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[Spiderman]

Who says Jr doesn't use as well? He's a pretty big boy.

Nobody says he doesn't. A couple of observations however. Jr is in his early 30's and is muscled up but also not "cut" or defined which is usually a clear indicator of steroid use. As someone else mentioned, Sr gained muscle mass and definition while in his 50's. I don't think medical science would support the possibility of that occuring naturally. Also, wouldn't it seem that since the time frame involved in the accusations against Sr was when Sr/Jr were still getting along (in their own special way LOL) that Jr's name would have come up as well. Somehow I can't see Sr buying dope for Jr. I look at Jr and I see a guy who bodywise looks like the average 30's something guy these days that works out and looks after his diet to a reasonable degree. JMHO

Still waiting to start counting all the OCC bikes out there on the streets that are paying for OCC's megamillions World HQ

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[harleyteam]

I've seen 2 of their showbikes, and talked the show people into trying to start them.  one wouldn't start at all, the second, the show reps said outright, that it's strictly for show and doesn't run.

and the Twerps,( I mean Turtles, oops,  Tuetles,   OH CHIT ,  WHATEVER)

ride Harleys

[roadking71865]

Although not always the case BUT, when  61 yr. old man is built like him there is usually more to it than just a good diet and exercise.  From 40 on you loose 8% of muscle mass every 10 years.  Some guys have better genetics than others but when you have traps coming out your ears something just isn't right.

[Spiderman]

 13,711 members of cvoharley.com and we can count the OCC bikes we've seen on one hand ?  Methinks the "shop" we see on the TV show is all there is to OCC's motorcycle operations. The remainder of that giant building is a sweat shop cranking out the previously mentioned mechandise

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[td119]

I agree with everyone, the only OCC production bike I have seen has been on "Wild Hogs" the movie never see one at any rallies !!! 

[dlaws01]

Is it just me or does all their "custom bikes" look the same? 

[Spiderman]

Is it just me or does all their "custom bikes" look the same?  

They have the same basic lines yes. I think this is why the last couple of bikes they've tried some different things like the custom girder front end on a recent bike and changing up wheel sizes etc. Jr's recent effort for the Insurance Co in Florida was a nice touch with the ghost gas tank. I agree with his comments on design being an ongoing process that you can't always put on paper and follow to the letter. You start with a few basic ideas and begin work and let the bike speak to you as to where it should go. I know that sounds crazy but I believe in it. I don't think Arlen Ness ever actually sat down and drew up the bike he was going to build nor did Jesse James when he was really putting some blood and sweat into it. Same thing with Perowitz and Simms and a whole lot of other guys I'm not mentioning here. Designing bikes on a CAD station is for creating something you want to build large quantities of, not for creating one of kind customs. I more than paid my dues sitting at a CAD station for a number of years and the nature of the AUTODESK AUTOCAD program is to fair all of the lines and angles together. While that works nice on ships, on motorcycles, it tends to create a certain similarity in the flow of the bike. Again, JMHO

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[cvobiker]

I think Paul Jr's last bike,, the tankless bike, is one of his best   

[jayray00SERG]

The OCC logo is on clothing and hats. Any available production numbers on Bikes?

[Spiderman]

The OCC logo is on clothing and hats. Any available production numbers on Bikes?

Not that I'd want to (hell you couldn't give me one) but I've never been able to find anything on-line about buying a bike from OCC. I'd be interested to hear if anyone can find production numbers listed anywhere


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[16HD117]

Lot of OCC bibes for sale on Ebay!


http://toys.shop.ebay.com/Diecast-Toy-Vehicles-/222/i.html?_nkw=occ+motorcycle&_catref=1&_dmpt=Diecast_Vehicles&_fln=1&_sop=16&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282

[iski]

When you're that kind of a "celebrity" you simply don't have time to ride.  You stay very busy herding your sycophants and working at looking cool.  The moderators have the same problem at the GTG's.  It's Dood's fault.

The moderatators are cool looking celebrity sycophant herders that stay very busy?

Must be Dood's fault. 

Am too poor to be a sycophant but if I save up may make it to that level someday. 

[iski]

Lot of OCC bibes for sale on Ebay!


http://toys.shop.ebay.com/Diecast-Toy-Vehicles-/222/i.html?_nkw=occ+motorcycle&_catref=1&_dmpt=Diecast_Vehicles&_fln=1&_sop=16&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282

$8.99 to $126.  Seems reasonable enough but not not really interested due to bad karma & all.

[CVOJOE]

Maybe Sr. was using the Barry Bonds flaxseed magic ointment?     

[porthole]

Methinks the "shop" we see on the TV show is all there is to OCC's motorcycle operations. The remainder of that giant building is a sweat shop cranking out the previously mentioned mechandise

What you see of the "shop" is the shop. There are a couple of other rooms, one having all the water jet stuff. The shop looks bigger on TV then it really is. Normal perspective I guess for the TV world.
The retail side looks to be larger then the whole shop. The retail side is probably 50% vacant. There is a lot of empty space in the building. The underground garage supposedly can hold about 100 vehicles.

Footprint wise, there appears to be more room taken up by the shop then there is exterior space.

I did not see any areas to to suggest a "sweat shop cranking out the previously mentioned merchandise". I'm sure most of the store stuff, like every other store, is imported.

Is it just me or does all their "custom bikes" look the same? 

Just like all the Bourget's - Indian Larry's, etc etc etc all look the same.

With thousands of custom builders pumping out 10's of thousands custom bikes, just how unique can you make 2-3 wheels, a frame, engine and some way to steer?