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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #105 on: September 15, 2011, 02:00:16 AM »

there used to be many offers for genuine H-D leathers on the Chinese Wholesale website DHGate.com - most of them have disappeared in the last couple of days, no listings to be found there any more under "Harley-Davidson" and just one seller left under "H-D".

It seems the MoCo enforces their new policy even with their Chinese producers ...
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #106 on: September 15, 2011, 03:44:18 AM »

Placed an eBay  bid on a European version of a Battery Tender. Seller was US dealer X. He sent me an ebay message excusing himself saying he was not allowed to sell overseas. He also added that he was not very happy with MoCo policy as internet sales of P&A was good business. Shortly after the listed part was removed from eBay.

My current bike (2011 FLHX) will definitely be my last one. DO YOU HEAR ME, MILWAUKEE!!.
Most accessories were bought via internet from US dealers just in time before HD policy was enfoced.

With a current shop floor price of USD 63 000 for a new FLHX I simply cannot afford to buy accessories at inflated prices (300% higher than US MSRP) from local dealer any more. (BTW if you want a SE FLHX please add another USD 20 000. )

 
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #107 on: September 15, 2011, 08:26:20 AM »

... a current shop floor price of USD 63 000 for a new FLHX ...

that makes Norway the most expensive place for Harleys I've heard of  :nervous:
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #108 on: September 15, 2011, 10:09:54 AM »

Placed an eBay  bid on a European version of a Battery Tender. Seller was US dealer X. He sent me an ebay message excusing himself saying he was not allowed to sell overseas. He also added that he was not very happy with MoCo policy as internet sales of P&A was good business. Shortly after the listed part was removed from eBay.

My current bike (2011 FLHX) will definitely be my last one. DO YOU HEAR ME, MILWAUKEE!!.
Most accessories were bought via internet from US dealers just in time before HD policy was enfoced.

With a current shop floor price of USD 63 000 for a new FLHX I simply cannot afford to buy accessories at inflated prices (300% higher than US MSRP) from local dealer any more. (BTW if you want a SE FLHX please add another USD 20 000. )

 

That's just INSANE...
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #109 on: September 15, 2011, 02:40:50 PM »

that makes Norway the most expensive place for Harleys I've heard of  :nervous:
Switzerland will beat that!  :o

actual exchange-rate 1Sfr = 1.3894 Doller (Source http://de.finance.yahoo.com/waehrungen/waehrungsrechner/#from=EUR;to=USD;amt=1)



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MSRP USA = 37249 $
MSRP Switzerland = 51000 Sfr = 70859.4 $.

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MSRP USA =7999 $
MSRP Switzerland = 11500 Sfr = 15978.1 $.

I was glad to buy my FLTRSE3 at a time the dollar had a far better rate against the Swiss Franc.
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #110 on: September 15, 2011, 03:35:55 PM »

there used to be many offers for genuine H-D leathers on the Chinese Wholesale website DHGate.com - most of them have disappeared in the last couple of days, no listings to be found there any more under "Harley-Davidson" and just one seller left under "H-D".

It seems the MoCo enforces their new policy even with their Chinese producers ...

Crafty (or whatever your choice words may be) Chinese took the words "Harley Davidson" out of the title of the gear, but are still selling it.
http://www.dhgate.com/motorcycle-jackets-men-s-classic-cruiser/p-ff8080812f5756ce012f70ffcb207343.html
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #111 on: September 19, 2011, 02:31:06 PM »

Finally  :apple: :carrot: :jalapeno: :cucumber: somebody came up with the idea of a "Swiss Premium Package" up to 4250chf discount on the top models because of the strong exchange rates!   :2vrolijk_21:

But I`m still not getting my dough out of my wallet for the chit quality bikes!
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #112 on: September 19, 2011, 02:38:20 PM »

that makes Norway the most expensive place for Harleys I've heard of  :nervous:

India is higher!
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #113 on: September 19, 2011, 05:02:51 PM »

China btw seems to be an especially nice place to buy a Harley too: click  ;)
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #114 on: September 20, 2011, 08:50:54 AM »

The tragic thing about all of this is that the US government has opened all our markets to low cost imports via NAFT and GATT.  The countries that export these low cost goods impose huge tariffs on our goods when imported into their countries.
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #115 on: September 20, 2011, 09:45:52 AM »

@Charles:

you should not complain  ;)

The USA are still the third biggest export nation of the world and have tremendously profited from free trade since WW II:

"Since the end of World War II, in part due to industrial supremacy and the onset of the Cold War, the U.S. government has become one of the most consistent proponents of reduced tariff barriers and free trade ..." (url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_trade#The_United_States_and_free_trade]out of wikipedia about free trade[/url])

Free trade may no longer be so much in favour for the US industry as it used to be - but never forget it was the USA who sent Commodore Perry to open up Japan for American trade by force if neccessary  ::)
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #116 on: September 20, 2011, 11:52:07 AM »

The tragic thing about all of this is that the US government has opened all our markets to low cost imports via NAFT and GATT.  The countries that export these low cost goods impose huge tariffs on our goods when imported into their countries.

Maybe GATT, but NAFT has the majority of trade between Canada and the USA... and I would think that having plants offering jobs in Mexico would save you money as the locals might stay and not visit you :D
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #117 on: January 14, 2012, 01:32:17 PM »

The Swiss WEKO (Wettbewerbskommission ~ market competition commission) is investigating
against HD Swiss. The reason is the currency difference is not going to the customer and
you can't import bikes from other european countries. Sorry but the article is in german:

http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/wirtschaft/aktuell/vorabklaerung_gegen_harley-davidson_1.14316491.html
« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 01:49:07 PM by bandit »
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #118 on: January 14, 2012, 01:43:34 PM »

Excellent news!   :)
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