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[BigLew55]

Still reading them....

[Fired00d]

Still reading them....

It would be nice to post the link while you reading.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[BigLew55]

It would be nice to post the link while you reading.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

I assumed anyone who was interested had ity already. 

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2014/2014.php

[BigLew55]

CVOs next year:
CVO Ultra Limited
CVO Road King
CVO Breakout
CVO Deluxe

Same displacements.

Only other model to note was a Street Glide Special?

[Fired00d]

I assumed anyone who was interested had ity already. 

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2014/2014.php

If that was the case you wouldn't had to create a thread about it. Thanks.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[BigLew55]

If that was the case you wouldn't had to create a thread about it. Thanks.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Fair enough.   

[North Georgia Hawg]

WHOO-HOO!!! No SESG!   

Ken

[BigLew55]

WHOO-HOO!!! No SESG!   

Ken

No CVO Springer either, if that's how we're keeping score...

 

[North Georgia Hawg]

No CVO Springer either, if that's how we're keeping score...

 

That's how I'm keeping score... I want my bike to stay the most current (last?) SESG.

Ken

[Fired00d]

That's how I'm keeping score... I want my bike to stay the most current (last?) SESG.

Ken

Still not as good as the first year (of two) of the SEEG.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[Fired00d]

That's how I'm keeping score... I want my bike to stay the most current (last?) SESG.

Ken

Still not as good as the first year (of two) of the SEEG.

And I should add... the only year of the Orange and Black SEEG

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[SBB]

The 2011 SESG was black and orange, officially known as Black Diamond/Inferno Orange!
Jorge has one.

SBB

[Fired00d]

The 2011 SESG was black and orange, officially known as Black Diamond/Inferno Orange!
Jorge has one.

SBB

That's why I said...

And I should add... the only year of the Orange and Black SEEG
...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[North Georgia Hawg]

Still not as good as the first year (of two) of the SEEG.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

Weeeeellll... we might have to discuss THAT over some beers one day... but your ORANGE '04 SEEG is definitely one gorgeous machine, d00d!   

I am admittedly just a wee bit biased as to color, tho... But I like any color as long as it's ORANGE!!!

Ken

[Fired00d]

Weeeeellll... we might have to discuss THAT over some beers one day... but your ORANGE '04 SEEG is definitely one gorgeous machine, d00d!   

I am admittedly just a wee bit biased as to color, tho... But I like any color as long as it's ORANGE!!!

Ken

Thanks, sounds like a plan. You already got the two main things I look at when judging people... you like beer and orange Harley's.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[dlaws01]

The moco is soooooooo predictable.   

[SBB]

That's why I said...

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

I knew that.
But I didn't want your post to confuse anyone into thinking the only orange and black Screamin Eagle was the 04 SEEG.
Actually the first orange and black Screamin Eagle was the 2000 SERG. Then another SERG orange and black in 09.


SBB

[CowboyBagger]

The pool boy was wrong about "No CVO Breakout"

Cowboy

[OBB]

How does one go about reading it to see which is liquid cooled and which isn't?

[YELLOWBIRD]

Okay Gang,

Well it just posted.

Looks like this year we will see the following:

CVO Breakout, Deluxe, Road King, and Ultra Classic!

Someone smarter then me please post it up!

 

Ride On,

YB

[YELLOWBIRD]

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Highway Motorcycles Executive Orders - 2014
New Executive Orders added August 15, 2013

Listed below are links to the Executive Orders for Highway Motorcycles for the 2014 year.  To resort alphabetically or by date, please click on the header "Executive Orders" or "Modified."

File name of Executive Orders for Highway Motorcycles:  
Manufacturer_EO Number_All Engine Displacements (in cc)_HC or HC+NOx Standard_Standard Type 4.  Click HERE for an explanation of the information displayed in the file name of Executive Orders.

Executive Orders   Modified

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Here you go!


YB

[YELLOWBIRD]

Okay Gang,

Well it just posted.

Looks like this year we will see the following:

CVO Breakout, Deluxe, Road King, and Ultra Classic!

Can't tell but it looks like no Water Motor.

Someone smarter then me please post it up!

 

Ride On,

YB

[YELLOWBIRD]

Double post!

[Zinister]

link to website

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2014/2014.php

[cropsure]

Interested to see what the CVO Deluxe will look like...  Might be a pretty sharp bike!

[metfancowboy]

Anxious to see the Deluxe.

[Lever]

your gonna have to break my fingers for my convertible before I would give her up ....

[Aussie]

Interested to see what the CVO Deluxe will look like...  Might be a pretty sharp bike!

IMO It will be the pick of the CVO's this year.

[clubhes]

Agree.
Also interested in how they follow-up the CVO Breakout paint.

[Twolanerider]

How does one go about reading it to see which is liquid cooled and which isn't?

You can't.  That information isn't detailed in those reports.  Best you can do is infer what changes might be based on reported emissions differences.  So while the following tells us absolutely nothing specifically for those that are sure there is something unheard to be learned by tossed runes or pool boy ruminations consider the following:

If you look at the emissions outputs for the reports that cover the CVO Ultras from 2012 to 2013 the emissions outputs are unchanged.  Since the bikes stayed the same that's not surprising.  12 and 13 stayed the same.  2014, however, changes.  Quite a bit actually.  So while some of us may know for sure what has changed, what color it is and how many bubbles it blows the only thing I really know is something has changed.  Everyone can have fun trying to figure out what it is for another few days until the bikes are released...  

[CVO2012]

Saddly there is no CVO SG

[OBB]

You can't.  That information isn't detailed in those reports.  Best you can do is infer what changes might be based on reported emissions differences.  So while the following tells us absolutely nothing specifically for those that are sure there is something unheard to be learned by tossed runes or pool boy ruminations consider the following:

If you look at the emissions outputs for the reports that cover the CVO Ultras from 2012 to 2013 the emissions outputs are unchanged.  Since the bikes stayed the same that's not surprising.  12 and 12 stayed the same.  2014, however, changes.  Quite a bit actually.  So while some of us may know for sure what has changed, what color it is and how many bubbles it blows the only thing I really know is something has changed.  Everyone can have fun trying to figure out what it is for another few days until the bikes are released... 

That's an answer. Guess we'll just chomp at the bit for another week. Thanks TLR 

[DCFIREMANN]

Still not as good as the first year (of two) of the SEEG.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

EXACTALY!!!! They were hardest to put your hands on. Most were sold before the dealer meeting was over!!!

Still kinda wondering about the CVO ULTRA LIMITED? Looks like the the limited is top of the line again. But the Limited comes pretty well equipped. Sooooo are they just changing the names of the line up?? I'm still wondering about the water cooled touring bikes I was told about. Are they being produced now or are they going to be a mid year release??? Inquiring minds want to know.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[naitram]

a CVO Ultra Limited? isnt that a bit redundant?

[DCFIREMANN]

a CVO Ultra Limited? isnt that a bit redundant?

I was thinking the same thing. I posted on another thread about it. Looks like some name changing on the current models.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[YELLOWBIRD]

Just spoke to a buddy who is a sale guys at the local dealer.

He said that next week, they have to have a 6 hour online training class regarding the new models.

Maybe the touch screen radio is true?   

I can see it now... "New" turn of the century radio for only $1900.00   


YB

[acevtwin]

So now we know what they will be. Now we wait to see if there will be any Orange / Black combo's! The Deluxe CVO sounds interesting.

[Senator]

Harley web page gets updated Monday with the new colors.

[North Georgia Hawg]

The Deluxe is a beautiful bike. In CVO trim it should be a real head-turner.

Is this the first year with two different CVO Softails?

Ken

[acevtwin]

The Deluxe is a beautiful bike. In CVO trim it should be a real head-turner.

Is this the first year with two different CVO Softails?

Ken

Yes, Kinda wierd

[iski]

a CVO Ultra Limited? isnt that a bit redundant?

Yes, but there is a marketing reason behind it, probably.  Made we wonder if they are considering a "Limited" trim level on other model styles (Softails?) besides Touring.  Or maybe they extend the term Limited to the Trike eventually?

[Twolanerider]

a CVO Ultra Limited? isnt that a bit redundant?

Harley will use any reason to justify a higher price point.  Even redundancy. 



Remember, we're not supposed to think about this stuff too much......

[Buy early]

Harley will use any reason to justify a higher price point.  Even redundancy.  



Remember, we're not supposed to think about this stuff too much......

Could be the CVO Ultra Limited Edition Special Anniversary Limited Special Edition Limited

[Twolanerider]

Could be the CVO Ultra Limited Edition Special Anniversary Limited Special Edition Limited

But that's only it's shorthand name Mark.  The full name is really a mouth full:

CVO Ultra Limited Edition Special Anniversary Limited Edition Screamin' Eagle Ultra Addition to the Edition that is Limited; Rally Sport Super Super Sport (amen).




(Harley is such a donk sometimes, they make making fun of them way too easy...)

[JustDennis]

Looks like Harley posted to ARB

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/.../2014/2014.php

I see a CVO Breakout, Deluxe, RoadKing and Ultra.  Did I miss any?  Was wondering if they would do another CVO SG.

[North Georgia Hawg]

But that's only it's shorthand name Mark.  The full name is really a mouth full:

CVO Ultra Limited Edition Special Anniversary Limited Edition Screamin' Eagle Ultra Addition to the Edition that is Limited; Rally Sport Super Super Sport (amen).




(Harley is such a donk sometimes, they make making fun of them way too easy...)

At this point, the terms "Harley" and "Sport" REALLY just don't go together at all!

Ken

[StreetDog]

 WHEN I WENT TO THE SITE IT SAID "DOCUMENT NOT FOUND". I guess they pulled it off their site for some reason.

[Twolanerider]

WHEN I WENT TO THE SITE IT SAID "DOCUMENT NOT FOUND". I guess they pulled it off their site for some reason.

There is already another thread or three on this (unless Dood has merged them all).  The pages are still displaying.  The link above isn't working but the site is.  Try this link instead:

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2014/2014.php

[iski]

Could be the CVO Ultra Limited Edition Special Anniversary Limited Special Edition Limited

    Most excellent!

If only it was also Certified, Verified, and Reserved.  With maybe another Limited or 2.

[Buy early]

Always liked the acronyms SERG and SERK. We could be lining up for the 2014 CVO Screamin' Eagle Extra - Special Trick Ultra Premier Injected Deluxe

[YELLOWBIRD]

Wonder if the motor company is going to do a "mid-year" model?

And surprise us all with something different.   

YB

[RedMoon]

2014 Harley-Davidson Models, Including Some “Cool” Surprises     http://blog.motorcycle.com/2013/08/16/manufacturers/harley-davidson/carb-reveals-2014-harley-davidson-models-including-some-cool-surprises/

[Twolanerider]

2014 Harley-Davidson Models, Including Some “Cool” Surprises     http://blog.motorcycle.com/2013/08/16/manufacturers/harley-davidson/carb-reveals-2014-harley-davidson-models-including-some-cool-surprises/

Nothing there we hadn't already pointed out here and speculated from.

[spydglide]

Uh oh........they're 'jumping ship'.  Wonder if these new Indians will have more or less 'bugs' than the Harleys?  spyder

[Twolanerider]

Here's the graphic illustrating the 2012-2014 variations that had been posted in another thread a couple days ago.

[North Georgia Hawg]

Here's the graphic illustrating the 2012-2014 variations that had been posted in another thread a couple days ago.

HUGE emissions differences for the 2014 bike! They are WAY down. Something has to explain how they are achieving that.

Perhaps if they are going to liquid cooling, if only for the heads, they can run even more lean without the prohibitive heat of a purely-air-cooled engine.

Ken

[FLHTCUSE7]

Project Rushmore?

[jr1000yarder]

The ECS System appears to be different. No SFI??

All I can see

Rich

[LC110]

New radio New Rushmore Fairing?

[Grizzly]

Possibly they're calling it a CVO Ultra Limited because they're not sure if a liquid cooled engine will sell? 

[DCFIREMANN]

The liquid cooled motor is not speculation!!!!! I have a friend that works in the Final Assembly Plant. He told me there was a liquid cooled motor and they were having problems. He did mention the STREET GLIDE!!! He would tell me nothing else PERIOD!!!! He would not tell me if the problems were in the assembly of the unit or with the running unit. He also would not let me know anything about anything CVO!!!

Tomorrow is the day we can all start bitching!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[spydglide]

The liquid cooled motor is not speculation!!!!! I have a friend that works in the Final Assembly Plant. He told me there was a liquid cooled motor and they were having problems. He did mention the STREET GLIDE!!! He would tell me nothing else PERIOD!!!! He would not tell me if the problems were in the assembly of the unit or with the running unit. He also would not let me know anything about anything CVO!!!

Tomorrow is the day we can all start bitching!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

In what manner did he mention the STREET GLIDE?  spyder

[porthole]

In what manner did he mention the STREET GLIDE?  spyder

com'on sypdy 

He did mention the STREET GLIDE!!! He would tell me nothing else PERIOD!!!!

You know Mike would never give up the secrets he was sworn to!

[OBB]

I bet tomorrow morning all the people that are "in the know" will finally be able to breathe a sigh of relief from people begging for info. But then again, I'm sure that's a yearly thing for them.

[grc]

As long as you don't mind only riding when it rains, Harleys have always been "water" cooled.  What's the big deal?

Jerry

[North Georgia Hawg]

The liquid cooled motor is not speculation!!!!! I have a friend that works in the Final Assembly Plant. He told me there was a liquid cooled motor and they were having problems. He did mention the STREET GLIDE!!! He would tell me nothing else PERIOD!!!! He would not tell me if the problems were in the assembly of the unit or with the running unit. He also would not let me know anything about anything CVO!!!

Tomorrow is the day we can all start bitching!!!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

The SG Special is listed in the CARB sheets with the rest of the touring bikes with the higher emissions numbers, so it probably isn't liquid cooling on that bike. Only the CVO Ultra Limited, the Ultra Limited, and the Ultra Limited Shrine edition are on the separate lower emissions sheet.

I wonder if it's liquid cooling, CANBUS, or a combination of the two that is producing the lower emissions number on the Limiteds? It would be weird for them to finally come out with CANBUS for the touring bikes - but only on the Limiteds.

We will all find out soon!

Ken

[iski]

As long as you don't mind only riding when it rains, Harleys have always been "water" cooled.  What's the big deal?

Jerry

That is a good point Jerry.  Sometimes I have been water cooled at the same time, and there was nothing special about it.   

Given Harley's track record on reliability of new intros, if you are riding a new liquid cooled bike, there is a good chance both you & the bike could be randomly liquid cooled, depending on how big the leak (s?) is?.

 

[DCFIREMANN]

com'on sypdy 


You know Mike would never give up the secrets he was sworn to!

I don't want to get the guy fired. He said WATER COOLED!!!! He also said problems with the Street Glide. He did not say the Street Glide was water cooled. He never told me the problems with the Street Glide. He never placed the WATER COOLED and the STREET GLIDE together. We will know tomorrow which models are water cooled. For me I could care less. I am not buying a new bike this year. Hell I just got one and can't even ride it right now.

SOOOOOOOO I wonder how many people on the site are watching HD's web site through the night?

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[Buy early]

Things are getting out of hand here with the speculation. I know a guy who knows a gal who dates a guy who has a son who knows how to spell Harly Davidsun. He says, and I say this with complete confidence, that Harley is coming out with a water cooler. It will hold 5 1/2 gallons of water and will be able to be used in any businness. There will be a set of chrome (or black if you choose) accessories that will allow you to mount this water cooler to your motorcicle, thereby giving you a Harley Davidson with a water cooler.

You can now all quit speculating on just what the carb sheet tea leaves foretell.

[porthole]

Things are getting out of hand here with the speculation.

You can now all quit speculating on just what the carb sheet tea leaves foretell.

Coming from a guy with a screen name of buy early 

[Buy early]

Coming from a guy with a screen name of buy early  

Exactly! I already have my Harley Davidson water cooler on pre-order. Keep in mind, the spy photo below was of an earlier 3 gallon prototype model, but you can see the eagle wings and barely make out the name. Of course, I am really hoping they make a chrome model. I realize black is the new fad but nothing beats chrome!

It's easy to see how flashy these will look mounted on either a touring bike, bagger, or bar hopper.

I'm guessing the spigot will leak for at least the first two model years and you can tell they still hadn't figured what type of hinges to use for the lid.

[LC110]

I like this kind of water cooling. Is that a limited on the left And look at those lowers on the right

[YELLOWBIRD]

I like this kind of water cooling. Is that a limited on the left And look at those lowers on the right

Just to fair,




I would have to say: I would ride anyone of those, watercooled or not


 

YB

[LC110]

I did hear that, Modine mfg. Racine , WI. has been awarded the contract for Harley Radiators.
I don't know if it is water or oil. Would make a few phone calls but why. We will all find out in a few hours anyway.

[naitram]

built in nav

[LC110]

New Pic found another forum

[LC110]

New CVO Softail Deluxe?

[spydglide]

Looks like a scoop in the fairing.  Hard to tell much from those angles.  spyder

[jeffj]

looks like a CVO Deluxe

[LC110]

Go here for better pics Click next top right.

[North Georgia Hawg]

New CVO Softail Deluxe?

Nice paint, but those chintzy little bags look like $89 JC Whitney specials... especially next to the beautiful Indian leather bags on the Vintage!

Ken

[LC110]

Redesigned Fatbob and New lower fairing for Twin Cooled Twin Cam on Limited CVO???

[ThunderBueller]

New hard bags on the Touring bikes.

[OBB]

New CVO Softail Deluxe?

I'm thinking it has the wrong air cleaner for a CVO

[naitram]

New hard bags on the Touring bikes.

whats different?

[LC110]

You can see the radiators on the trike pic.

[Fired00d]

whats different?

Tops different... is that a hinge in the back??

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[ThunderBueller]

whats different?

The shape, size and latches.

[LC110]

CVO Limited and Road King. Twin cooled - Twin Cam 110 Engines. Reflex linked brakes. Redesigned Batwing faring with split stream vent. Advanced infotainment. Built in GPS. Connect with Bluetooth. voice recognition for sound, phone, nav. Redesigned lighting. High output 103s with improved horsepower and torque'

[YELLOWBIRD]

Looks like a new designed tourpak back rest too.


YB

[LC110]

[spydglide]

lookin' more like a Boss Hogg all the time.  har.  spyder

[sadunbar]

I'll be curious to see the weight of the water cooled bikes...

[TinSpinner]

It appears they still have the oil cooler. Evidently only the heads are cooled by the radiator as most expected. Kinda looks like an afterthought or aftermarket approach . Maybe I was expecting something more along the lines of the v-rod engine for the wet ones.

[YELLOWBIRD]

The rims on the CVO Deluxe look their from the CVO Ultra Classic from 2007.

Also looks like for the new Road King, NO more lowers and the speakers.

YB

[DCFIREMANN]

Things are getting out of hand here with the speculation. I know a guy who knows a gal who dates a guy who has a son who knows how to spell Harly Davidsun. He says, and I say this with complete confidence, that Harley is coming out with a water cooler. It will hold 5 1/2 gallons of water and will be able to be used in any businness. There will be a set of chrome (or black if you choose) accessories that will allow you to mount this water cooler to your motorcicle, thereby giving you a Harley Davidson with a water cooler.

You can now all quit speculating on just what the carb sheet tea leaves foretell.

I didn't speculate!!! I know what I was told by a person that puts them together for a living!!! Glad I bought last year!!!

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[bigdave110]

x2   

[naitram]

wet heads

[Fired00d]

wet heads

Wonder how much they'll charge for the braided stainless line upgrade for all that rubber/plastic hose?

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[spydglide]

Wonder how much they'll charge for the braided stainless line upgrade for all that rubber/plastic hose?

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

You don't like the cold/hot color-coordinated hoses, D00d?  har.  spyder

[Fired00d]

You don't like the cold/hot color-coordinated hoses, D00d?  har.  spyder

You know they have to/will be upgradeable.... just wouldn't be right if the MoCo didn't offer a chrome/braided version for owners to upgrade too.

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 

[dlaws01]

You don't like the cold/hot color-coordinated hoses, D00d?  har.  spyder

That's for the service technicians at the dealership's benefit, so they don't get them crossed over.  Let me fix it boss, always wanted to work on a harley davidson.   

[Senator]

Not digging the new bikes.