Here's what they look like installed...
Funny you mention that. I removed it after I took that picture.
If I say pretty please will you post a picture of rear WITHOUT the fugly reflector ?
If I say pretty please will you post a picture of rear WITHOUT the fugly reflector ?
It's night in Chicago, so this was as good as I could get. Enjoy...
jeeeez, he didn't even stay logged on the see the pic!!...I myself had no doubt of its subsequent postI was waiting to get my real tag to give me a reason pull the reflector. That thing has been driving me crazy. What a piece of junk. $31K bike and they stick that cheap crap on it. I've taken the ones off of my saddlebags off as well. I still need to get the reflectors on the shocks. That glue is a pain in the @$$.
nice tag bracket Jim...and I see ya got your real tag too...cool
Where abouts are you Jim? I grew up in Wilmette on the North Shore...
And great write-ups! Awesome contributions to the site! :2vrolijk_21:
I live in the South Loop area of the City close to McCormick Place.
Wilmette is nice. I ride up that way all of the time. It's beautiful up there.
Great Job on the pics and all. What size baffles did you install? How's the sound? I'm running supertrapp slip ons UCSE3, nice low deep rumble. What's next dyno time?
I'm out in the West Suburbs, maybe we can meet some where for a burger and beer some day.
Here's a video of my pipe changes. The video steps through the stock pipes, the stock pipes without the catalytic converter and finally the beautiful sound of the v-twin and fullsac 1 3/4" baffles. You need good speakers to listen to this, but it's night and day difference from stock.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCByoE3T_bo
Here's my Radio Shack sound meter details:
Idle with cat: 93db - w/o cat: 96db - w/fullsac baffles: 100db
2K RPM with cat: 102db - w/o cat: 100db - w/fullsac baffles: 103db
3K RPM with cat: 96db - w/o cat: 101db - w/fullsac baffles: 107db
4K RPM with cat: 104db - w/o cat: 105db - w/fullsac baffles: 110db
5K RPM with cat: 102db - w/o cat: 106db - w/fullsac baffles: 109db
The pipes now have a lot more base, but the volume is not intrusive at all. I can still hear the radio and it doesn't set off car alarms when I drive by. I'm going to Dyno next week. We'll soon see what difference the pipe changes have actually made.
Where are you having your dyno tune done?
How will this effect the PCM? To my understanding a Power Commander program is not available for the 09 at this time.
The wait for a Power Commander program is killing me. Can't wait to get started. :-\
Thanks, for all your help
I greatly appreciate everthing you have been doing, the write ups, pics and videos are great and helpfull. This is my first CVO and I'm a little concerned about the effect of these changes on the warranty, especially the extended warranty. What is your thought on the moco giving a fellow grief for a claim on a bike that has these things done. Also are you planning on keeping this bike for a long time and did you purchase the extended warranty?
Jim, you have a PM...oh the pitfalls of bein' a smart guy ;)
HEY! I never got one of those! :D
You're going to start getting them now. The sub and the V&H's are going to put you on everyone's list. :oops:
I was able to rent one at the local rental shop. Give that a try.You rented a coring bit?
Yes, but the cost was almost as much as buying one. But they had it.
Not to say that I would actually rent or buy one of those things and drill my cc out....that would be against the law.
54 Posts before the lights finally come on.
B B
I've been thinking that the whole time. Wouldn't take much to run it down for some fines and whatnot would it? :o :P
Not sure about every state, but IL does not require emission testing on motorcycles. You can't be fined by another state for emission issues even if they have stringent legal requirements. Emission standars are enforced where the bike is titled. From what I can gather form the EPA regs is that except for California, motorcycles aren't required to have cats until 2010.
Conspiracy to commit a crime carries the same sentence as actually commiting it in most states, and the fact that you crossed state lines in your conspiracy makes it a Federal offense - - - - which of course is actually a good thing since the Federal prison system is far far superior to that of your home state Illinois . And California - - - - - -fuhgedaboutit, you don't even want to think about being a guest of the CDC
FTC!!! You guys are funny! Just cause you don't drill em out, doesn't mean ya ain't violating something with every set of pipes A/C and dyno tune ya'll have been doing for years!!! Now ya GAS about drilling cats?!! Funny stuff!!! FTC!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
Hoist! 8)
FTC!!! You guys are funny! Just cause you don't drill em out, doesn't mean ya ain't violating something with every set of pipes A/C and dyno tune ya'll have been doing for years!!! Now ya GAS about drilling cats?!! Funny stuff!!! FTC!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
Hoist! 8)
There are 1000's of posts on this site discussing illegal headlights, illegal exhaust systems (including Rinehart True Duals, V&H, Fullsac, etc), illegal race tuners, etc. The entire site is successful because it is a place that we can openly discuss modifying our motorcycles. Even if some of those modifications are not legal everywhere in the world. After 50+ post on the subject we get someone that takes a high-road on a cat removal of all things? Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but what kills me is that this comment is form an admin that participates in virtually every one of the discussions on this board. Give me a break !!
There are 1000's of posts on this site discussing illegal headlights, illegal exhaust systems (including Rinehart True Duals, V&H, Fullsac, etc), illegal race tuners, etc. The entire site is successful because it is a place that we can openly discuss modifying our motorcycles. Even if some of those modifications are not legal everywhere in the world. After 50+ post on the subject we get someone that takes a high-road on a cat removal of all things? Everyone has the right to their own opinion, but what kills me is that this comment is form an admin that participates in virtually every one of the discussions on this board including the illegal ones. Give me a break !!Who/What admin?? :confused5:
Who/What admin?? :confused5:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
You're right. Didn't realize that until after I posted it.Ok, that's kewl. :2vrolijk_21: I (we) get blamed for enough as it is. ;D
Who/What admin?? :confused5:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
Where good friends gather to have fun, you will always find someone who shows up, to "Rain on the Parade"!
Once again I fall victim to posting something as a joke that nobody gets
Sorry everyone, but my entire post regarding legal issues was tongue in cheek.
We don't by the way have a tongue in cheek emoticon - - - - I checked
One would hope that after 8,000 posts, somebody would have figured me out by now.
Again, sorry for the ruffled feathers
B B
HeHe!!! Funny Gary! Not one admin post in the entire thread! But it's fun to blame ya anyway!!! ;D :2vrolijk_21:
It's still strange that anyone who participates here, is seriously concerned about making a muffler mod on a performance motorcycle!!! No way could it be a serious post. But leave it to B B to throw the slammer into the mix!!! ;D ;D ;D :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
Hoist! 8)
Once again I fall victim to posting something as a joke that nobody gets
Sorry everyone, but my entire post regarding legal issues was tongue in cheek.
We don't by the way have a tongue in cheek emoticon - - - - I checked
One would hope that after 8,000 posts, somebody would have figured me out by now.
Again, sorry for the ruffled feathers
B B
Hell Howie, I've got more friends on the inside than the outside
I'm trying to even it up here.
B B
Wow, I was worried we were all going to the slammer for a muffler violation!!! Would they do that in ME? :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
Hoist! 8)
Actually yes. My friends the Reynolds family that owns Big Moose H-D and Augusta H-D tells me they get reminded on a regular basis by the Maine State Police regarding Maine law on the subject. Since Maine has a vehicle inspection law, if a dealership loses it's Inspection Station license, they're screwed. If I can manage to pull off buying a new 09 SERG in Maine, it will retain the stock exhaust until I see how harda$$ the MSP is on this issue.
B B
One would hope that after 8,000 posts, somebody would have figured me out by now.
B B
Actually yes. My friends the Reynolds family that owns Big Moose H-D and Augusta H-D tells me they get reminded on a regular basis by the Maine State Police regarding Maine law on the subject. Since Maine has a vehicle inspection law, if a dealership loses it's Inspection Station license, they're screwed. If I can manage to pull off buying a new 09 SERG in Maine, it will retain the stock exhaust until I see how harda$$ the MSP is on this issue.
Enough Said.... Now Let It Go!
Let what go ?
Huh ??????????????
Just posting away as usual. Do you do the above to Howie, d00d, and a 100 other members that have Sienfeld posts ?
B B
PS
Jim
I bought a 97 Caddy Deville in super shape to leave in Maine. I am registering it in Maine to the address of the summer home on Sebago Lake because California says I have to bring it back here and have it smogged to register it even if it never sees CA. Maine on the other hand will allow a seasonal resident to register a vehicle. Your post however has me thinking I will register the new H-D in Cal even though it will stay in Maine since there is no smog test yet on motorcycles in CA. Not sure, but I don't think Maine can hold a vehicle with out of state plates to their inspection standards - - - can they ?
FTC!!! You guys are funny! Just cause you don't drill em out, doesn't mean ya ain't violating something with every set of pipes A/C and dyno tune ya'll have been doing for years!!! Now ya GAS about drilling cats?!! Funny stuff!!! FTC!!! :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:
Hoist! 8)
Maine on the other hand will allow a seasonal resident to register a vehicle. Your post however has me thinking I will register the new H-D in Cal even though it will stay in Maine since there is no smog test yet on motorcycles in CA. Not sure, but I don't think Maine can hold a vehicle with out of state plates to their inspection standards - - - can they ?
Your post however has me thinking I will register the new H-D in Cal even though it will stay in Maine since there is no smog test yet on motorcycles in CA. Not sure, but I don't think Maine can hold a vehicle with out of state plates to their inspection standards - - - can they ?
If it's a 49 state bike you wouldn't be able to register it in California Brian. At least not until it got 7500 miles on it.
well Jim, i have been following your antics for a bit now and I thank you for supplying the Knowledge. I too have an 09 FLTRSE3, but mine is the stardust/pewter model. My 2" fullsacs came yesterday and tonight we wrench. but my Q is if I don't drill the cats now can I do just as ez later. I got a big ride tomorrow and i don't want to start something I can't finish tonight.
Also, if, and when I core the cats out, what are the chances I'll need a fuel Management system? Pulled the plugs at 1200 and they looked great, but I want to change to NGK. my thoughts are cut the cats, run for 1k, then re-look at the plugs.
I am originally from Chicago, south side, but now Im in Tennessee. wanna buy a snow shovel and some rock salt?
Stopped at a local dealership, old friend of mine named Bubba, how can you go wrong with that. He was drooling over my bike. End result was, do whatever you want, but after you drill out the cats bring it in for a super tuner and dyno. he said not to wait long as he has seen problems when people wait TILL they have problems, and then bring it in. He said the whole kit and kaboodle would be about 1k. And he is the only dealer in TN certified to do it so far.
But the Fullsacs are a GO this week.
Jim, what's the part # for the correct Race Tuner that will fit on our bikes? Want to order one on-line but need the part # and I don't want to srew it up and get a wrong model 9If there is such a thing. Let's Roll
You need to order these parts form a H-D dealer:
32109-08A - Super SERT Race Tuner
32111-09 - Version 2 of the tuner software
32184-08 - Cable Kit for SE Pro Super Tuner
32111-09 is a computer program that is loaded on a laptop. It is used to program your bikes electronic fuel injection/ignition system. The 32109-08A SERT is a protocol converter that is used to convert your bikes ECM (Electronic Control Module) language to one your computer can understand. The cables are what is used to connect everything together.
Okay, I read every word in this long post and I don't recall seeing anywhere how much the Fullsac cores cost. On their website, the only options I saw were send in your mufflers, buy some already modified, or buy some other muffler that they have, and I don't remember if they mentioned '09's or not. So, how much are they? I assume you have to call them to go this route. Also, it looked like they were recommending the 1 3/4" and the 2" if your motor was built up. Would the 110" be considered built up? Very nice write up by the way. It's broken down step by step and it looks pretty easy when proper instructions are there.Take a look at this thread - Fullsac Performance (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=27481.0) for contact information and discount to CVOHarley members.
hate to ask...is that for the pair or each?
I just finished installing the Fullsac 2.25" baffles and I got to say they are frickin awesome. Cost me $141.10 shipped. Very easy to do thanks to Jim Kerr's step by step illustrated instructions. It's kind of late here so I couldn't open my garage door when I fired her up but you can bet I will let her loose tomorow after the 2 LEO's go to work.
Steve :2vrolijk_21:
I just finished installing the Fullsac 2.25" baffles and I got to say they are frickin awesome. Cost me $141.10 shipped. Very easy to do thanks to Jim Kerr's step by step illustrated instructions. It's kind of late here so I couldn't open my garage door when I fired her up but you can bet I will let her loose tomorow after the 2 LEO's go to work.
Steve :2vrolijk_21:
Have you done anything else to your exhaust or engine yet? Did you remove the Cat Conv? I think this is the first time I saw 2.25" mentioned. Are they louder or deeper than the smaller diameter? I wish I had someone local with these pipes that I could hear. I really liked the V&H True Dual Long Shots on my last bike, but I think the volume was a bit excessive. This sounds like a very inexpensive route to and it would also give me the satisfaction of knowing that I did them myself. Does going with the bigger size cut back on back pressure? I have so many questions. BTW, nice bike...looks like the one in my garage. Nice choice.
I can get at it much better with the cylinder grinder. I got one to break free, but can't seem to get the other side to break. I took a break and I'll get it finished tonight or tomorrow. No big rush here.
My 2" fullsac's came today. I ordered them Monday, 2 days. Helps to be only 225 miles from Havasu.
After talking to Steve on Monday I decided to cut my exhaust in half and remove the cat 100%. I get home yesterday and low & behold, full instructions with pictures.
Thanks, Mike
I'm following you, I'm doing mine this weekend.
Mike
Make sure you clean up the outlet end, I went in and cut the pipe on the left a little and cleaned it up so I would have a better "divider" in the back. You'll see when you get there...Cant' wait to get mine back today I won't have it on the Dyno till this weekend sometime because of work and while I have mine down, off comes the cam cover and in goes a " Baisley Spring", best $12.95 you will ever invest in a Twin Cam, bumps the Oil Pressure up about 15%, I think it quiets 'em down a little but most importantly you will have good O.P. at a hot idle.... All Good>>>>P.M. me if you need any assistance>>>>Greg
Greg, did you check? I'm not sure you'll need that spring with these newer style oil pumps. That spring was designed for the earlier style OP's. Do they make a special one for the late model OP/camplate setup? :confused5:
Hoist! 8)
Okay gents, I think we need to get a little more scientific here. We need to get someone to post their dyno results with mufflers and air cleaner and no change to the cc, someone with similar setup with upper half of the cc removed, and similar setup with the entire converter removed. It will probably be difficult to find somone with the identical setup and each of the 3 cc situations, but it sure would answer some questions that we would all like to know.
Okay gents, I think we need to get a little more scientific here. We need to get someone to post their dyno results with mufflers and air cleaner and no change to the cc, someone with similar setup with upper half of the cc removed, and similar setup with the entire converter removed. It will probably be difficult to find somone with the identical setup and each of the 3 cc situations, but it sure would answer some questions that we would all like to know.The only way that will be good/relative/compatible information is if all the bikes were run on the same dyno with temps and relative humidity the same. Different dyno's will yield different numbers for the same bike.
Greg, did you check? I'm not sure you'll need that spring with these newer style oil pumps. That spring was designed for the earlier style OP's. Do they make a special one for the late model OP/camplate setup? :confused5:
Hoist! 8)
Hoist, Just got off the phone with Wes and he said, As we know that the new pumps are much better with a higher volume. He said it sure wouldn't hurt anything , Texas summers, 100+ heat... Yea I'm going for it..... Greg.
hhmmmm. I'd move
When I spoke with Steve from Fullsac, he told me to leave the insulation in, as removing it will cause for a tinny sound.
It sounds like, from your last post, that you are trying to find a way to modify the stock baffle, so that you don't have a problem if the police try to put a bar in your exhaust. I don't have the answer, but I thought maybe that interpretation might help someone else come up with an answer for you.
Oh now I see , in reply 14 ( step 15 ) of Jim Kerr`s description you can see how the baffles look inside ,
Is the core closed at the front end that the flow runs through these baffles from outside ,
Could I see a pic of the whole fullsac-core ?
I guess i should have asked the question differently. Would you change the Fulsacs for slip ons or are you happy with the the pipes the way you have changed them. I didn't need the explanaition to the header pipes but I would have changed the entire system if I changed the muffler section.
I don't see the need to change the header pipes on a 2009. The 2 into 1 into 2 system works great. The true duals will kill power, not enhance it, especially true do to the Canadian bikes not having a c/c. If I went to the V&H system I would change to their 2 into 1 into 2 only to match the mufflers, the performance difference of thiers vs. H-D's would be minimal if anything. I guess you really answered my question anyway, The question I asked is; Now that you have had some time with ther Fullsac cores do you still like them or are you conteplating a change? I think you answered that you still like them.
Got it all together and hit the switch. OMG. Can't hear the radio!!! This was in the garage and not the open air outside. I think it has to be louder than the 2:1 Thunderheader I had on my 2003 RoadKing. Might be thinking of going to the 1.75 instead. Then again, more air flow... The baffles look beefy from the rear... BTW the measurement for me was 1 2/8 instead of the suggested measurement. Found that out on the predrill preparations. I did leave in the fiberglass. To try again today and ride around the block. Still rainy conditions, but nothing falling down yet. Thanks again Steve @ Fullsac... I have shared this with my Waipahu HOG group... :pineapple:
Aloha,
Techie
I just started my bike and put my hand behind each muffler. There is plenty coming out of the right side, but the left side has VERY little exhaust being routed that way. I keep thinking that you could plug the left side pipe right where it makes the little bend out of the cat converter chamber, and then slip the left pipe back on and leave it as a dummy pipe. Anyone have thoughts on what this might accomplish? It seems as though it would turn the system into a 2 into 1. Would that yield any positive results?
Talking to two local dealers about muffler changes and both say they will honor the warrinty with any muffler changes, but will not with any mods to the cats on the CVO bikes, or any tunning devices witch they do not install, so for me it looks like my options are limited as I want the warrinty in to stay in tack. I plan on the Fullsac 2 1/4" baffles and if they are not what I want will add the super trapp disc set up to them to quiet them down and If I notice any drop in power also due to lack of back pressure, but I assume with the cats in place I will not have a back pressure problem. I await nightriders 09 ideas and hope he has something like the XIEDs for the 09 110" motors as these leave not trace that they were on the bike. Thanks Doc
Spazz-has anyone informed you that the Canadian CVO's have catalytic converter material in the headpipe?Not so sure. Aren't the Canadian bikes the same as all international models? just pull the right side muffler and look inside the head pipe
Bribe and I know that the SERG's have.
I finally got my done Friday and rode 350 Saturday; it made an amazing difference in power and sound. Now I've got to do something about a tune - I'm thinking about going with a super sert.
Did you photoshop that weld? I can't even see it!
I was going to send my pipe to you if you could weld like that!
Hey Eaglerider,
Tell Mikey that his weld looks better than the factory ones.
Cheers, Ken 8)
Here's the weld . My good friend Mikey showing off his work, a master welder :2vrolijk_21:
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l159/mkantz/FLTRSE3/OpenCatsPostWeld.jpg)
You're friend did a great job. Yesterday my neighbor did the same thing for my pipe. He was an air frame welder for Boeing, and did a great job too.Question, I've heard many hear speak of running in high rpms. I did do this while doing my V-tune session. But if you're running at 4500 rpms, what gear are you in? I'd be causing a sonic boom if I did that
Man the bike sounds so much better with the cat free head pipe, 2.25 fullsac baffels the TTS Master tune with Steve Fullsacs map. It also runs stronger and cooler.
Fullsac is a class act, great service too.
This set up is not as loud as Rinharts in my opnion, but a little deeper. Nice deep low tone at idle, you can hear the stereo at 75 and wind nice is as loud as the pipes. Crack the throttle and they get louder, above 4500rpm they really bark. I am very happy with the sound, seems fitting for a bagger.
Question, I've heard many hear speak of running in high rpms. I did do this while doing my V-tune session. But if you're running at 4500 rpms, what gear are you in? I'd be causing a sonic boom if I did that
Question, I've heard many hear speak of running in high rpms. I did do this while doing my V-tune session. But if you're running at 4500 rpms, what gear are you in? I'd be causing a sonic boom if I did that
It's night in Chicago, so this was as good as I could get. Enjoy...
I hate to be a Nelly, but what about the state safety inspection? Aren't they going to gripe about the reflectors being removed? :nixweiss:
no safety inspection here in TN
So that's why they allow that contraption of yours on the highways?Screamin' Grey Contraption?
Screamin' Grey Contraption?
Funny you mention that. I removed it after I took that picture.
oh, that reflector, need to get under the fender and disassemble the wire housing and slide the light out and remove plastic tab on reflector and then re-assemble. but as long as you're there, why not do this. its a Kury product
Just when you think there is nothing else to do your bike......here comes LarryB with alot more ideas. THANKS lolthink I'll get my camera out today and shoot some more pics
think I'll get my camera out today and shoot some more pics:devil: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
I just bought two Stage 1 Fullsac kits today one for my 09 SERG( Fast Silver) and one for my wifes 09 SERG( Slower Yellow). Thanks to David at Fullsac for his info and handling the sale. Also got the slant tips for the eagles aswell.
LOL I already heard about it from the wife OUCH!!!! :oops:That will teach ya. Ya can't mess with the Yellow bike owners and
I just bought two Stage 1 Fullsac kits today one for my 09 SERG( Fast Silver) and one for my wifes 09 SERG( Slower Yellow). Thanks to David at Fullsac for his info and handling the sale. Also got the slant tips for the eagles aswell.
What do you mean with " Stage1 Fullsac kit " ?
The fullsac cores ?
Or anything else?
Okay, now that I have read all 17 pages of this thread after grinding through the muffler body on the first weld, which tool was finally recommended. I used an 8 in long carbide cutter, which did remove some weld but I went through the muffler body. I can't get the dremel tool into the muffler enough to use either the cutter bit first recommended nor the stone bit recommended further into the thread (page 5 or 6 I think). Someone else recommended a carbide pad, but didn't show it or provide a link to see one. I read where some ground a while and then slept on it, I did that too, just haven't started back up yet. What did everyone who ground through do to cover the hole? Leave it, cover it with the new baffle, fill in weld?
Boy this thread went from baffles to tuning to reflector removal to lowers and speaker mods. Glad no one mentioned windshields in here. I still would like to know which bit, which tool. I am going to look at dremel site, but don't think they make longer bits.
Okay, I am off to Lowe's for the grinding stones that Dartman suggested, and I think I will try to following also:If you cut through slightly on the bottom side, your puncture should be very close to where the hole for the baffle bolt would be located, if your a little off center no one will notice.
Dremel Flex-Shaft Attachment
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=94685-353-225-01&lpage=none
What did everyone who cut through the muffler body do about that?
Heatwave, I would be interested in them. What are you thinkin price wise?
Ron
...I still don't know which size baffle to get. Seems like I read somewhere that the smaller (1.75 inch) baffle resulted in the most torque gain--is that right?
...I still don't know which size baffle to get. Seems like I read somewhere that the smaller (1.75 inch) baffle resulted in the most torque gain--is that right?2in sound great but too loud for my ears on extended trips, I have both I use 1.75 most of the time. Depends on your riding style. 2 in have a nice deep sound but riding two up in the mountains they really hammer your ears on the upgrade.
2in sound great but too loud for my ears on extended trips, I have both I use 1.75 most of the time. Depends on your riding style. 2 in have a nice deep sound but riding two up in the mountains they really hammer your ears on the upgrade.
I am debating between the 1.75 and 2 inch baffles. I'm planning on running stock headers with cc. I don't want a lot of noise, just a bit more rumble than stock. Any advice would be appreciated.
Now I'm waiting for the 2" baffles to arrive in the mail and install them. Can't wait!
Excellent step by step, thanks for your time showing us how to do do this, but I have one question that the old school in me wants to ask. What would it be like if after the baffle was removed a person just put the end cap back on and called it good. I wonder how noise and performance would be changed, it would be a cheap way to make your pipes sound better then stock and obtain more power...I think! :apple:
Excellent step by step, thanks for your time showing us how to do do this, but I have one question that the old school in me wants to ask. What would it be like if after the baffle was removed a person just put the end cap back on and called it good. I wonder how noise and performance would be changed, it would be a cheap way to make your pipes sound better then stock and obtain more power...I think! :apple:you will probably loose some low end torque, with no baffles there's not enough back pressure with just the plate
Got the welds ground down and broken. Can move the baffle forward. Smoothed the pipe ID assuring no ridges that would prevent the baffle from going past the grounded down welds. Baffle still is getting hung up somwhere when trying to knock it out. These are 06 pipes and as you can see by the pic the CAT is in the muffler. You'll also notice that this is where I've been putting the doll rod. Question...Note the edge the arrow is point at. Is that part of the baffle too? I don't think it it because I don't see marks where it has moved only forward. Going back out in the garage this morning to play with it. Last night before I called it a day I hit it with some penetrating fluid.
:2vrolijk_21: Thx HogMike...Top portion of the floor jack handle did the trick. Both pipes are ready for new baffles. Will order the 2" baffles this weekend.
You didn't have the cores already?????
Another trick to keep the drill bit from walking when drilling the 1/4" hole. Put a piece of duct tape on the area your going to drill. Measure the 1.5", mark and punch it (on the tape) and drill. No bit walking at all. I first used a smaller bit and then went to the 1/4.
I just finished installing 2" in 11 CVO mufflers. This post was very valuable!!!So how is the sound? I am fixing to do this mod and need advice on which size to go with
Just wondering did you ever go the fullsac on your bike and if so, which one?yes i did.. easy mod to do. took about 15 mins max to cut the old baffles out. i installed the new 2" fulsac baffles with the white packing that came out with the original baffles. i wanted something a little louder but not to loud as i pull a trailer and the last bike i had had rhinehart 3 1/2 " and it was way to loud with the trailer on the hyway. well after a short ride the new baffles came back out and went back in without the packing, damn near sounded stock with the packing. now it has a louder sound but not to loud so i think it is going to be good with the trailer. i don't think that is as loud as a friends that has 4" rhineharts but it is louder and has a decent sound i think so far. i am going to have a friend ride it soon so i can hear it not riding bike. i had no problems removing the old or drilling for the new and the new ones slid right in twice now with no problems. i do wonder in my head how the 2.25 would sound and some day might get them to see and swap out for trips.