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CVO Technical => Drive Train => Topic started by: spence on August 17, 2020, 06:46:52 AM

Title: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: spence on August 17, 2020, 06:46:52 AM
So the new CVO's come with traction control, wasn't sure exactly what it was supposed to do but I knew when in the rain you could turn it on.  I bought mine in Oct of last year, a little over 8200 miles so far and this past weekend I finally remembered I had it and decided to turn it on as we were coming down from the mountains in the rain.  The result?  I will never turn it on again, going around bends it felt like I was riding over wet tar snakes, thought at first it was just that bend so left it on for a few more curves and each time I could feel the back-end get very squirrly, even the Mrs could feel it and I had to really slow down on curves.  I turned it off once I realize it had to be the traction control since I have ridden that road numerous times with no issues, I knew my tires were good and the pressure was good.  The rest of the ride down the mountain was just as it always used to be for me, much more stable and enjoyable.  For me the traction control is an epic fail.  Anyone else try it?
Title: Re: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: DOCGSS on August 18, 2020, 08:39:39 AM
Are you speaking of the Rain mode? Traction control is always on unless you disable it.
Title: Re: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: spence on August 19, 2020, 06:21:48 AM
Yes the rain mode
Title: Re: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: DOCGSS on August 19, 2020, 08:02:13 AM
I have not had that problem.
Title: Re: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: grc on August 19, 2020, 11:56:39 AM
Could be Harley assumed people would slow down in the rain coming down a mountain?  ;D

Traction control on a two wheeled conveyance will never be as good as it is on a four wheeled vehicle, not even close, so I do wonder why they bothered.  Of course there are other bikes that have it, and I'm going to assume based on the various levels of engineering talent that anything from BMW and Honda would be head and shoulders above Harley.  If this effort is like all the other efforts at Harley to adopt "new only to them" technology, it will take years for them to get it right.  I understand limiting torque in slippery conditions with throttle control and light applications of the rear brake, but I'm not sure how they are trying to control side slippage induced strictly by cornering too fast for conditions. I do know chopping throttle and hitting the rear brake isn't the answer, from way back in the day when I learned that lesson the hard way.

Jerry
Title: Re: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: Bobs14Limited on August 19, 2020, 08:52:33 PM
I have not had that problem.


Me either. He should have it checked out at the dealer.
Title: Re: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: spence on August 20, 2020, 06:21:40 AM
Im going to make an appointment next week to have it looked at.
Title: Re: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: timo482 on August 20, 2020, 07:30:21 PM
im pretty sure its always ON.. and the button turns it OFF...

but i could be wrong..
Title: Re: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: rigidthumper on August 21, 2020, 03:12:39 PM
im pretty sure its always ON.. and the button turns it OFF...

but i could be wrong..
^^^What he said^^^
Title: Re: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: DOCGSS on August 21, 2020, 04:04:03 PM
Traction control is always on unless you turn it off. But you can switch between rain mode and normal also.
Title: Re: 2020 CVO Limited Traction Control
Post by: timo482 on August 21, 2020, 06:43:24 PM
im kind of thinking, he turned it off in the rain and it got loose.. the new bikes have twice the HP as evo's did....