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Had one of these lights in hand the last few days.  Was surprised (only in comparison to the dual bulb halogens we're all used to) that both projectors didn't light up in high beam mode.

Thought about using a cheapie little rectifying diode and making a circuit to get both projectors on in high beam.  But before messing with it sent an email to the OE asking if the light was programmed to work that way even if power was sent to both high beam and low beam.

No need waste time making the little circuit change should anyone ever feel so inclined.  Mftr's tech support said the light control module inside the assembly will default to high beam if power is fed up both the high beam and low beam sides at the same time.  So there's a mod you don't need to waste your time with.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 09:31:21 PM »

Other than that, what's your opinion of the HD LED headlight?

Good?

Lousy?

The Most Wonderful Light ever?

Pie?


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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 09:34:57 PM »

Other than that, what's your opinion of the HD LED headlight?

Good?

Lousy?

The Most Wonderful Light ever?

Pie?





Wasn't on my bike.   Was part of several chores doing to Travis's new green bike.  From an appearance perspective I really like the black version.  Am assuming I'd like the other one too but haven't seen on in person.  So can't say.

Travis says it was really good at night for the one little hop he'd had it on when we spoke.  But, again, I didn't ride it.  103 wrote that his was better than his HID (the Harley HID) in a direct before and after comparison.  Tommy said good things about his also.  So the concensus so far seems to be that it definitely does not suck.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 09:42:38 PM »

Thanks.

Saw them on a Moco display in Daytona at bike week.  Looked very good but not in a "real" environment. 

Appearance beats the Kury version hands down, especially the headlight.  Good to know it performs well. Have seen a couple of these on other bikes coming toward me - light looks clean & bright.

The price sucks, my opinion.  With passing lamps, list knocks a grand in the head, almost.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 11:08:03 PM »

The LED's are so much better than the stock lights it's not funny. For a bike that costs almost $40k they should come standard. They are pricey, you just have to decide if it's worth it to you.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 11:18:09 PM »



Don

The LED's are very impressive.
I did a LED demo session on the Riders Edge field about a month ago.
Two 2011 Street Glides, one with the factory light, the other with the LED.
No comparison with both on low beam. The LED equipped bike had more light on low than the standard light on high beam.
What impressed me was the light spread from the LED on low beam.
Like Mike said, the price sucks and until it comes down I'll stay home at night.

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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 01:26:22 AM »



No comparison with both on low beam. The LED equipped bike had more light on low than the standard light on high beam.
What impressed me was the light spread from the LED on low beam.
Like Mike said, the price sucks and until it comes down I'll stay home at night.

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That width of projection was something I immediately noticed on Travis's bike.  The spread from those side projectors really was impressive.  Could live without spotlights with that spread.

The price is high.  The 20% off shops are around $420 if I remember right.  When the HIDs first came out with the digital ballasts the kits were close to that.  The red bike at the time, however, was just dangerous to ride at night.  So I sprung for what was the only option at the time that was sure to make it good.  But I do ride at night some (enjoy it).  So the safety from the improved light wasn't just a conceit.

As much as the cost of this LED light is a consideration I've been significantly surprised by something relative to that cost.  A company called JW Speaker is the OE for the light.  They sell the same light (or at least a very close approximation of it) themselves.  That light and its siblings in their product line are marketed to over the road truckers, military applications and other places where good and/or heavy duty equipment is a necessity.  Harley sells it cheaper.  Even at Harley MSRP the light is significantly cheaper than dealers for Speaker offer the light to the other markets.

Speaker had products that were comparable to the the dual bulb Halogen reflector on the SEUCs and in the P&A book and a few other pieces we'd find familiar.  None of those seem to have the price variation that this one does.  Can't help but wonder which happened: Did Harley swing a significant deal in the purchase contract for these lights or did Harley buy some "lesser" version of the light than the Mftr. is offering to other markets?
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 09:15:59 AM »

For those of you interested in the HD LED 7" lamp and 4" passing lights.  There was a thread about 2 weeks ago with a guy that installed the light on his Krypto SESG.  He installed the black headlamp, he has pictures with the lights on, and off.  I liked it so much that I was went out and bought the headlamp and passing lights in black for my FLHTCUSE5 BLK.  I called several dealers and had a couple do searches for me.  I finally found Las Vegas HD that had 5 lamps, and 2 sets of passing lamps.  They gave me a 10% discount and the entire set cost $834 shipped.  I haven't installed them yet because my bike has been at the shop for a hydrallic clutch leak.  As soon as i get it back i plan to install the lights and i will post pictures and start a new thread.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 09:36:12 AM »

A member on this forum had his new Limited converted completly (driving lights and all) over to LED lights.  Definately a huge improvement over stock!  However, on low beam, not quite equal to the HID next to it.....same goes for high beam.

Also, on our way back from Los Angeles last weekend, we noticed that his lights all seemed to have a sort of yellowish/greenish glow to them.  Then later in the day (couple hundred miles further) the one driving light seemed to be the bright white again. :nixweiss:
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 09:59:43 AM »

I had HID's on the road king and now the HD LED headlamp on Kermit.  I've only been out at night a couple of times on the new bike but my first impression is the HID's throw more light out in front of the bike, the LED's put out more side to side light.  Not sure what a set of HID's would cost now, but when I bought mine, it was basically the same amount I paid for the HD LED headlamp.  However, I believe the LED should outlast the HID's.  I had a ballast go out on my HID's and luckly Don had a replacement on hand or else I'd been down waiting on a new one, plus the expense of getting a replacement part.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2011, 10:12:07 AM »

I had HID's on the road king and now the HD LED headlamp on Kermit.  I've only been out at night a couple of times on the new bike but my first impression is the HID's throw more light out in front of the bike, the LED's put out more side to side light.  Not sure what a set of HID's would cost now, but when I bought mine, it was basically the same amount I paid for the HD LED headlamp.  However, I believe the LED should outlast the HID's.  I had a ballast go out on my HID's and luckly Don had a replacement on hand or else I'd been down waiting on a new one, plus the expense of getting a replacement part.

Inside a fairing where there's plenty of room either install isn't any real trouble.  Inside a nacelle, like on a Road King or some of the Softails, the LED with it's simple one plug hookup would be nice though.  Shoe horning a couple of ballasts and igniters inside a nacelle makes it crowded.
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2011, 12:57:01 PM »

Has anyone installed the HID lights from Hendric?
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2011, 01:27:52 PM »

For those of you interested in the HD LED 7" lamp and 4" passing lights.  There was a thread about 2 weeks ago with a guy that installed the light on his Krypto SESG.  He installed the black headlamp, he has pictures with the lights on, and off.  I liked it so much that I was went out and bought the headlamp and passing lights in black for my FLHTCUSE5 BLK.  I called several dealers and had a couple do searches for me.  I finally found Las Vegas HD that had 5 lamps, and 2 sets of passing lamps.  They gave me a 10% discount and the entire set cost $834 shipped.  I haven't installed them yet because my bike has been at the shop for a hydrallic clutch leak.  As soon as i get it back i plan to install the lights and i will post pictures and start a new thread.
As an addendum you also have to splice the garage door opener back in to the old style plug after you take out the stock halogen rig( on the Ultra anyway)
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2011, 02:41:23 PM »

As an addendum you also have to splice the garage door opener back in to the old style plug after you take out the stock halogen rig( on the Ultra anyway)

I was afraid of that?  I haven't had the chance to install my LED's yet.  I know that i had to order a splitter for my bike because I have the dual halogen lamp with separate plugs.  I had to order a 2 into 1 plug harness for the LED set up.  I was hoping that i would not lose the garage door opener as a result?  After all, the original plug and harness remains, this harness connects to the separate high & low beem on the current dual halogen set up and brings it down to a single.  Good information, though, hopefully you are wrong?
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Re: Harley's New LED Headlight--A Mod Not to Do--Dual Beam Illumination
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2011, 03:11:05 PM »

I was afraid of that?  I haven't had the chance to install my LED's yet.  I know that i had to order a splitter for my bike because I have the dual halogen lamp with separate plugs.  I had to order a 2 into 1 plug harness for the LED set up.  I was hoping that i would not lose the garage door opener as a result?  After all, the original plug and harness remains, this harness connects to the separate high & low beem on the current dual halogen set up and brings it down to a single.  Good information, though, hopefully you are wrong?

Harlet offers a Y plug adapter you could use to avoid splicing.  Most good auto parts stores have H4 type headlight plugs that could be used to make something also.  Even if not using either of those options simple T tsps could be used against the stock wires to avoid actually cutting and splicing if that's a worry. 
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