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GP Designs Bearing Support---Positive Byproduct
« on: July 14, 2008, 01:14:07 AM »

If you've got the bearing support here's a little FYI worth keeping in the back of your mind.  If your compensator nut comes loose the pieces can't go as far.

Had the red bike out this afternoon and early evening.  Ran fine.  A boatload.  Lots of two lanes.  Lots of two lanes with one lane bridges.  Those kinds of roads.  Opened it up more than once when the roads got long though.  No issues at all.  Just short of 400 miles on the day.  One of those nice easy days in gorgeous weather to play in.

Pulled in the garage at home and heard a tick.  Not terrible.  But some.  And definitely down there. 

Went out about 11:15 after other chores were done for the evening and pulled the primary.  Sure enough.  Loose as hell.  I changed the transmission a couple of months ago.  So I obviously screwed up.  No harm of any kind so at this point I could care less.  It's sure as hell tight now.

But it hadn't dawned on me until I pulled the cover away that with the bearing support in place nothing can really go anyplace.  The extra support parts extend out far enough and cage the nut so that even if the nut is completely loose (and it was) it can only rub on the primary. 

I don't think it's possible for a loose compensator to screw up a crankshaft with the bearing support in place.  The compensator itself can't even move enough to really make much difference to how it feels under a load or coming off a load.

In any case it's fixed.  Fortunately had an extra primary gasket hanging on the wall so it's all buttoned back up and full of fluid again.  Silly regular repairs aren't normally topic worthy.  But the side benefit of the bearing support I'd just never thought of before and thought worth sharing.
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2008, 06:39:34 AM »

That was why I started "The Domino Effect" thread a while back.

Sometimes things we do to our scoots have a positive outcome also :2vrolijk_21:

I have the GP design crank support on all my scoots, and when discussing this with some mechanics, we thought the same thing...the comp nut is going to come loose at some point in time, depending on riding habbits. Why not install one so when it does come loose, it wont tear everything up in the process.

A little cheap....well not so cheap....insurance :2vrolijk_21:


ps....locktite Don :nixweiss:
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Re: GP Designs Bearing Support---Positive Byproduct
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2008, 06:55:46 AM »


ps....locktite Don :nixweiss:


My first thought was I'd forgotten the Loctite.  But there was a good dose to be cleaned off the threads so I'd used it.  Been about 2800 miles since the prior assembly.  So who knows :nixweiss: .

Nothing was hurt.  So I'm really not going to give it a moment's thought.  Sure glad the bearing support was there though.

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Re: GP Designs Bearing Support---Positive Byproduct
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2008, 08:36:15 AM »

so you took the new - old red bike for a great days worth of riding and ignored the old - new red bike - shameful  :'(
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2008, 09:55:11 PM »

so you took the new - old red bike for a great days worth of riding and ignored the old - new red bike - shameful  :'(

Porthole, not by any grand plan but they've been collecting roughly equal miles.  A really fun day was a couple weeks ago.  Left here bright and early one morning just generally screwing around going thataway > .

Half a day later was still just generally screwing around going thisaway < .  So as I passed by where I started I swapped bikes.  Each one got ridden five or six hours that day.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 09:40:05 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 06:27:24 AM »

That was why I started "The Domino Effect" thread a while back.

Sometimes things we do to our scoots have a positive outcome also :2vrolijk_21:

I have the GP design crank support on all my scoots, and when discussing this with some mechanics, we thought the same thing...the comp nut is going to come loose at some point in time, depending on riding habbits. Why not install one so when it does come loose, it wont tear everything up in the process.

A little cheap....well not so cheap....insurance :2vrolijk_21:


ps....locktite Don :nixweiss:

Found one for 284.99 - good price??
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 09:05:25 AM »

Found one for 284.99 - good price??

Damn good price!. That's below dealers cost.

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 09:15:57 AM »

I had a loose nut ruin my first crank. Put the bearing support in while it was apart. One more reason to like the GP support. ;D
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2008, 10:30:37 AM »

Found one for 284.99 - good price??

Be forewarned just a little Sean.  Among the group here several are using these.  Most without issue.  But it's not universal.  A couple I can remember removed the unit after installation due to a vibration they felt. 

Potentially a small bit of crank runout no longer absorbed by the compensator as it might have been before?  No one really knew for sure.  But before you spend the $$$ just know they've been good but not perfectly accepted.
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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2008, 11:04:56 AM »

Be forewarned just a little Sean.  Among the group here several are using these.  Most without issue.  But it's not universal.  A couple I can remember removed the unit after installation due to a vibration they felt. 

Potentially a small bit of crank runout no longer absorbed by the compensator as it might have been before?  No one really knew for sure.  But before you spend the $$$ just know they've been good but not perfectly accepted.

It's gone - Dennis Kirk was showing one and someone beat me to it...

Oh well.

Adding it to my have to check on a recurring basis maintenance list.
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2008, 08:00:30 PM »

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Ah, I understand.  Have to admit after enjoying a couple of thisaway < and thataway > days between the bikes it's not a bad way to spend a day.  So far it seems to keep them both happy too.  A garage with little or no drama is a happy garage.
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Re: GP Designs Bearing Support---Positive Byproduct
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2008, 08:40:21 PM »

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That's normally something you would say Don.  Either you or Duane taught each other well.  For once, I knew what he was saying right then.  Normally, I'm slow to catch on.    :cherry:

You're dating 2 gals that live under the same roof and share the same room, what did you expect.   :nixweiss:   :)
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