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Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« on: January 19, 2011, 11:33:05 AM »

Dear members of the CVO Forum

I was just informed that from august 1, that for US-dealers it is not longer allowed to deliver parts to NON-US Customers. >:( >:( :o :o

What the **** thinks HD, they are violating the free trade agreements which are valid worldwide!! These guys in Milwaukee are getting more arrogant and stupid than they should. Now I have to say that HD is getting crazy!!!

We pay in Switzerland 48000 dollars( 46000swiss francs) for a FLHXSE2, most of the parts cost 3 to 4 times more than in USA, but instead of adopting the prices to a reasonable level ,they try to do some sort of prohibition to maximise their profits.
I drive since 25 years HD, I was always a very loyal customer but I have to admit that I am very angry and dissappointed.

I am sure that HD will loose a lot of reputation with this very stupid and illegal behavior!!

I like to know what you think about this strategie from HD?? Am I to severe with them, should this behaviour be accepted?

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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2011, 11:36:31 AM »

So, screw 'em.  Get a buddy state-side to pick stuff up for you and send it over.  Rules like that are too stupid to be tolerated and too easily avoided.  I ship parts to places in Europe or Asia for guys several times a year.
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2011, 11:41:48 AM »

Just wondering where did you hear this... is it posted somewhere (can you provide a link), or did someone tell you this? :nixweiss:

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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 11:44:21 AM »

Just wondering where did you hear this... is it posted somewhere (can you provide a link), or did someone tell you this? :nixweiss:

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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 11:45:32 AM »

It's not much better up here in Canada!! Trev Deeley ( Thee importer of all things Harley) over-charges for bikes and parts. The MOCO has told US dealers they can't sell to Canadians....or else!!

Summer of 2012 I (and a couple others) might rent a beach house in Oregon and each have a utility bill in our name and buy/reg/insure the bike in Oregon for a month of riding....to save $6ooo each!  But...now I think the MOCO may be making the warranties NON-x-ferable.  GRRRR!

Just might be stuck buying in Canada. I have looked through the catalogue( paper and on both the US & CDN site) and have not found HD's own version of KY Jelly...if I use a brand other than their's to 'ease the initial purchase' , does that mean my Canadian warranty is invalid?
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 11:45:43 AM »

IT'S TRUE.  I got a letter from the MOCO about it last week. they say it competes with the overseas dealers. and next is going to be no more selling parts at discounts on the internet
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 11:48:36 AM »

Dear CVO friends

I was informed today by a salesperson from a US dealership that these restrictions will apply from august1!!

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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 11:53:12 AM »

IT'S TRUE.  I got a letter from the MOCO about it last week. they say it competes with the overseas dealers. and next is going to be no more selling parts at discounts on the internet
Does this just pertain to "shipping parts" to Canada and overseas or are they telling the US dealers that if I as a Canadian go into a US dealer to buy parts they are not to sell them to me?
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 12:04:58 PM »

IT'S TRUE.  I got a letter from the MOCO about it last week. they say it competes with the overseas dealers. and next is going to be no more selling parts at discounts on the internet
Can you post the letter?

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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 12:06:48 PM »

There are "re-shippers" on E-bay that I have used in the past ...not for HD stuff....but with others that won't ship to Canada. The Dealer won't even need to know that you are CDN or that it is ultimately getting shipped to Canada. He'll have a US address so his a$$ will be covered.
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 12:27:30 PM »

Does this just pertain to "shipping parts" to Canada and overseas or are they telling the US dealers that if I as a Canadian go into a US dealer to buy parts they are not to sell them to me?

Can't see them asking for ID on every purchase......unless you use your Canadian accent :huepfenlol2:
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 02:22:42 PM »

The irony of the whole matter is HD encourages China shipping to the USA.
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2011, 02:32:15 PM »

Just an addition to the parts restriction. 

A few years back i was up in "Coure D Alane" idaho,  and tried to buy a new SE road king they had on the showroom floor. Some of you may remember that purdy gray/black/blue paint scheme.  Well,  they told me they were not allowed to sell to anyone from California.  I said i was looking for my retirment home up  here and that i will not take the bike to california, and they said as long as i have a california DL they would not / could not sell to me.

now dont that beat all ....  restrictuions within the  US ..
 
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2011, 02:35:45 PM »

I have to ask our foreign brothers and sisters this question. When you speak of cost do you refer to what you pay when you walk into an H-D Dealership in Europe (and elsewhere) ? If so, a HUGE amount of your bottom line cost is shipping costs, tariffs and taxes. 1st, shipping costs have gotten to where they amount to at least a 40% increase in the MSRP of anything. So while we'll pay $100 for an item here stateside, you guys are going to pay $140 Then you add in the tariffs and taxes placed on those items by your country. And that is the biggest issue here. I bear no one any ill will wherever you live. Europe, Asia, South American, Russia whatever but there are very few consumer items sold here in the USA that we Americans pay a tariff on. I am not sure but I believe the luxury tax on certain brand autos expired some time ago. Your companies are free to sell their wares in the USA without the additional cost. As it appears to me every country in the world taxes or adds tarriffs to US goods shipped abroad. The playing field is not level. What it costs you as citizens of those countries is a lot of money to buy US made goods. What it costs us as Americans is jobs. When our companies can't compete with your domestic markets because of tariffs, the products don't get made so there's no need to hire people to do a job that doesn't need doing. Sorry if I've used this thread to rant about trade policies, but to my way of thinking, the entire issue comes down to just that.

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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2011, 03:10:53 PM »

There are "re-shippers" on E-bay that I have used in the past ...not for HD stuff....but with others that won't ship to Canada. The Dealer won't even need to know that you are CDN or that it is ultimately getting shipped to Canada. He'll have a US address so his a$$ will be covered.

Want to make a bet that they get E-bay involved and force them to comply?

It was done with sales tax....
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