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Re: New HD international sales policy
« Reply #90 on: August 09, 2011, 05:44:33 AM »

Bad news. HD tightens the reins to protect (give monopoly to) overseas authorized dealers . US-based sellers (non-dealers and dealers alike) are no longer permitted to sell directly to end-customers outside USA (unless you are a US military or have an APO address).   

So far M&M Cyles and Zanotti have implemented this new policy.

Meaning European bike owners are gonna be charged triple US retail prices on all accessories from now on.

 :'(

 

As others have said, not new news, but not really an obstacle.  ;)

However, I'd love to see how HD could prevent the "non-dealers" you mention from selling to whoever they like!

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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #91 on: August 09, 2011, 11:28:00 AM »

Sounds like a small business opportunity for someone in the US to buy HD parts (as an individual) and mark them up slightly to ship out to Europe and abroad. You could make a profit, and the customer would still be paying much less than they would in Europe.
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #92 on: August 09, 2011, 03:50:25 PM »

Sounds like a small business opportunity for someone in the US to buy HD parts (as an individual) and mark them up slightly to ship out to Europe and abroad. You could make a profit, and the customer would still be paying much less than they would in Europe.

Heck even with the markups in Canada you could still save our friends from over the pond a tiddy some, and make money doing it!
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Re: New HD international sales policy
« Reply #93 on: August 11, 2011, 08:14:36 AM »


However, I'd love to see how HD could prevent the "non-dealers" you mention from selling to whoever they like!

Jim

A non-dealer told me he no longer gets access to OEM parts. So  he has nothing to sell to whoever he likes.
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #94 on: August 11, 2011, 11:27:51 AM »

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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #95 on: August 11, 2011, 06:30:02 PM »

Sounds like a small business opportunity for someone in the US to buy HD parts (as an individual) and mark them up slightly to ship out to Europe and abroad. You could make a profit, and the customer would still be paying much less than they would in Europe.
I have done that in the past for not only motorcycle parts but car parts as well.
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Re: New HD international sales policy
« Reply #96 on: September 04, 2011, 11:50:17 AM »

A non-dealer told me he no longer gets access to OEM parts. So  he has nothing to sell to whoever he likes.
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I got an e-mail a few weeks ago from M and M Cycles (Mom and Pop) that they can no longer sell Genuine H-D P&A AT ALL... this blows. I've bought a lot of stuff from them. I've also bought a lot of stuff at 20% from Surdyke via their web site... I wonder if THAT will now cease as well...
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #97 on: September 04, 2011, 12:02:16 PM »

I'm glad I live close enough to the US border to poick up a 'load' once in a while. MSRP is bad enough.....5% over was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
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Re: New HD international sales policy
« Reply #98 on: September 06, 2011, 02:30:26 AM »

I got an e-mail a few weeks ago from M and M Cycles (Mom and Pop) that they can no longer sell Genuine H-D P&A AT ALL... this blows. I've bought a lot of stuff from them. I've also bought a lot of stuff at 20% from Surdyke via their web site... I wonder if THAT will now cease as well...

Re Surdyke, here is FAQ copied from their website:

Question: Do you Ship outside the United States?

Answer:  Surdyke.com does not ship any items outside the United States, furthermore, Surdyke.com will not sell parts to anyone who plans to ship these said parts outside the United States.

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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #99 on: September 06, 2011, 06:56:34 AM »

 US HD dealers have to include the vin # of the motorcycle to Harley to the MO Co when an order is placed to ensure the order is not from a sub dealer planning to resell/send these parts elsewhere.Ran into this when I  placed a large order recently.
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #100 on: September 06, 2011, 08:10:16 AM »

I wonder how many Genuine parts sales are lost now?  I can already see my bank account growing due to this.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #101 on: September 06, 2011, 03:05:48 PM »

I wonder how many Genuine parts sales are lost now?  I can already see my bank account growing due to this.  :2vrolijk_21:

Mine too! I have bought my last HARLEY DAVIDSON in 2007, dont know if my feeling will weaken in the future but only if the quality and reliability improves
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #102 on: September 06, 2011, 04:00:37 PM »

Mine too! I have bought my last HARLEY DAVIDSON in 2007, dont know if my feeling will weaken in the future but only if the quality and reliability improves
The quarter they just reported was not good.  They fell from double-diget growth the two previous quarters in sales.  Guess we're not the only ones that are not seeing the love from the MoCo.  spyder
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #103 on: September 13, 2011, 08:24:38 PM »

The quarter they just reported was not good.  They fell from double-diget growth the two previous quarters in sales.  Guess we're not the only ones that are not seeing the love from the MoCo.  spyder

Well, the MoCo is a business, and I can't blame them for looking out after their own interests. Any business is primarily responsible to the residual owners - the stockholders - and if I were a HOG stock owner (I'm not), I would expect them to do everything they could to protect my investment in the company, and make it grow. Unfortunately, all too often this means that the customers end up being the losers. I still like the MoCo a LOT better than I do AT&T, though!
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Re: Sale restrictions for NON US Customers starting this year
« Reply #104 on: September 14, 2011, 07:46:04 AM »

Each new bike is imported into Canada at just over 50 cents on the dollar while the executives at Deeley (Harley) Canada force Canadians to pay inflated prices. These same execs continue to receive their huge salaries and extravagant bonuses. Sadly the Motor Company has become very good at biting the hands the feed them.

Come on now Egultrac, let's be fair...  ;)

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2012 Sportster Super Low US MSRP - $7,999  CND MSRP $8,779

If it really was 50 cents on the dollar as you say, the CND $ would be much higher.

Having said that, I hear what you're saying though... With the Canadian dollar running ABOVE par for many months now, we all wonder why the gap is still so much as compared to the US price.  :nixweiss:
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