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[J.J.]

I am wondering if someone can help me with an air filter question.  I see that the K&N is the choice of most.  What is the cost of the K&N option?  Are there other mods that are required when replacing the stock filter?  I will be installing the HD tuner along with some Rineharts.  I thought that the CUSE came with a K&N but have since found out that it does not.  

[Tonys]

K&N element is $40-50. Harley uses a "washable" paper filter [smiley=nixweiss.gif]. You can also buy the Arlen Ness Big Sucker replacement element..its a K&N

[grc]

I am wondering if someone can help me with an air filter question.  I see that the K&N is the choice of most.  What is the cost of the K&N option?  Are there other mods that are required when replacing the stock filter?  I will be installing the HD tuner along with some Rineharts.  I thought that the CUSE came with a K&N but have since found out that it does not.  

J.J.

If you just want to replace the stock paper filter element with a K&N element, that will set you back around $40 to $50 - try the discount places like DirectParts, Wallys Cycle World, etc.  If you want more flow, you will need to replace the plastic air box with the Screamin' Eagle air cleaner or the Ness Big Sucker.  The Ness comes with a K&N element, the SE came with a paper element when I bought mine.  I've seen the Ness on various web sites for around $90-$100, the SE lists for $139 at your local dealer.  

Jerry

[mr_magoo]

My understanding is the HD one is made by K&N but HD kept the rights so K&N can't sell them.  I'm going to put a K&N oil type (old style) on the new bike

[Tonys]

J.J.

If you just want to replace the stock paper filter element with a K&N element, that will set you back around $40 to $50 - try the discount places like DirectParts, Wallys Cycle World, etc.  If you want more flow, you will need to replace the plastic air box with the Screamin' Eagle air cleaner or the Ness Big Sucker.  The Ness comes with a K&N element, the SE came with a paper element when I bought mine.  I've seen the Ness on various web sites for around $90-$100, the SE lists for $139 at your local dealer.  

Jerry

Exactly, and if you buy the Screaming Eagle stage 1 kit, you get the paper filter, so go for the Ness Big Sucker [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

[J.J.]

Thanks for the information fellas.  I will proceed. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

[h2o-man]

Will the Ness air box fit the 2006 SEUC and will the stock covers still work?

[Tonys]

Will the Ness air box fit the 2006 SEUC and will the stock covers still work?

According to:http://arlenness.com you can use the stock cover. You might want to double check tho.

[Mistered]

I just talked to our local "super tech"  and he said that the Ness will fit in the original cover.  Easier, cheaper and better... hmmm, SE or Ness.  Ness gets my vote.

[2up]

I am new to this site. Pick up my Black Candy Dec 12th. I was wondering waht the part # is on the Big Sucker that fits.
Thanks...

[grc]

I am new to this site. Pick up my Black Candy Dec 12th. I was wondering waht the part # is on the Big Sucker that fits.
Thanks...

2up,

Follow this link to arlen ness.  I would think you would want the Stage 1 for 2002 and up FLT.  The Stage 2 kits use a bigger filter element which may not work with the stock air cleaner cover.  The 18-500 is the regular unit, and the 18-501 has the chrome backing plate.

http://shop.arlenness.com/Productdetail.asp?SID=1&Category_ID=56&Product_ID=6985

Jerry

[sooiee]

I just talked to our local "super tech"  and he said that the Ness will fit in the original cover.  Easier, cheaper and better... hmmm, SE or Ness.  Ness gets my vote.

Hmmm.....and how does he substantiate his statement of "better".  Any test results?  Keep in mind, Ness is a bike "designer" that makes some pretty cool looking stuff.  Don't know much about his performance background?  Something to think about.  

[jeffj]

On 06 CUSE the cover requires two screws vs. 1 big screw to secure on. Will the Ness setup still work?

[FR8TRN]

The 2 screws are just holding a cover for the one big screw, so yes it'll work.

Only problem might be clearance, if this cover is deeper than others it might interfere, if this is a problem HD sells a gasket kit to make up for that space (29591-99), it made for the Nostalgic Air Cleaner Cover (29138-91) but would work for this application also.

[jeffj]

The 2 screws are just holding a cover for the one big screw, so yes it'll work.

LOL, you can tell I don't do much/any of my on work on scooter, thanks for the confirmation.

[Tonys]

Hmmm.....and how does he substantiate his statement of "better".  Any test results?  Keep in mind, Ness is a bike "designer" that makes some pretty cool looking stuff.  Don't know much about his performance background?  Something to think about.  

Well, the H-D filter is paper..you get any oil on it and its history. The Ness big sucker uses a K&N element. The K&N is made to be cleaned and re-oiled many times. It has a long history in racing etc. K&N is better by far.

[2up]

Thanks a lot for the info! Anyone actually applied this to their 06 with the stock cover yet?

2up,

Follow this link to arlen ness.  I would think you would want the Stage 1 for 2002 and up FLT.  The Stage 2 kits use a bigger filter element which may not work with the stock air cleaner cover.  The 18-500 is the regular unit, and the 18-501 has the chrome backing plate.

http://shop.arlenness.com/Productdetail.asp?SID=1&Category_ID=56&Product_ID=6985

Jerry

[grc]

Hmmm.....and how does he substantiate his statement of "better".  Any test results?  Keep in mind, Ness is a bike "designer" that makes some pretty cool looking stuff.  Don't know much about his performance background?  Something to think about.  

The Ness unit was very innovative when it first came out, in that it had a one piece backing plate that didn't leak / seep oil like the multiple piece SE units.  It also doesn't have those goofy rubber tubes that direct the breather fumes into the throat of the throttle body like the latest SE version, but instead uses internal passages in the plate.  All around a much better engineering solution than the SE.  Add in the fact that you get a real K&N filter and not a piece of paper junk, and the choice is pretty obvious.

BTW - is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that H-D always waits for the aftermarket to be innovative and come up with improvements and fixes for H-D's bikes?  Tom Hayden's M-6, Ness Big Sucker, TP Engineering rocker boxes, etc, etc, etc.

Jerry

[Twolanerider]

BTW - is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that H-D always waits for the aftermarket to be innovative and come up with improvements and fixes for H-D's bikes?  Tom Hayden's M-6, Ness Big Sucker, TP Engineering rocker boxes, etc, etc, etc.

Reverse engineering/duplication has got to be a lot cheaper than original R&D.  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]