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In the Shop, motor knock
« on: September 29, 2005, 09:54:55 PM »

Well I took the SE into the dealer the other day, the motor has a knock, sounds like it's either in the bottom end or the rear jug, not sure.  They've been on the phone with the MoCo and are now awaiting "special" tools so they can continue troubleshooting.  [smiley=zwtf.gif]

I could only hear the knock after it warmed up and only at idle or just off idle.  I'll let all know what it is once resolved.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2005, 11:13:11 PM »

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now awaiting "special" tools so they can continue troubleshooting.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2005, 11:22:59 PM »


Maybe it's a stethoscope they're sending?

Be sure to keep us posted, Fr8.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2005, 02:04:49 AM »

I don't like the way mine idles either. I have to get the idle tweaked a little higher. My complaint is mostly when the bike is cold. But still would like idle higher when it is warmed up
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2005, 06:17:20 AM »

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Maybe it's a stethoscope they're sending?
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More likely a COLONSCOPE for the owner!
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2005, 09:41:45 AM »

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That's disconcerting.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2005, 09:43:48 AM »

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Maybe it's a stethoscope they're sending?

Be sure to keep us posted, Fr8.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2005, 09:45:22 AM »

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I don't like the way mine idles either. I have to get the idle tweaked a little higher. My complaint is mostly when the bike is cold. But still would like idle higher when it is warmed up


I'm guessin the idle is related to it being a stroked motor and the cams in it.  I'm fine with the idle besides this knock in it, not real confidence inspiring.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2005, 10:04:36 AM »

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. . . . hopefully they are getting a bit more technical than that.


Maybe the thing that goes in JC's ear would help. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2005, 04:31:25 PM »

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I don't like the way mine idles either. I have to get the idle tweaked a little higher. My complaint is mostly when the bike is cold. But still would like idle higher when it is warmed up


Mine idles rough also especially when its cold. When cold it idles at about 1200 RPM and warm just below 1000 RPM.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2005, 07:40:30 PM »

BTY how many miles do you have now????
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2005, 08:05:56 PM »

Mine had a knock that continued to get louder as it racked up miles. At 2700 my tech pulled the front jug off and found it had not been bored properly ( as in out of round ) from the get go. After replacing the piston and jug under warranty the motor now has the normal clattering sounds its susposed to have.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2005, 06:51:57 AM »

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BTY how many miles do you have now????



Me?????  4500 or so.  Hopin the locate and get this thing fixed before I head to FL for a couple weeks.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2005, 06:53:52 AM »

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Mine had a knock that continued to get louder as it racked up miles. At 2700 my tech pulled the front jug off and found it had not been bored properly ( as in out of round ) from the get go. After replacing the piston and jug under warranty the motor now has the normal clattering sounds its susposed to have.



Mine seems to be in the rear jug, could be the same issue, I'll pass it on to the mech.  What year???
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2005, 08:46:36 AM »

Hey Fr8 are you heading down to Biketober Fest?

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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2005, 12:28:01 PM »

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Hey Fr8 are you heading down to Biketober Fest?

 [smiley=beerchug.gif]



Yeah probably just a day or so, then to see some friends in Clermont and then either off to Key West or Naples (or both)  to visit the in-laws for a couple days, then up to Tampa for meetings.  Should be exciting, I'm figuring maybe 6 turns total once I'm in FL. [smiley=laugh.gif]

You headin down??
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2005, 04:39:55 PM »

Yep! I haven't missed either event in the past 7 years. Thinking about going for the whole week but not sure yet. Maybe see ya there.

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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2005, 04:56:46 PM »

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Yep! I haven't missed either event in the past 7 years. Thinking about going for the whole week but not sure yet. Maybe see ya there.

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We can exchange info when it gets a bit closer, I'm not nailed down on any plans yet.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2005, 11:24:30 PM »

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Mine seems to be in the rear jug, could be the same issue, I'll pass it on to the mech.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2005, 07:24:26 AM »

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Mine is an 05 and it was the front Jug. The tighter you wound it the louder it would clatter.



Hmm, might be different then, mine goes away under throttle.  Haven't heard from them over the weekend,  gotta call today and see where they are with it.

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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2005, 08:14:03 PM »

Well I finally got the bike back today, they said the high tech fancy "special tools" didn' t help and it ended up being the compensator nut loose, we'll see.  I think I can still hear it slightly, but I'm gonna run the piss out of it for a while and see what happens, if it blows I got it on file that there was a problem.  I'm ridin it down to Biketoberfest in a couple weeks, 1000 miles on the interstate (each way) at 100+mph should work the bugs out of it.   [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2005, 08:36:01 AM »

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Well I finally got the bike back today, they said the high tech fancy "special tools" didn' t help and [bgcolor=Yellow]it ended up being the compensator nut loose[/bgcolor], we'll see.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2005, 08:43:28 AM »

They did have the mech add a shim in there also, maybe that will help it keep it's torque.  Guess I need to go get a look at this whole compensator thing in the manual so I understand it better.
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2005, 09:01:12 AM »

That is a REAL common problem & it sounds exactly like a motor knock.

The shim fix works quite well.

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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2005, 09:45:13 AM »

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That is a REAL common problem & it sounds exactly like a motor knock.

The shim fix works quite well.

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That's the surprising about this particular case.  It is a common problem.  So why did they have so much trouble diagnosing it and have to wait so many days for some "special tool?"
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Re: In the Shop, motor knock
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2005, 10:25:19 AM »

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That's the surprising about this particular case.
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