Topic: Crack Down On Novelty Motorcycle Helmets (Read 21346 times)

RedMoon · « **on:** May 21, 2015, 09:11:56 AM »

Transportation Regulators To Crack Down On Novelty Motorcycle Helmets
http://cyrilhuzeblog.com/2015/05/21/u-s-transportation-regulators-to-crack-down-on-novelty-motorcycle-helmets/

Chains · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2015, 09:18:59 AM »

Not a fan of government intervention and at one time this would have really upset me. Now with all the inferior products hitting our shores and the fact that there is no reason to have novelty helmets anymore I hope it works. Was a time I stopped riding because of helmet mandates, not anymore, I like the thought of being safe or at least having the feeling of safety with a quality helmet.

JMHO

kiro · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2015, 10:23:20 AM »

Novelty helmets have been around for a long as motorcycles - I'm surprised this hasn't been addressed in detail long before now...

CVOStreetglide · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2015, 05:03:53 PM »

Quote from: kiro on May 21, 2015, 10:23:20 AM

Novelty helmets have been around for a long as motorcycles - I'm surprised this hasn't been addressed in detail long before now...

It has over and over and over again!!

The problem in my assessment is that the studies are biased and produced as part of a larger agenda- reinstituting mandatory helmets laws in all states. Don't think for a minute that the helmet manufactures aren't complicit in this. They miss the revenue!!

What I would support is a unbiased study that drills much deeper into the reasons for injuries.

In numbers, crashes are down year over year as are the percentage of crashes/riders.

The last time I looked at a credible study the following stats were true;

1. Over 60% and growing of motorcycle accidents were attributed to excessive drinking.
2. A large percentage of the remaining 40% was due to new riders inexperienced in riding.
3. Another large percentage of the remaing 40% was directly attributed to the motorcycle rider being struck by a car (T-Boning, turned into lane changes--etc.

The numbers won't add up to 100% but you get the drift.

ALSO, it is important to know that a helmet is not designed to protect you in a accident above 20-25 mph. They actually conduct what is called a drop test from a ladder.--14' . Also, if your helment was used in a accident--cracked or not it is rendered unusable and you are supposed to buy a new one. I am not sure of the current thinking regarding time but a helmet needs to be replaced if worn over 3-4 years. The padding breaks down over time rendering it marginally useful for it's intended purpose.

Helmets have been the cause of death or significant injury in a accident. Our bodies are not designed to handle say whiplash at speed with a helmet on. Your neck can be broken because you were wearing a helmet.

THE GOOD NEWS---Over the last 20-30 years there have been significant improvements in helmet design as a result of meaningful dialog like this with credible information. As a result helments are considerably lighter, stronger and make the user safer. Think of the old Bell Helmets verses today as an example.

Jet pilots, racers of all kinds and yes motorcycle riders are the beneficiaries.

I have always thought that if say Harley or Victory--etc in partnership with the helmet manufacturers would come up with a hard bag NOT TOUR PACK that legal helmets would fit in and allow them to be locked up when not in use, there would be more buyers/users.

LASTLY, develop some meaningful helmet crash/impact standards that provide value.

It's somebody elses turn 😃😃

Chains · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2015, 05:30:33 PM »

Every three to four years I dispose of my old helmets. To make sure no one uses them I cut the straps off, strip the padding and drill a few holes in them. I figure if I don't think there usable I certainly don't want someone at the landfill grabbing them up and selling them on eBay to some poor soul. I agree helmets have come a long way and we are the beneficiaries. Also wish they fit in my tour pack.

03Lightningrocks · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2015, 06:11:10 PM »

Not really pertinent to novelty helmets but I have noticed a trend at "bike rallies". The first day or two, many are wearing their helmets. Within three to four days, you will play hell finding a rider with a helmet on. I am guilty as the rest in this weird quirk of human nature.

Jswerve · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2015, 06:13:35 PM »

What's a helmet? No crackdown here in good ol Iowa.

grc · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2015, 07:11:49 PM »

Some buy novelty helmets instead of good ones just to spit in the eyes of the authorities who tell them they have to wear one (as if the authorities somehow care). Some are just cheap and buy the cheapest thing on the market. To those people I like to say, if you have a $50 head, then buy a $50 helmet.

Jerry

HighOnHD · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2015, 12:15:49 AM »

I have a novelty helmet!!

A group of us rode the Baja peninsula in '96 and '97. Took a week going down each time. Stayed a week in Cabo, and then took a week getting back out. We had a friend and others driving a motorhome and trailer for support. Anyway, a friend/driver went out and bought all of us riders novelty helmets in which he had custom slogans that each of us had individually "earned" on the trips as well as a map of the Baja on each of the helmets.

My helmet sits on a bookshelf in the office serving its purpose... as a novelty.

I have crashed and landed on my head several times. Twice it knocked me out. Once my vision was blurry for about twenty minutes. This was with real helmets on. Probably would not be typing this otherwise.

Now I guess I have spilled my secret, and everyone knows why I am messed up in the head.

D-N-D · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2015, 06:28:14 AM »

Has anyone tried this Helmet @ bikerhelmets.com they say it's worlds smallest- lightest DOT beanie helmet

( Made in China has me thinking it's not very good ?? ) I was thinking about trying one it's cost $99.00 the Carbon one is $149.00

grc · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2015, 08:28:10 AM »

Quote from: D-N-D on May 22, 2015, 06:28:14 AM

Has anyone tried this Helmet @ bikerhelmets.com they say it's worlds smallest- lightest DOT beanie helmet ( Made in China has me thinking it's not very good ?? ) I was thinking about trying one it's cost $99.00 the Carbon one is $149.00

The Chinese have also claimed a lot of other products they dumped over here met standards that they did not meet. I don't know I would trust them. Once again however, if you think your head is only worth $99, go for it.

Jerry

MrSurly · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2015, 10:38:00 AM »

Quote from: CVOStreetglide on May 21, 2015, 05:03:53 PM

The problem in my assessment is that the studies are biased and produced as part of a larger agenda Must be a conspiracy.

What I would support is a unbiased study that drills much deeper into the reasons for injuries. Yeah, probably nobody has looked into this.

<snip>The last time I looked at a credible study<snip> Does your assessment of 'credibility' begin with "if it agrees with me"?

ALSO, it is important to know that a helmet is not designed to protect you in a accident above 20-25 mph.<snip> Total BS. (and the usual speed cited by the lid-hater-talking-points is 14 MPH) Watch a MotoGp race. Watch someone (in full leathers) have a get-off at 150MPH, sliding/flipping/banging grinding... and then stand up, and walk away. Look at the many pics of helmets with massive abrasions on them that were worn by uninjured riders... Are you TRULY going to suggest that the helmet played no role and that it wasn't designed to help? That is just illogical and blatantly false. Yes, it is true that if you hit a concrete wall straight on at high speed, then yes, the helmet has a limit and when you exceed it, you'll get injured or get dead. Having the helmet on didn't make you dead. The truth is that the vast majority of helmet involvement in crashes is oblique; glancing blows and grinding/bouncing on the pavement. Helmets are incredibly, unarguably very very helpful in this use.

<snip>Helmets have been the cause of death or significant injury in a accident. <snip> Absolute balderdash. Here's an older discussion http://www.msgroup.org/forums/mtt/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10094, cited here simply because it includes a bunch links for convenience.There are NO studies that indicate that helmets cause significant injury. NONE

<snip>I have always thought that if say Harley or Victory--etc in partnership with the helmet manufacturers would come up with a hard bag NOT TOUR PACK that legal helmets would fit in and allow them to be locked up when not in use, there would be more buyers/users. <snip> Legal half-lids will fit in most bags. Full face will require a King Tourpak but there are *other* motorcycles that will hold them in their saddlebags.

LASTLY, develop some meaningful helmet crash/impact standards that provide value. <snip> DOT/SNELL/SHARP are meaningless?

It's somebody elses turn 😃😃 INDEED

I don't want to be "that guy", but I cannot sit idly by and see this same old bullcrap repeated and left unchallenged. These same old talking points get regurgitated year after year and they remain as false as when they were first uttered.
Real studies DO exist.
Lid haters dislike them
Helmets don't magically save EVERY life. Lid haters say "SEE, they don't work!"
Lid haters make up crap like "helmets kill people" instead of just saying the truth, which is "we don't like them"
The real issue is personal freedom, which I fully support and will defend. I fight for no-lid laws.
But, physics is physics and facts is facts.
Don't be makin' sh!t up.

ultrafxr · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2015, 12:21:43 PM »

I guess those who ride without helmets also don't use safety belts in their autos/trucks. Just sayin'

How anyone who is the least bit informed can choose to ride sans helmet is simply beyond me. Of course folks smoke, drink to excess and use controlled substances so I know the human brain can rationalize most anything in to believing that 'it won't happen to me.'

I'd have checked out for sure in '09 when I had a little parking lot crash and hit my head hard enough to cause a concussion even with a helmet. It was a half helmet and now I wear only a modular. Not always but the majority of the time your head is going to contact the road/ground if you crash.

HighOnHD · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2015, 12:23:39 PM »

Just for the record... I am 100% for freedom of choice.

As far as helmets possibly being the cause of deaths or otherwise... I personally believe they probably have on occasion. It is difficult to prove one way or the other in this regard. I know of several who have been paralyzed from the neck down, and it was believed that the full-face chin caught and snapped the neck. Did it?? Who knows. I believe it is possible and likely though to happen sometimes.

For me though it is a risk vs reward sort of thing. I wear a helmet because I believe the probability is in my favor that it will help more than hurt.

CVOStreetglide · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2015, 02:30:39 PM »

Quote from: MrSurly on May 22, 2015, 10:38:00 AM

I don't want to be "that guy", but I cannot sit idly by and see this same old bullcrap repeated and left unchallenged. These same old talking points get regurgitated year after year and they remain as false as when they were first uttered.
Real studies DO exist.
Lid haters dislike them
Helmets don't magically save EVERY life. Lid haters say "SEE, they don't work!"
Lid haters make up crap like "helmets kill people" instead of just saying the truth, which is "we don't like them"
The real issue is personal freedom, which I fully support and will defend. I fight for no-lid laws.
But, physics is physics and facts is facts.
Don't be makin' sh!t up.

Well you sure do have a accurate Forum name.

I really don't know or care who sh.t in YOUR Cheerios. But in the REAL WORLD as opposed to yours the information I posted is in fact accurate.

You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine. But if you think for one minute that the Government studies are accurate interpretations of the motorcycle data you are naive and I really do have a bridge for you to buy.

Most of the government DOT, NHTSC like many college professors publish because they don't "do." The references in their papers come from others who have virtually no idea what end is the front of a motorcycle. It's called dumb squared.

So, let's just agree to disagree.

Jswerve · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2015, 02:58:03 PM »

Here we go again with the helmet police. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!! Jesus 1 guy posts something about the novelty helmets and all of sudden the helmet police come out with a vengeance. We get it, you're smarter than everyone. So how about you stop running around babbling about how great your helmet is and just agree to disagree. We don't have a helmet law here AND WE LOVE IT! Rarely does anyone wear a helmet around here and that because IT"S OUR CHOICE NOT YOURS. Why is that so damn hard to comprehend?

Now, I am going to go for a ride WITHOUT a helmet. MY RIGHT. You get on your damn soap box and keep on preaching. You don't know me and it's none of your concern just worry about your ugly melons.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but none of you are going to get out alive. So while you are here quit your damn preachin, wear or don't wear a helmet, and get out and ride.

FlaHeatWave · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2015, 04:19:21 PM »

Florida is a no helmet state, sometimes I don't wear a helmet, sometimes I wear a novelty helmet, sometimes I wear the Shark Evoline3 in hi-viz yellow (we call them the Power Rangers lol).

These days I wear a helmet more often than not, mostly for comfort (keeps my hair from knotting up).

It's good to have a choice... I've got enough of the government telling me what / what not to do

As far as statistics go, in Florida; Motorcycle Fatalities, 52% without helmet, 48% with helmet.

CVOStreetglide · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2015, 05:20:08 PM »

Quote from: FlaHeatWave on May 22, 2015, 04:19:21 PM

Florida is a no helmet state, sometimes I don't wear a helmet, sometimes I wear a novelty helmet, sometimes I wear the Shark Evoline3 in hi-viz yellow (we call them the Power Rangers lol).

These days I wear a helmet more often than not, mostly for comfort (keeps my hair from knotting up).

It's good to have a choice... I've got enough of the government telling me what / what not to do

As far as statistics go, in Florida; Motorcycle Fatalities, 52% without helmet, 48% with helmet.

THE NEWSPAPER: "...something year old HARLEY rider was killed today while riding his motorcycle.
He was wearing a helmet and was "T" Boned by a 88 year old driver with cateracts who didn't hear or see him.

HighOnHD · « **Reply #18 on:** May 23, 2015, 10:00:04 AM »

Quote from: Jswerve on May 22, 2015, 02:58:03 PM

Here we go again with the helmet police. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!!! Jesus 1 guy posts something about the novelty helmets and all of sudden the helmet police come out with a vengeance. We get it, you're smarter than everyone. So how about you stop running around babbling about how great your helmet is and just agree to disagree. We don't have a helmet law here AND WE LOVE IT! Rarely does anyone wear a helmet around here and that because IT"S OUR CHOICE NOT YOURS. Why is that so damn hard to comprehend?

Now, I am going to go for a ride WITHOUT a helmet. MY RIGHT. You get on your damn soap box and keep on preaching. You don't know me and it's none of your concern just worry about your ugly melons.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but none of you are going to get out alive. So while you are here quit your damn preachin, wear or don't wear a helmet, and get out and ride.

Hey Jesse,

Come on and admit it! You know you are a closet helmet wearer.

HighOnHD · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2015, 11:15:23 AM »

I have to admit I would tend to get pretty grumpy too if I did not want to wear a helmet, and I was afraid all the do-gooders were going to get together and force me to wear one. Not a happy thought.

MrSurly · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2015, 02:00:14 PM »

I don't care what anybody wears.
I USUALLY wear a lid, but not always, so I've no high horse to preach from.

I just have issues with bogus claims.

Ride free and I'll fight for your right.

smkymtnboy · « **Reply #21 on:** May 23, 2015, 02:13:13 PM »

Quote from: D-N-D on May 22, 2015, 06:28:14 AM

Has anyone tried this Helmet @ bikerhelmets.com they say it's worlds smallest- lightest DOT beanie helmet ( Made in China has me thinking it's not very good ?? ) I was thinking about trying one it's cost $99.00 the Carbon one is $149.00

if, you are asking!!? anything Chinese that must met a spec or standard is usually substandard and not to spec from tires to helmets. that is a fact. they continually cheat and misrepresent. and to think Harley is silly enough to buy Chinese made parts. oh boy!

cembo · « **Reply #22 on:** May 29, 2015, 09:33:35 PM »

Quote from: MrSurly on May 22, 2015, 10:38:00 AM

I don't want to be "that guy", but I cannot sit idly by and see this same old bullcrap repeated and left unchallenged. These same old talking points get regurgitated year after year and they remain as false as when they were first uttered.
Real studies DO exist.
Lid haters dislike them
Helmets don't magically save EVERY life. Lid haters say "SEE, they don't work!"
Lid haters make up crap like "helmets kill people" instead of just saying the truth, which is "we don't like them"
The real issue is personal freedom, which I fully support and will defend. I fight for no-lid laws.
But, physics is physics and facts is facts.
Don't be makin' sh!t up.

Well said - nothing more to add!

Road Dad · « **Reply #23 on:** May 29, 2015, 11:06:18 PM »

I am for everyone having a choice but I don't want to pay for someone that chose to bounce their head of the Tarmac without a helmet and stays in a coma for years -$$$$$$$$

Same thing with healthcare. Great to see that companies have the smokers and the obese paying for the higher risk. (That will be mandatory in 8-9 years is my guess). Again. If someone chose to smoke it's their choice. I just don't want to pay for the cancer treatment.

So have your choice but pay for it. That seem fair to me.

mark · « **Reply #24 on:** May 31, 2015, 10:24:41 AM »

The article seems to suggest that some riders buy novelty helmets thinking they are "real" helmets. Really? Anyone with a non-DOT helmet knows what they have.

bigdave110 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 31, 2015, 10:44:45 AM »

My brother has a novelty helmet and has been using it for years.
I ask him every time we ride, why wear that damn thing, there is no helmet law now, just go with out it.
His response is always, (I am used to it).

Him and all his friends used to wear them sort of in protest, and they where much lighter than helmets of old.
With the new technology, the newer helmets are pretty light on the head.

Just my 2cents.

For the record, sometimes I wear one, sometimes I don't. (Real helmet)

Not forcing my reasons and opinions on anyone else, please do not preach to me.

That being said.

Have a great day.

grc · « **Reply #26 on:** May 31, 2015, 10:56:06 AM »

Quote from: Mark on May 31, 2015, 10:24:41 AM

The article seems to suggest that some riders buy novelty helmets thinking they are "real" helmets. Really? Anyone with a non-DOT helmet knows what they have.

Most folks who've been riding for a long time know exactly what those "novelty" helmets really are. However, the regulators and enforcement folks have to look out for those who really don't know any better. It's no different than many other counterfeit or misleading products on the market. People get scammed on other stuff like fake prescription drugs from our fine friends in China for instance. Even reasonably well informed people can easily be scammed these days by people who are highly motivated.

For those who turned this into a "live free or die" thread, it's not about whether you should be forced to wear a helmet. It's about the right of the consumer to know what he's buying is a legit product. As for those who knowingly buy them to skirt helmet laws, as long as they know what they're buying isn't going to really protect them, and they are willing to accept responsibility for their decision, fine by me.

Jerry

03Lightningrocks · « **Reply #27 on:** May 31, 2015, 11:31:58 AM »

Quote from: grc on May 31, 2015, 10:56:06 AM

Most folks who've been riding for a long time know exactly what those "novelty" helmets really are. However, the regulators and enforcement folks have to look out for those who really don't know any better. It's no different than many other counterfeit or misleading products on the market. People get scammed on other stuff like fake prescription drugs from our fine friends in China for instance. Even reasonably well informed people can easily be scammed these days by people who are highly motivated.

For those who turned this into a "live free or die" thread, it's not about whether you should be forced to wear a helmet. It's about the right of the consumer to know what he's buying is a legit product. As for those who knowingly buy them to skirt helmet laws, as long as they know what they're buying isn't going to really protect them, and they are willing to accept responsibility for their decision, fine by me.

Jerry

I was going to post something similar. While in Daytona this year during bike week, I noticed they were selling the crap out of these novelty helmets. I did hear a few conversations between buyers and sellers that would support the theory that some folks don't realize the difference.

MrSurly · « **Reply #28 on:** May 31, 2015, 01:06:22 PM »

Some folks *absolutely* don't know that there are "non-functional" helmets out there.
There are new riders every day and "DOT" is not automatically included knowledge.

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mark · « **Reply #29 on:** May 31, 2015, 03:44:38 PM »

Just curious...I wonder if those that knowingly wear novelty helmets would buy novelty life preservers for their boat?

donald p · « **Reply #30 on:** May 31, 2015, 06:56:04 PM »

You don't see many people carring novelty guns to protect them self's, do you.

Streetglide1 · « **Reply #31 on:** May 31, 2015, 09:00:58 PM »

Quote from: donald p on May 31, 2015, 06:56:04 PM

You don't see many people carring novelty guns to protect them self's, do you.

I think you got that right.....good point there.Well I live in the show me state so you have to wear it, Missouri has been very close a few times to passing a no helmet law, business people say in the summer time they loose a lot of money because bikers will go around the state so they don't have to wear it, I've got my broken wings and lived to tell about it so I feel good about wearing it, but that's me.

The people who buy novelty helmets I would think they know there is no protection there but there is always a bad gene pool lurking somewhere and as far as the government getting involved in it is BS, the feds are already into to much BS and a person should have the right to make their own decision.

03Lightningrocks · « **Reply #32 on:** May 31, 2015, 10:16:22 PM »

For the record. Even though I believe there are people who don't realize novelty helmets offer no real protection, I STRONGLY appose the damned government intruding on our personal choices once again. The nanny state crap is out of control on many issues, including helmets. It is my head and my choice to risk it or not. I do wear a helmet 99.9% of the time but refuse to tell someone else what they should do.

kiro · « **Reply #33 on:** June 01, 2015, 07:56:52 AM »

Quote

For the record. Even though I believe there are people who don't realize novelty helmets offer no real protection, I STRONGLY appose the damned government intruding on our personal choices once again. The nanny state crap is out of control on many issues, including helmets. It is my head and my choice to risk it or not. I do wear a helmet 99.9% of the time but refuse to tell someone else what they should do.

I agree - too much 'direction' at the state and Federal level. I wear a helmet these days by my choice, don't have too (yet) in my state, but I oppose legislation to change that in lieu of personal choice.

Puma · « **Reply #34 on:** June 01, 2015, 01:49:52 PM »

I've actually heard guys say about novelty helmets, "they're better than nothing."

Spiderman · « **Reply #35 on:** June 01, 2015, 01:54:31 PM »

Quote from: Puma on June 01, 2015, 01:49:52 PM

I've actually heard guys say about novelty helmets, "they're better than nothing."

For what it's worth. I have what I guess is considered a novelty helmet. It's basically a beanie. For years now I've worn it with a visor snapped to the front and a baseball cap underneath turned backwards. Sort of a Sherlock Holmes type affair that keeps the sun out of my eyes and off the back of my neck. I wrecked my first 03 SERK. (I'm currently on #4) In the course of bouncing down Canadian Highway 405 outside of Toronto, the visor of the novelty helmet kept my nose and face off the pavement. With the ballcap underneath the helmet fits snugly and I keep the chinstrap tight so ------------ you be the judge. Was it better than nothing ?

B B

cambo · « **Reply #36 on:** June 01, 2015, 03:06:27 PM »

Quote from: Spiderman on June 01, 2015, 01:54:31 PM

For what it's worth. I have what I guess is considered a novelty helmet. It's basically a beanie. For years now I've worn it with a visor snapped to the front and a baseball cap underneath turned backwards. Sort of a Sherlock Holmes type affair that keeps the sun out of my eyes and off the back of my neck. I wrecked my first 03 SERK. (I'm currently on #4) In the course of bouncing down Canadian Highway 405 outside of Toronto, the visor of the novelty helmet kept my nose and face off the pavement. With the ballcap underneath the helmet fits snugly and I keep the chinstrap tight so ------------ you be the judge. Was it better than nothing ?

B B

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Disclaimer: I am against any and all government regulations and laws when it comes to decisions that would only impact me, my family and, to some extent, my friends (they would be upset if I hurt myself). So no helmet laws, seat belt laws, no smoking laws, etc. Having said that:

I was riding a Yamaha on a rainy day and had to avoid an obstacle by turning left while applying the brakes (front and rear). I locked up the front brakes (no ABS and not linked) so the back of the bike came off the ground and I was thrown off the bike. Having played sports in high school I instinctively turned my body around while in the air and landed on my back. As soon as I hit the ground my head bounced off the ground and the bike landed on my right foot. I was wearing my rain gear over my draggin' jeans and leather jacket so no road rash. I had my helmet on and I did not have a concussion or any other ill effects. I was also wearing my HD boots so the bike did not crush my foot. Being more embarrassed than anything else I jumped back up and tried to lift the bike up quickly jump back on it and ride away somewhere so I could hide. I was limping for about a week except for when my wife was around because I didn't want her to remind me that riding a bike is just crazy and I should know better!

One can argue that the helmet did not really help much but I know that if my big head bounced off the blacktop I would at least have a nasty bump, which I did not. I do know for a fact that my right foot would have been crushed had it not been for the boots I was wearing.

I'm not telling anyone they should wear helmets, boots, leathers, etc. Just sharing my own experience.

Cam

J-Carr · « **Reply #37 on:** June 01, 2015, 03:20:56 PM »

Quote from: Mark on May 31, 2015, 03:44:38 PM

Just curious...I wonder if those that knowingly wear novelty helmets would buy novelty life preservers for their boat?

Yes. I'd buy ones that don't cover anything on the front of my lady passengers.

To be fair, I'm a former life guard and my boat is a paddle boat and my lake is no more than 150 yards wide at its widest. I can rescue them and myself which could be fun!

I also think that novelty helmets do offer some protection. I've personally seen it. Its just not enough for me. I'll stick with my Nolan street legal, even though I live in a helmet law free state (for now). I continue to not support helmet laws, seat belt laws, or any other law that tells me how to live my life. Government and religion do not know what's best for me. Only I do. Because if I'm wrong, then its on me... no regrets.

moscooter · « **Reply #38 on:** June 01, 2015, 04:21:20 PM »

Post some of your novelty helmets, I have a bunch of them, here is one of the larger ones.

Streetglide1 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 01, 2015, 04:34:33 PM »

LOL...Looks like something out of spaceballs

cambo · « **Reply #40 on:** June 01, 2015, 04:57:29 PM »

Quote from: Streetglide1 on June 01, 2015, 04:34:33 PM

LOL...Looks like something out of spaceballs

Quote from: Streetglide1 on June 01, 2015, 04:34:33 PM

LOL...Looks like something out of spaceballs

I see your schwarz is as big as mine!

willyB · « **Reply #41 on:** June 01, 2015, 07:46:43 PM »

I wear a helmet for two reasons.

#1: I always have. Hard to break habits.
#2: It keeps me from getting sunburned on my thinly haired head.

Not sure if it still holds true but Missouri has a helmet law but no eye protection rule while Illinois has no helmet law but has an eye protection rule. I always thought that seemed odd.

J-Carr · « **Reply #42 on:** June 01, 2015, 08:28:42 PM »

No eye protection can cause you to lose control and hit an innocent car or pedestrian. So you can make the argument that by preventing you from letting an insect blind you they're protecting others. The helmet only comes into use after you've hit something and therefore is not protecting other peoples property.

I have no problem with that.

Lots of states instituted helmet laws without eye protection. It pretty well proved that they were enacting laws based on lobbying. It only took a little research to make the argument for eye protection.

Puma · « **Reply #43 on:** June 01, 2015, 09:58:16 PM »

Quote from: Spiderman on June 01, 2015, 01:54:31 PM

For what it's worth. I have what I guess is considered a novelty helmet. It's basically a beanie. For years now I've worn it with a visor snapped to the front and a baseball cap underneath turned backwards. Sort of a Sherlock Holmes type affair that keeps the sun out of my eyes and off the back of my neck. I wrecked my first 03 SERK. (I'm currently on #4) In the course of bouncing down Canadian Highway 405 outside of Toronto, the visor of the novelty helmet kept my nose and face off the pavement. With the ballcap underneath the helmet fits snugly and I keep the chinstrap tight so ------------ you be the judge. Was it better than nothing ?

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Maybe. It would seem the visor was, at least.

Sprintkid · « **Reply #44 on:** June 01, 2015, 10:18:34 PM »

I love my helmet.. Just sayin!

D-N-D · « **Reply #45 on:** June 02, 2015, 06:08:26 AM »

Novelty Helmets have one and love it !!!!

Spiderman · « **Reply #46 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:22:10 AM »

Quote from: willyB on June 01, 2015, 07:46:43 PM

I wear a helmet for two reasons.

#1: I always have. Hard to break habits.
#2: It keeps me from getting sunburned on my thinly haired head.

Not sure if it still holds true but Missouri has a helmet law but no eye protection rule while Illinois has no helmet law but has an eye protection rule. I always thought that seemed odd.

I agree 100%
spending winters in San Diego and summers in Maine, I've gotten so used to having the helmet on in California that it just doesn't feel right without it when I'm in Maine even though it's not required. And yes, my hair has it's thin spots that allow my scalp to burn damn fast without anything covering it.

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kiro · « **Reply #47 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:42:08 AM »

Spiderman - you spend summers in Maine? Do you have your bike there as well?

Spiderman · « **Reply #48 on:** June 02, 2015, 12:31:52 PM »

Quote from: kiro on June 02, 2015, 08:42:08 AM

Spiderman - you spend summers in Maine? Do you have your bike there as well?

I keep my 03 SERK in San Diego and the 07 Road Glide below here in Maine

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kiro · « **Reply #49 on:** June 02, 2015, 01:04:54 PM »

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I keep my 03 SERK in San Diego and the 07 Road Glide below here in Maine

Wow - sounds like the best of both worlds... Generally speaking people here go to Florida in winter and stay home in warmer weather. I'm in Portland - let me know if you want to hook up for lunch or something while you're in state.

carmine · « **Reply #50 on:** June 02, 2015, 03:03:56 PM »

I use one of thist think straight when I ride CVO softail convertibleand it is fine. Got a DOTSticker on it...I'm good

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TinSpinner · « **Reply #51 on:** June 02, 2015, 05:44:38 PM »

Quote from: carmine on June 02, 2015, 03:03:56 PM

I use one of thist think straight when I ride CVO softail convertibleand it is fine. Got a DOTSticker on it...I'm good

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Welcome....I think.

moscooter · « **Reply #52 on:** June 02, 2015, 07:27:20 PM »

grc · « **Reply #53 on:** June 02, 2015, 08:01:25 PM »

Hi carmine. Can we safely assume you typed up that post after falling on your head wearing that novelty helmet?

Jerry

mark · « **Reply #54 on:** June 02, 2015, 09:53:10 PM »

Quote from: grc on June 02, 2015, 08:01:25 PM

Hi carmine. Can we safely assume you typed up that post after falling on your head wearing that novelty helmet?

Jerry

Jerry, you beat me to the keyboard...my thoughts too.

cambo · « **Reply #55 on:** June 02, 2015, 10:12:51 PM »

Quote from: grc on June 02, 2015, 08:01:25 PM

Hi carmine. Can we safely assume you typed up that post after falling on your head wearing that novelty helmet?

Jerry

That's funny no matter how many times I read it! I assumed that Carmine was using his smart phone/tablet to type that and was auto-corrected into incoherence. Jerry you da man!

Cam

Ironhorse · « **Reply #56 on:** June 03, 2015, 01:04:33 AM »

Quote from: carmine on June 02, 2015, 03:03:56 PM

I use one of thist think straight when I ride CVO softail convertibleand it is fine. Got a DOTSticker on it...I'm good

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Hi Carmine,

I see this is your first post. Welcome to the forum! Please post some pics of the CVO Convertible and tell us about yourself.

What kinds of other bikes do you have or have had?
What kinds of modifications if any have you had done to your bike?
Where in the USA do you live? We have folks from all over and most likely near you too!
How long have you been riding?
Are you self taught or have you had formal instruction like Police School, MSF or Ride Like a Pro?
Are you a solo rider, or do you ride with a passenger?
Ride with any groups?
Tell us about some of your most memorable rides, distances, routes, places, people, things you did and saw.

Look forward to seeing you on the road!

Mark

03Lightningrocks · « **Reply #57 on:** June 03, 2015, 01:10:16 AM »

Quote from: camcvo on June 02, 2015, 10:12:51 PM

That's funny no matter how many times I read it! I assumed that Carmine was using his smart phone/tablet to type that and was auto-corrected into incoherence. Jerry you da man!

Cam

I am laughing so hard I have people asking me if I am drinking.

Edit: Now I have everyone with me laughing... I had to explain what was so funny in the middle of a card game.

MrSurly · « **Reply #58 on:** June 03, 2015, 02:21:37 AM »

Mark, great invitation and talking points for a new member introduction! Well done, sir....
But I'm afraid Carmine probably doesn't remember much after he tested the novelty of his lid..
From the "sound" of it, he's likely staring at the microwave waiting for Wheel of Fortune to come on.

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03Lightningrocks · « **Reply #59 on:** June 03, 2015, 04:28:43 AM »

OMG!!! You are killing me!

Spiderman · « **Reply #60 on:** June 03, 2015, 06:38:24 AM »

Quote from: kiro on June 02, 2015, 01:04:54 PM

Wow - sounds like the best of both worlds... Generally speaking people here go to Florida in winter and stay home in warmer weather. I'm in Portland - let me know if you want to hook up for lunch or something while you're in state.

I am headed to Rochester NH early this Saturday morning (6-6)for a charity ride. The Madison Weeks run. Registration is 0900 at the American Legion Post 7 just outside of Rochester off Rt 202.

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Chains · « **Reply #61 on:** June 03, 2015, 07:41:27 AM »

Quote from: grc on June 02, 2015, 08:01:25 PM

Hi carmine. Can we safely assume you typed up that post after falling on your head wearing that novelty helmet?

Jerry

My thoughts exactly good job Jerry that's too funny.

Ironhorse · « **Reply #62 on:** June 03, 2015, 09:02:44 AM »

Quote from: MrSurly on June 03, 2015, 02:21:37 AM

Mark, great invitation and talking points for a new member introduction! Well done, sir....
But I'm afraid Carmine probably doesn't remember much after he tested the novelty of his lid..
From the "sound" of it, he's likely staring at the microwave waiting for Wheel of Fortune to come on.

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I usually welcome folks in this manner when their first post, and sometimes only post, can be seen as confusing, inflammatory, combative, or baiting. A while back we had an issue with trollers looking to entertain themselves. Most trollers won't share info like that. Folks with genuine interest don't mind. This is one reason I like post counts.

I'm not saying Carmine is anything but a CVO owner who doesn't post often, hopefully he will return and become one of us and post up often.

Mark

J-Carr · « **Reply #63 on:** June 03, 2015, 09:16:05 AM »

Umm, maybe its just because I speak fluent sarcasm, but I'm thinking Carmine might have made an intentional and excellent point about the effectiveness of Novelty helmets and life afterwards.

2k · « **Reply #64 on:** June 03, 2015, 09:33:38 AM »

About 3yrs ago NC put fliers in motorcycle registration packs warning of a severe crackdown on novelty helmets. Everyone I know that wore them then, still do.......never a ticket to N E 1 I No

cambo · « **Reply #65 on:** June 03, 2015, 09:56:57 AM »

Quote from: 2k on June 03, 2015, 09:33:38 AM

About 3yrs ago NC put fliers in motorcycle registration packs warning of a severe crackdown on novelty helmets. Everyone I know that wore them then, still do.......never a ticket to N E 1 I No

This is where meeting someone in real life helps with communication on the internet. I had no problem deciphering the text above in blue. As a matter of fact I just had to look at the text and hear him say that in his own voice! Hey Jimmy come on up and let's go riding. Or I'll have no choice but to get on the bike and show up on your front lawn again!

Cam

Puma · « **Reply #66 on:** June 03, 2015, 09:24:13 PM »

I love the 1960's and 70's style three quarter helmets. My favorite is my Daytona Cruiser with the Easy Rider graphic. It is my understanding that Fulmer made the original for the movie and still makes them today, but they don't do any internet sales. So does anyone live near a place that sells them? The Daytona is a nice small 3/4 helmet, no mushroom/Kazoo look at all, and they got the graphics right, but the stars and stripes are obviously stickers and only the blue is paint. Plus the strap was fraying after about two weeks. A shame, because it is such a comfortable helmet and it might be the only one that I've ever worn that looks half decent on my head, and it's cheap. If I can't get a Fulmer I might get two more Daytonas.

Honneybeast · « **Reply #67 on:** June 03, 2015, 10:34:31 PM »

I live in Missouri and am req to wear a helmet. I wear a ( skid lid ) novelty helmet and have been down at 117 mph with it, yes I was lucky but I believe when your time is up God will punch your ticket and there is nothing you or any government can do about. I will continue to wear my skid lid just to pacify the law, otherwise I wouldn't wear anything at all.

03Lightningrocks · « **Reply #68 on:** June 03, 2015, 10:36:12 PM »

http://www.daytonahelmets.com/d.o.t.-approved-34-shell-helmets?rid=ppc&gclid=CPa_j7CA9cUCFQYzaQodFTkA7w

Puma · « **Reply #69 on:** June 04, 2015, 06:30:45 AM »

Quote from: 03Lightningrocks on June 03, 2015, 10:36:12 PM

http://www.daytonahelmets.com/d.o.t.-approved-34-shell-helmets?rid=ppc&gclid=CPa_j7CA9cUCFQYzaQodFTkA7w

That's what I wear, but without the visor. I think I got a better price somewhere. I'd still like to find a Fulmer, though, but I haven't found a dealer yet, and they don't do internet sales. Sometimes you see an individual selling a used one on ebay, but not often.

J-Carr · « **Reply #70 on:** June 04, 2015, 10:19:39 AM »

It's a bit of a ride for you Puma, but if you head out to Gettysburg Bike Week at all stop in New Oxford at Unique Cycles. It's on Route 30 between York and Gettysburg. They are a Fullmer dealer with in stock inventory. They will ship as well, but its tough if you cant try it on for size. A nice family run business too which is always a bonus.

Puma · « **Reply #71 on:** June 04, 2015, 11:10:28 AM »

Thanks J-Carr. I will give them a call.

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