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[OBB]

Only the non-waterheads. CVO's are now 110 waterheads as of this year.

IF they do the 2016 CVO line with the 120 it will have to be converted to a waterhead.

Actually it started with MY 2014. The softail CVO is still an air cooled version.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Just curious, Do you think the 110 cvo touring bikes are under powered?

Yes.  My 2013 CVO King at 2 months old, and 2K miles had the top end torn down, new cams, heads ported and polished, 10.8 compression with the new pistons, 55mm HPI throttle body, and 5.3 injectors.  Lots more reliable power than stock.  I every time I get on my 110 CVO with just pipes and tuner, I feel a serious lacking of power.

So Yea, I think the new CVO should have a twin cooled 120 inch motor, or even a 124.

[Grizzly]

Only the non-waterheads.  CVO's are now 110 waterheads as of this year.

IF they do the 2016 CVO line with the 120 it will have to be converted to a waterhead.

One could easily come to that conclusion, but not necessarily so... Not everyone is sold on the water cooled idea.

[FlaHeatWave]

I think that the 120ST is a great leap forward for the MoCo...

A big Crate Motor with a warranty to rival the S&S 124.

Emission Compliant for OEM. Some have complained about lack of options from the MoCo, evidently somebody in Milwaukee was listening.

I'll be surprised if we don't see a Twin Cooled 120 by the end of this decade, and total liquid cooling (while maintaining the legacy architecture / appearance / sound that we currently enjoy) in the next... 

Will the 110 replace the 103 in the non CVOs, and the 120 become the CVO motor? When???

[ZVO]

I just got a CVO STreet Glide HCC in April so if they release a 120 in June I will be trading up!

[FLH91]

Again, The CARB report was specifically for 120ST replacement motors (accessory) in the 2015 models listed.   How are we jumping so fast to them being in the 2016 lineup?

[fastfreddy]

Again, The CARB report was specifically for 120ST replacement motors (accessory) in the 2015 models listed.   How are we jumping so fast to them being in the 2016 lineup?

  creative minds   

[ZVO]

Again, The CARB report was specifically for 120ST replacement motors (accessory) in the 2015 models listed.   How are we jumping so fast to them being in the 2016 lineup?

Wishful thinking? 

[Fired00d]

Again, The CARB report was specifically for 120ST replacement motors (accessory) in the 2015 models listed.   How are we jumping so fast to them being in the 2016 lineup?

Because Willie G's pool boy said they would be.

 
Ride Safe
Fired00d
 

[JCZ]

This thread reminds me of all the speculation just before the 2003 Road King came out with the 103".   Great entertainment, for sure.   

[Lone Rider]

The real test will be when they roll out and the general public critique them.

[FLH91]

OK, I know we can always trust the pool boy!  Now I understand...
For me, I'd stay far away from the 120ST for at least a year or two until all the "bugs" are worked out.....  For now, a tuned up 110 is great!

[Grizzly]

OK, I know we can always trust the pool boy!  Now I understand...
For me, I'd stay far away from the 120ST for at least a year or two until all the "bugs" are worked out.....  For now, a tuned up 110 is great!

You mean to say, you don't want to be a "beta tester" for the MoCo?

Where's your sense of adventure?

                     

[grc]

OK, I know we can always trust the pool boy!  Now I understand...
For me, I'd stay far away from the 120ST for at least a year or two until all the "bugs" are worked out.....  For now, a tuned up 110 is great!

You mean to say, you don't want to be a "beta tester" for the MoCo?

Where's your sense of adventure?

                     

     I love the "year or two until all the bugs are worked out" statement.  It usually takes Harley a hell of a lot longer than a year or two to fix all the bugs, and some never get fixed.

I don't think I would assume that a regular production version of the 120 would be the same thing as the 120R or the 120ST.  Those engines are being built in limited volume and being sold for a large profit.  Regular production engines will have the cost reduction team's tweaks included, and we all know how well that team has done over the past ten years or so. 

Jerry

[Dr.D]

    I love the "year or two until all the bugs are worked out" statement.  It usually takes Harley a hell of a lot longer than a year or two to fix all the bugs, and some never get fixed.

I don't think I would assume that a regular production version of the 120 would be the same thing as the 120R or the 120ST.  Those engines are being built in limited volume and being sold for a large profit.  Regular production engines will have the cost reduction team's tweaks included, and we all know how well that team has done over the past ten years or so. 

Jerry

Darn Jerry I am already a cynic I should avoid reading your posts. If you didn't make any sense i would.

Look guys the MoCo will bring out bigger and better from time to time to keep you buying their stuff. I am not sure whether i would rather have the new 120st or a GMR 113 build? Just joking i am sure.