ride about 200 miles at a clip before having to worry about stopping for fuel.  So after having said all this what are you guys really getting for touring mileage?  As always I appreciate the feedback.

[HD Street Performance]

The size of the motor is not controlling the fuel consumption. The right wrist and the quality of the tune are most important.

[YELLOWBIRD]

Considering the complete 117 kit (street). I want to use the kit as designed by Harley with the exception of a TTS reflash. My only concern is in MPG;  not because I give a crap about fuel economy, I don't, and not because I worry about climate change, I don't. I just don't want to have to stop for fuel every 100 miles.  If the bike held 20 gallons I would not care if I only got 10 miles to the gallon, I like to ride about 200 miles at a clip before having to worry about stopping for fuel.  So after having said all this what are you guys really getting for touring mileage?  As always I appreciate the feedback.

IT really depends on your right hand regarding mileage.

I have gotten 265 miles per tank (had a bit more) touring doing 5 mph over speed limit. Then again, I have gotten 200 miles per tank when jumping curves with the boys!

Either way, driving like "Driving Miss Daisy" or "Riding like Evil Knievel", it's still the funniest and Best $20.00 spent for fun!!!


 


YB

[fastfreddy]

 i cant speak for the 117 kit, but with my 124hp 110 inch, if i ride it sanely im in the 40 + - ... and if im riding like i stole it any where from 32ish low side to 36 witch aint to bad. the TUNE is the key to your results!!! and my 16 is bone stock other than fullsac 2.0 cores same MPG with that    ... not as much fun to ride as the 13 FYI

[GKroadking]

I didn't discover any more consumption with the 117 Kit compared with the 110 before


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[FLSTFI Dave]

Considering the complete 117 kit (street). I want to use the kit as designed by Harley with the exception of a TTS reflash. My only concern is in MPG;  not because I give a crap about fuel economy, I don't, and not because I worry about climate change, I don't. I just don't want to have to stop for fuel every 100 miles.  If the bike held 20 gallons I would not care if I only got 10 miles to the gallon, I like to ride about 200 miles at a clip before having to worry about stopping for fuel.  So after having said all this what are you guys really getting for touring mileage?  As always I appreciate the feedback.

The only thing I am using is the cylinder heads.  My HD heads have been ported by HD Street Performance, I have custom pistons for 11.4 compression,TW-9B-6 cam, 55 HPI tb, 5.3 injectors, woods Alpha directional lifters, Fullsac "D" pipe and 2.25 cores, TTS Tuner.  Its 138 HP and 140 Torque. 

On the hwy at 5 over mpg is slightly better than stock.  Most the time I get stock or better mpg.  When I am running it hard it goes down.  My worst tank was 40.5 mpg.