Topic: Making the tour pack removable having the best of both worlds? (Read 16323 times)

Rio · « **on:** January 10, 2012, 10:16:28 AM »

Hey,

Before i bought this bike, I had a skunk on order. I rarely ride with a passenger and really only use the tour pack when I travel. I called the local HD dealer and asked what it would cost for parts and labor to rig the tour pack so it was easy disconnect so I can have a 1 of a kind RG custom when I wanted, or ride 1 of 1,347 SERGU too. They said they only did it once, and it cost the customer over $2,000 for the mods

I spoke with the parts manager who I had known for several years that started out on the counter, and he said the expense was in the wiring? The amp, electric locks and such if you wanted it to all work both ways? He said if you wanted to trash the Harley tour pack amp, that would save a lot of money and time, but you would still have a pretty hefty investment? He said things you don't think about, like the filler strips when the tour pack is off, and you probably don't want that cushy pillowy seat if you are looking for that slick custom look. When you take all that into consideration, thats $$$$

Any thoughts? I like the idea of the 1 of a kind but I have limits!!

GregKhougaz · « **Reply #1 on:** January 10, 2012, 11:25:59 AM »

Rio, This has been done it many times by guys who own SEUC's. You might want to try the search function and I'm sure you will find threads with instructions. Good luck!

Rio · « **Reply #2 on:** January 10, 2012, 01:21:29 PM »

Quote from: GregKhougaz on January 10, 2012, 11:25:59 AM

Rio, This has been done it many times by guys who own SEUC's. You might want to try the search function and I'm sure you will find threads with instructions. Good luck!

I have read some of the threads, none of them were extremely descriptive. My problem is that I can tinker around, but if i can't do it by looking at a picture, it's beyond my abilities. Maybe someone that did it can chime in and we can talk? I was told that you have to make a significant amount of mods to do it right?

Harleypingman · « **Reply #3 on:** January 10, 2012, 05:57:50 PM »

Shoot Heatwave a PM; he has a '10 CVO Ultra and made the tour pak removeable along with other mods.

Carl

Rio · « **Reply #4 on:** January 10, 2012, 06:09:25 PM »

Quote from: Harleypingman on January 10, 2012, 05:57:50 PM

Shoot Heatwave a PM; he has a '10 CVO Ultra and made the tour pak removeable along with other mods.

Carl

thanks

GregKhougaz · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2012, 02:05:38 PM »

Rio,

hotroadking did the conversion on an '11 SERGU. Here is his thead: Converting 11 RGU Tour Pack to Detachable.

Good Luck!

BADBAGG · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2012, 06:09:59 PM »

Here is a pic of my Buddies 11 sergu with detachable tour pack. If he put a different seat on it , it will look really close to the 2012....

Rio · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2012, 07:20:29 PM »

Quote from: BADBAGG on January 11, 2012, 06:09:59 PM

Here is a pic of my Buddies 11 sergu with detachable tour pack. If he put a different seat on it , it will look really close to the 2012....

Better than a 2012, better wheels, and no skulls. I would love to have that look as an option, actually, the tour pack would be off the bike all the time except for road trips. I guess it's one of those things that you just have to start taking things apart and see where it takes you?

BADBAGG · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2012, 07:23:40 PM »

Quote from: Rio on January 11, 2012, 07:20:29 PM

Better than a 2012, better wheels, and no skulls. I would love to have that look as an option, actually, the tour pack would be off the bike all the time except for road trips. I guess it's one of those things that you just have to start taking things apart and see where it takes you?

It really looked nice. With a solo seat on it, it would look sweet !!!

BADBAGG · « **Reply #9 on:** January 11, 2012, 07:25:00 PM »

He had his local Harley Dealer do it for him, I will ask what they charged him..

Rio · « **Reply #10 on:** January 11, 2012, 10:16:47 PM »

Quote from: BADBAGG on January 11, 2012, 07:25:00 PM

He had his local Harley Dealer do it for him, I will ask what they charged him..

Thanks, Im not a patient person or technically or mechanically talented. My dealer said about 2k which was all about rewiring. I thought that was crazy. I can see it being expensive with new amps, seat, and hardware? Labor? Curious what he says

kraut · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2012, 06:16:10 AM »

I don't know the US prices but as to the work and parts needed your dealer is correct. The wiring really is a beast and needs to be done with particular diligence to avoid a source of future trouble.

Rio · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2012, 09:02:32 AM »

Quote from: kraut on January 12, 2012, 06:16:10 AM

I don't know the US prices but as to the work and parts needed your dealer is correct. The wiring really is a beast and needs to be done with particular diligence to avoid a source of future trouble.

The putting stuff on and taking stuff off, I'm OK with. When it comes to electrical and wiring, I am lost, and I agree, these bikes have become mini computers and any type of electrical short or problem can haunt you forever it can make the ownership experience miserable. I really want to make this mod because I know that I will probably rarely ever put the tour pack back on once this is done. With the electric locks, amps, tour pak lights, I just don't want any issues down the road. I really don't think I should or will go this one alone. I will either try and find someone that can help or give it up?

kraut · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2012, 09:23:53 AM »

good approach

bandit · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2012, 02:32:11 PM »

ever considered this as a complete different approach:

Harleypingman · « **Reply #15 on:** January 12, 2012, 02:40:41 PM »

In one respect, HD has made it much easier to make the tour pak detachable on your bike: HD now sells the same amp used on your bike that's mounted under the fairing, as an in-fairing accessory; here's a link to the installation instructions:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/downloads/Service/isheets/-J05267.pdf

The accessory amp will allow you retain the same audio that you presently have, though you will need to adapt the wiring; pretty straightforward with the wiring diagrams in the service manuals. Of course, there are better amps available to use in the fairing in place of the HD amp.

HD offers detachable tour pak kits for non-CVO Ultras which would provide most of the parts necessary, and instructions for disconnecting the audio and electrical at the tour pak with the exception of the power lock. Here's the installation instructions:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/downloads/Service/isheets/-J04744.pdf

With the 2011 HD Touring Service Manual and the SM supplement for your '11 CVO RGU, the project is very doable. Yes, you will spend $$$ for a solo seat, detachable hardware, etc. But given your strong preference for riding the bike w/o the tour pak on the bike, it seems like a worthwhile undertaking--I know I enjoy my '04 w/o the tour pak on the bike, and appreciate the convenience of installing the tour pak for long trips.

Suggestion: Buy the SM's from HD and review the relevant portions dealing with the tour pak's electrical and audio, as well as the instructions provided above. They will probably provide you with a good understanding of 95% of what's involved, and make it easier for you to talk to those who have already done the job.

Personally, a Rio Red CVO RGU set-up w/a solo seat and no tour pak looks killer.

Carl

Fattbaggernknox · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2012, 03:26:27 PM »

I did mine at home in the garage.. I just found connectors with the appropriate number of pins & made mine quick disconnect. Replaced amp with J&M & ride it with a solo seat. The bike feels so much better w/o the tp on it!

Rio · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2012, 03:40:20 PM »

Quote from: Fattbaggernknox on January 12, 2012, 03:26:27 PM

I did mine at home in the garage.. I just found connectors with the appropriate number of pins & made mine quick disconnect. Replaced amp with J&M & ride it with a solo seat. The bike feels so much better w/o the tp on it!

See, I think your bike looks better than the 2012 SERGC. That's what I want, and in the Rio Red, like the comment above, would look killer! Still don't feel comfortable doing the electronics myself. I have to try and find someone here in Michigan that's good with that stuff. The hardware portion is simple.

Teemo Supremo · « **Reply #18 on:** January 08, 2014, 07:18:47 PM »

I did most of this in 3 hours. Will finish electrical this week, once I get the disconnect connector. Love it and no big deal. Put amp in right saddle bag.

Teemo Supremo · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2014, 01:37:04 PM »

getting there. Will do electrical next week

Rio · « **Reply #20 on:** January 11, 2014, 10:38:27 AM »

Man, I want to do this in the worst way! I am sending my bags to EXTREME, they are going to stretch them and paint them along with the rear fender extention. I would love to make the tour pack removable, it would be like having two bikes! I think I just may say screw it, the quick and do away with the HD amp under the tourpack and screw the functionality of the communication system I never use it anyway. Put a 4-channel amp under the fairing and have a quick disconnect for the rear speakers and be done with it. If I ever sell the bike, the new owner would probably appreciate the versitility more than the communication system anyway!

Lars · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2014, 12:51:44 AM »

Rio,
I did the quick disconnect TP thing and added a Street Glide seat to my 2013 SEUC.
The stock amp was moved to the right saddlebag and it slid down into the front of the saddlebag liner and was nice and snug without having to attach it.
The amp wire harness was long enough and flexible enough so I could flatten it out a bit to curve over the rim of the saddlebag and the bag lid would close and latch with no problem. I've attached a pic.

gpopvet · « **Reply #22 on:** January 12, 2014, 08:09:53 AM »

Your bike looks outstanding like that. I am going to Brians tomorrow to get more information.

Lars · « **Reply #23 on:** January 12, 2014, 10:41:13 AM »

Teemo Supremo,
Your scoot looks great. Of course I'm a bit partial to its color.
Is that a custom made seat? I'd like to know the make and model if you'd be so kind.

Thanks,

boatdoggie · « **Reply #24 on:** April 14, 2014, 10:09:11 PM »

I'm reading your post for the first time. As the owner of an '11 FLTRUSE, I want the tour pack off much of the time. It's VERY complicated. I have done it by hand to see what it looks like but there were many small issues remaining when I did. Would you mind letting me know where you're at in the process?

Looking forward to seeing how your project is progressing.

Robmay · « **Reply #25 on:** May 07, 2014, 09:25:59 PM »

Looking to do the same with mine for some versatility. Staying tuned.....

OBB · « **Reply #26 on:** May 07, 2014, 09:45:02 PM »

Quote from: Robmay on May 07, 2014, 09:25:59 PM

Looking to do the same with mine for some versatility. Staying tuned.....

Just wait until you see all the damn factory stickers on the fender under the seat. Have thought about doing it on mine too.

popsracing · « **Reply #27 on:** May 11, 2014, 12:04:45 PM »

Quote from: Teemo Supremo on January 08, 2014, 07:18:47 PM

I did most of this in 3 hours. Will finish electrical this week, once I get the disconnect connector. Love it and no big deal. Put amp in right saddle bag.

Hey Teemo, what color is your Corbin seat?...I'm thinking about this and I like the redish color you have on the bottom of yours.

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