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[Highjagger]

James, why don't you just purchase a non-cat head pipe from HD and swap out the cat header. Much easier than what you propose to do and that way, you have the cat equipped head pipe should you ever have to bring the bike in for emission testing?

That`s the way 

[jaymedic44]

Steve will only have your pipe for a day or two and the cost is one fifth the cost of a new pipe.

[jamesrgarner]

Does anyone have an idea what a non-cat head pipe will cost if it buy it from HD?

[32Lager]

James, why don't you just purchase a non-cat head pipe from HD and swap out the cat header. Much easier than what you propose to do and that way, you have the cat equipped head pipe should you ever have to bring the bike in for emission testing?

This is good advice too. You never know what's going to happen with inspection requirements. I was fortunate to find someone willing to part with their header pipes so I can keep mine original. With spring almost here, it's a good time to call some dealers to see if they've swapped out any 09 touring exhausts. You might find a cheap set ?

[1abastarsmda]

James,
A core bit won't remove all the catalytic converter, just half of it. There's a thread somewhere on the forum where Steve at Fullsac explains this, posted pics and offers help. If you don't have the tools, I'd recommend removing your header pipes and sending them to Steve. He'll cut them in half, clean out both sides and weld them back up for you. I just did a set yesterday that was core drilled and here's a picture of it right after I cut the header.

So that's what my pipes looked like inside.  I heard from MikeH regarding the cat removal and he said that the section that was drilled out already was more difficult to clean out completely than the part that wasn't touched previously.  So, my take on that is that if you are going to remove the cats, it may be better to forget drilling and just cut it apart and clean it all out from the inside after it's cut apart.

[fourstar]

Does anyone have an idea what a non-cat head pipe will cost if it buy it from HD?

Part number is 66848-09.  You can get it from Zanotti HD in PA for $314.  There are several on ebay that look like they will go in the $150. to $200 range if you can stand the aggravation. 

[Highjagger]

From a german dealer , the price for the 66848-09 would be 782,73 Euro ( 991 USD ) 

[dartman]

There is no question that if your seeking absolute total performance that cutting the pipe or replaceing with a 96 pipe is the best way to go, on the other hand if you already own a core drill as I did, 0 dollars expended and 15 minutes to drill the core made a very noticeable improvement and judgeing from some of the lower rpm dyno runs ive seen, at 4,000 rpms or below where I do 90% of my riding  your bike will not know the difference.

[jamesrgarner]

Highjagger:
I think I'll pass on the German part - good thing we live in the good old US of A.

[Highjagger]

HeHe , you do good so , i guess .

[FLSTFI Dave]

Part number is 66848-09.  You can get it from Zanotti HD in PA for $314.  There are several on ebay that look like they will go in the $150. to $200 range if you can stand the aggravation. 

The ones I have seen are all over 200 now.

I was biding on one, had a 100 bid, some clown bid 150, then two hours later with no other bids he bids 175.  Then some one else bid 200, and now the first guy is up to 210.

I stopped at 200.....

[Highjagger]

Time is money , this time it`s vice versa .

[flyingwillie]

You can check with you local dealers.  People are now taking off the stock 96" headers since V&H are finally shipping the super duelies.  My dealer SM put me in touch with a guy and I bought his for $100.  Even though I bought the core drill bit I decided that was not the way to go.  Anyone want one?

[FLSTFI Dave]

You can check with you local dealers.  People are now taking off the stock 96" headers since V&H are finally shipping the super duelies.  My dealer SM put me in touch with a guy and I bought his for $100.  Even though I bought the core drill bit I decided that was not the way to go.  Anyone want one?

I check with three local dealers very often....

One, promises me first take of some one leaves at the dealer will be mine.

[flyingwillie]

Here are my dyno results today......replaced cat stock headers with a set of 09 96" stock headers(ie no cat. converter) installed the SSERT and hi flo breather.  Have Bub 7 muffs.
Max Power= 92.45
Max Torque= 108.78
A/F @ 13.78

I only took the bike for a short ride but sound was better for sure and it just seemed "unrestricted" but I am sure that is just me knowing it is..ie no cat.
I will try to get some road miles in tomorrrow to check more details.....heat, etc.