Topic: Mapsource Question (Read 6854 times)

Hoist! · « **on:** July 31, 2008, 01:40:32 PM »

I lost my HD and reformatted and am starting from scratch. My mapsource came with a handheld we bought a few years ago. I had been keeping it updated thru Garmin and was the latest version I think. But there was some lengthy procedure to install this if I recall. I have 2 discs from the handheld. Mapsource City Select V 3.00, and Trip and Waypoint Manager V 2.02. There's also some unlock code I recall messing around with. Is it still the same code even though I'm installing it again. Do you need to unlock, and/or reregister w/Garmin? Am I entitled to a new Version of Mapsource since I bought my Zumo less than a year ago? Anything else you can tell me about this would be helpful. I have the disc that came with my Zumo, still unopened. It's City Navigator NT, North America. Should I be using that instead? Where do you get the unlock code? You can tell I'm a little lost with this stuff. What should I be installing/doing to get back up to speed here? Thanks gang!

Hoist!

Hoist! · « **Reply #1 on:** July 31, 2008, 02:19:53 PM »

Where's Gary when you need him?

Hoist!

xjackx · « **Reply #2 on:** July 31, 2008, 02:27:08 PM »

Hoist, I don't know enough about the ZUMO to tell you which software to use but I can tell you my unlock code is on a yellow card that came with the disks.
Very simple to install.

ultrafxr · « **Reply #3 on:** July 31, 2008, 02:28:56 PM »

Quote from: Hoist! on July 31, 2008, 01:40:32 PM

I lost my HD and reformatted and am starting from scratch. My mapsource came with a handheld we bought a few years ago. I had been keeping it updated thru Garmin and was the latest version I think. But there was some lengthy procedure to install this if I recall. I have 2 discs from the handheld. Mapsource City Select V 3.00, and Trip and Waypoint Manager V 2.02. There's also some unlock code I recall messing around with. Is it still the same code even though I'm installing it again. Do you need to unlock, and/or reregister w/Garmin? Am I entitled to a new Version of Mapsource since I bought my Zumo less than a year ago? Anything else you can tell me about this would be helpful. I have the disc that came with my Zumo, still unopened. It's City Navigator NT, North America. Should I be using that instead? Where do you get the unlock code? You can tell I'm a little lost with this stuff. What should I be installing/doing to get back up to speed here? Thanks gang!

Hoist!

Howie, haven't done this myself in quite a while but I can tell you that you want to use the City Navigator NT, North American with you Zumo. Probably version '2008' judging from when you bought your Zumo. There is a newer version out and yes, I think you are entitled to it free of charge as you stated. City Nav may not work on your handheld, no idea, but know for sure that is what you want for your Zumo.

Think you should have the unlock code on seperate paper somewhere in the stack of stuff you got with the Zumo. But if all else fails when you get there I'd call Garmin tech support. Hard to reach sometimes but they've always been great when I had a question or problem.

Hope this helps a little.

Jerry

Hoist! · « **Reply #4 on:** July 31, 2008, 03:00:01 PM »

Thanks Jerry and Jack! So far so good I guess. Based on the above, I found a yellow paper with the unlock code on it. So I guess just follow the directions on the back of the CD jacket for City Navigator NT? I'll be using that now I guess. Anything special I need to know? Any tricks? Thanks again.

Hoist!

ultrafxr · « **Reply #5 on:** July 31, 2008, 03:04:39 PM »

Quote from: Hoist! on July 31, 2008, 03:00:01 PM

Thanks Jerry and Jack! So far so good I guess. Based on the above, I found a yellow paper with the unlock code on it. So I guess just follow the directions on the back of the CD jacket for City Navigator NT? I'll be using that now I guess. Anything special I need to know? Any tricks? Thanks again.

Hoist!

Like you said Howie, just follow the directions. When all else fails that's what I do, lol. Seriously, I don't think you'll have any problem. Pretty simple install.

murphy · « **Reply #6 on:** July 31, 2008, 03:09:52 PM »

Please... no mention of Gary and Zumo... I went through all 37 pages of posts last night in the Zumo tips thread... everything was fine till I stumbled on mention of him and some red thong... still traumatized today!!!

iski · « **Reply #7 on:** July 31, 2008, 03:30:24 PM »

Quote from: murphy on July 31, 2008, 03:09:52 PM

Please... no mention of Gary and Zumo... I went through all 37 pages of posts last night in the Zumo tips thread... everything was fine till I stumbled on mention of him and some red thong... still traumatized today!!!

He must be ordering his new SERG today, the one he plans to park in Mr. We's & my garage at 6 month intervals, since he doesn't have room in his. No agreement has been reached as to thong storage.

Hoist! · « **Reply #8 on:** July 31, 2008, 03:32:58 PM »

HeHe!

Well, I guess I should just jump in and try this chit out first before I ask. I installed it with no problems and it was simple as Jerry said. I remember having trouble the first time and had to call them. I wanted to avoid all that. This time it went very smooth. No clue how to use it, but it's in there now. Thanks for your help gang!

Hoist!

Gone Fishin' · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2008, 03:37:24 PM »

Quote from: Hoist! on July 31, 2008, 03:00:01 PM

Thanks Jerry and Jack! So far so good I guess. Based on the above, I found a yellow paper with the unlock code on it. So I guess just follow the directions on the back of the CD jacket for City Navigator NT? I'll be using that now I guess. Anything special I need to know? Any tricks? Thanks again.

Hoist!

It is important that you sign up to Garmin's website for updates of the firmware (if necessary) and the maps (if available). There should also be a white paper with a rather lenghty URL. If not, you need to call Garmin at 1-800-800-1020. They will point you to the right URL.

Ride safely,
Louis

iski · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2008, 03:48:11 PM »

Quote from: Hoist! on July 31, 2008, 03:32:58 PM

HeHe!

Well, I guess I should just jump in and try this chit out first before I ask. I installed it with no problems and it was simple as Jerry said. I remember having trouble the first time and had to call them. I wanted to avoid all that. This time it went very smooth. No clue how to use it, but it's in there now. Thanks for your help gang!

Hoist!

I read the Zumo thread & scratch my head sometimes Howie. It seems to help. Not in using every newfangled feature of my Zumo, mostly it eases the itch on my head.

Mike

Hoist! · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2008, 04:07:25 PM »

Quote from: iski on July 31, 2008, 03:48:11 PM

I read the Zumo thread & scratch my head sometimes Howie. It seems to help. Not in using every newfangled feature of my Zumo, mostly it eases the itch on my head.

Mike

LOL Mike!

Quote from: Louis on July 31, 2008, 03:37:24 PM

It is important that you sign up to Garmin's website for updates of the firmware (if necessary) and the maps (if available). There should also be a white paper with a rather lenghty URL. If not, you need to call Garmin at 1-800-800-1020. They will point you to the right URL.

Ride safely,
Louis

What's the special URL for? There's a Web Updater application in the Garmin Folder, from the software I just installed. Isn't that used for Mapsource updates and Zumo firmware updates?

No white paper with a URL. Just the yellow paper with the unlock code. The only URL referenced ther is my.garmin.com.

Thanks.

Hoist!

Hoist! · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2008, 04:15:30 PM »

Web Updater seems to be for the Zumo. The Update for Mapsource is in Help in Mapsource. There's a 6.14.1.0 update available and it won't install. After it downloads, I get this error: "Invalid command line parameter (restart)." This pops up in a Window called "WinZip Self Extractor". It closes Mapsource and opens that window. Then click OK and everything's closed with no action taken. The update must be dowmloaded because when I try again, it only takes 2 secs for that, instead of the minute or so it took to download the first time. Friggin' computers! What am I doing wrong? All i did was click update!

Hoist!

Hoist! · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2008, 04:30:10 PM »

No wonder I hate computers. I jumped on the Zumo Forum and searched for Mapsource updates. I found a link to the latest 6.14.1.0. It took you to some obscure Garmin website and I downloaded it again from there. Then it installed with no problem thru the same WinZip Self Extractor program that failed when I downloaded it from Mapsource. I'll never get this chit!

I guess I'm updated now! The map looks prettier!

Hoist!

porthole · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2008, 05:26:42 PM »

Howie,

Web updater makes for a fairly seamless update path for your GPS software.

GO to the zumo page on the garmin site and follow the links for downloads - updates.

Hoist! · « **Reply #15 on:** July 31, 2008, 05:33:01 PM »

Quote from: porthole on July 31, 2008, 05:26:42 PM

Howie,

Web updater makes for a fairly seamless update path for your GPS software.

GO to the zumo page on the garmin site and follow the links for downloads - updates.

Thanks Duane. I just plugged my Zumo in and went to Web Updater in the Garmin Folder. It downloaded a software update, POI Loader, and 1 other I think. Don't know what versions of these things were in there before. It doesn't hurt if you downloaded something you already had, does it? Between the Mapsource Update and The Zumo Updates, I think I'm up to date now. But then again.....

Hoist!

Gone Fishin' · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2008, 10:39:47 PM »

Quote from: Hoist! on July 31, 2008, 04:30:10 PM

No wonder I hate computers. I jumped on the Zumo Forum and searched for Mapsource updates. I found a link to the latest 6.14.1.0. It took you to some obscure Garmin website and I downloaded it again from there. Then it installed with no problem thru the same WinZip Self Extractor program that failed when I downloaded it from Mapsource. I'll never get this chit!

I guess I'm updated now! The map looks prettier!

Hoist!

Yes. You are ready to go.

porthole · « **Reply #17 on:** August 01, 2008, 12:11:03 AM »

Quote from: Hoist! on July 31, 2008, 05:33:01 PM

Don't know what versions of these things were in there before. It doesn't hurt if you downloaded something you already had, does it? Between the

Howie, the Garmin updater should be smart enough to know if you already have the current version or are replacing an older version, just follow the updater's lead and you should be good to go.

Sean M Cary · « **Reply #18 on:** August 01, 2008, 06:30:58 AM »

Quote from: porthole on August 01, 2008, 12:11:03 AM

Howie, the Garmin updater should be smart enough to know if you already have the current version or are replacing an older version, just follow the updater's lead and you should be good to go.

Only issue you may have is that the old handheld might not work with it (the map app) unlocked for the Zumo... I have a Garmin 60CS that I used before the Zumo and I installed the new Navigator the other day when the Zumo arrived. Have not tried to use it with my 60CS...but I have a feeling it won't work...have to try it this weekend.

Garmin is a PIA with their unlocking crap. I have an account on the Garmin page that has all of the keys that I have used over the years...helps when I rebuild the PC's and need to unlock the software again.

Sean

Hoist! · « **Reply #19 on:** August 01, 2008, 08:00:46 AM »

Thanks for all the help gang! Should be back in business now!

I don't use the handheld. It was a PIA so I never used it. I didn't even realize that there was different Mapsource software for that and the Zumo. Now I'm using the Mapsource software that came with the Zumo. But I still have no idea what I'm doing with Mapsource. Still waiting for my tutorial from Rich or Andy.

Hoist!

Sean M Cary · « **Reply #20 on:** August 01, 2008, 08:42:12 AM »

Quote from: Hoist! on August 01, 2008, 08:00:46 AM

Thanks for all the help gang! Should be back in business now!

I don't use the handheld. It was a PIA so I never used it. I didn't even realize that there was different Mapsource software for that and the Zumo. Now I'm using the Mapsource software that came with the Zumo. But I still have no idea what I'm doing with Mapsource. Still waiting for my tutorial from Rich or Andy.

Hoist!

Not sure its different, its just their freaking un-lock is a huge PIA - pretty sure it locks it to one GPS.

Not home so I can't try it...duty tonight so it will be tomorrow morning before I am home, but I will give a whirl and try my 60CS on with the Navigator I unlocked with the ZUMO...

ultrafxr · « **Reply #21 on:** August 01, 2008, 09:18:46 AM »

Quote from: Hoist! on July 31, 2008, 04:30:10 PM

No wonder I hate computers. I jumped on the Zumo Forum and searched for Mapsource updates. I found a link to the latest 6.14.1.0. It took you to some obscure Garmin website and I downloaded it again from there. Then it installed with no problem thru the same WinZip Self Extractor program that failed when I downloaded it from Mapsource. I'll never get this chit!

I guess I'm updated now! The map looks prettier!

Hoist!

Howie, I had the same problem over a year ago. Garmin even knows that there is a 'glitch' for sure if you have Mapsource open and try to do the download from there. I went to the Garmin website, searched for updates there, downloaded the update and no problem. Garmin must have some ex-moco execs working there I think!

Guess Garmin just made a fibber of me. Went to Mapsource and software download and worked fine. But that new 6.14.1 looks a lot different and responds much slower that the previous version. More resolution I guess.

Hoist! · « **Reply #22 on:** August 01, 2008, 09:27:11 AM »

Quote from: ultrafxr on August 01, 2008, 09:18:46 AM

Howie, I had the same problem over a year ago. Garmin even knows that there is a 'glitch' for sure if you have Mapsource open and try to do the download from there. I went to the Garmin website, searched for updates there, downloaded the update and no problem. Garmin must have some ex-moco execs working there I think!

I know I'm not the most computer literate, but I know how to click on an update button. Glad to hear it wasn't me this time around. Thanks Jerry!

Hoist!

Fired00d · « **Reply #23 on:** August 01, 2008, 06:40:15 PM »

Quote from: Fabulous Furry Freak Bro! on July 31, 2008, 04:15:30 PM

Web Updater seems to be for the Zumo. The Update for Mapsource is in Help in Mapsource. There's a 6.14.1.0 update available and it won't install. After it downloads, I get this error: "Invalid command line parameter (restart)." This pops up in a Window called "WinZip Self Extractor". It closes Mapsource and opens that window. Then click OK and everything's closed with no action taken. The update must be dowmloaded because when I try again, it only takes 2 secs for that, instead of the minute or so it took to download the first time. Friggin' computers! What am I doing wrong? All i did was click update!

Hoist!

The update feature in Mapsource doesn't work you have to download the updates directly from Garmin.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

Hoist! · « **Reply #24 on:** August 01, 2008, 06:43:27 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on August 01, 2008, 06:40:15 PM

The update feature in Mapsource doesn't work you have to download the updates directly from Garmin.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

See, that was the purpose for this post yesterday:

"Posted on: Yesterday at 02:19:53 PMPosted by: Fabulous Furry Freak Bro!

Where's Gary when you need him?"

Hoist!

Fired00d · « **Reply #25 on:** August 01, 2008, 06:46:31 PM »

Quote from: Fabulous Furry Freak Bro! on August 01, 2008, 06:43:27 PM

See, that was the purpose for this post yesterday:

"Posted on: Yesterday at 02:19:53 PMPosted by: Fabulous Furry Freak Bro!

Where's Gary when you need him?"

Hoist!

Yea I saw that. Sorry I couldn't be here to help.

You know well how it is when you start a new position/job.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

Hoist! · « **Reply #26 on:** August 01, 2008, 06:50:31 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on August 01, 2008, 06:46:31 PM

Yea I saw that. Sorry I couldn't be here to help. You know well how it is when you start a new position/job.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

No problem at all Gary, just playin with ya! Between messing around with it, and others here, I got to figure it out for myself this time. I actually found the link for all the updates on the Zumo Forum, and downloaded everything all by myself! Our little boy's growing up!..........................NOT!!!!!

Hoist!

Fired00d · « **Reply #27 on:** August 01, 2008, 06:53:48 PM »

Quote from: Fabulous Furry Freak Bro! on August 01, 2008, 06:50:31 PM

No problem at all Gary, just playin with ya! Between messing around with it, and others here, I got to figure it out for myself this time. I actually found the link for all the updates on the Zumo Forum, and downloaded everything all by myself! Our little boy's growing up!..........................NOT!!!!!

Hoist!

Good job, after all..................... it's not "Rocket Science".

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

Hoist! · « **Reply #28 on:** August 01, 2008, 06:55:12 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on August 01, 2008, 06:53:48 PM

Good job, after all..................... it's not "Rocket Science".

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

Chit man, to me it kinda is! Give me a motor to mess with any day!

Hoist!

porthole · « **Reply #29 on:** August 01, 2008, 08:37:31 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on August 01, 2008, 06:40:15 PM

The update feature in Mapsource doesn't work you have to download the updates directly from Garmin.

Huh?

whats up there guru?

porthole · « **Reply #30 on:** August 01, 2008, 08:40:12 PM »

Quote from: ultrafxr on August 01, 2008, 09:18:46 AM

Guess Garmin just made a fibber of me. Went to Mapsource and software download and worked fine. But that new 6.14.1 looks a lot different and responds much slower that the previous version. More resolution I guess.

Have you checked the detail level? Set it much above medium and it really slows the system down.

Fired00d · « **Reply #31 on:** August 01, 2008, 08:43:01 PM »

Quote from: porthole on August 01, 2008, 08:37:31 PM

Huh?

whats up there guru?

The update in Mapsource has never worked it gives error messages when you try to use it. You have to download the update directly from the Garmin site.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

Fired00d · « **Reply #32 on:** August 01, 2008, 08:46:45 PM »

Quote from: porthole on August 01, 2008, 08:40:12 PM

Have you checked the detail level? Set it much above medium and it really slows the system down.

It's more then that. For some reason the newest update requires a really fast computer/processor (as noted here on the Zumo Forum) and has caused problems on some computers.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

porthole · « **Reply #33 on:** August 01, 2008, 09:02:14 PM »

Quote from: Fired00d on August 01, 2008, 08:43:01 PM

The update in Mapsource has never worked it gives error messages when you try to use it. You have to download the update directly from the Garmin site.

Never had a problem, always did the update from the help window except when changing computers.

Fired00d · « **Reply #34 on:** August 01, 2008, 09:07:10 PM »

Quote from: porthole on August 01, 2008, 09:02:14 PM

Never had a problem, always did the update from the help window except when changing computers.

Consider yourself one of the few/lucky ones this is a known bug... (quote below from Garmin Zūmo® GPS Wiki)

Quote

Mapsource & the Zumo

[Q] If I select /Help / check on software updates (in Mapsource), it does not give me the latest version
[A] This function does not work properly in Mapsource (bug). Best thing is to get the latest version from the Garmin.com website http://www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=209 or
http://www8.garmin.com/support/download.jsp and install it manually.

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

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