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[FR8TRN]

Valero buys sour oil from Venezuela too and refines it in Aruba.  It is how they got so big....

Chevron pumps lots from Africa, the north slope and the gulf...refines alot in the SF bay area.

Dont matter, Aramco is big, bigger than you think.

But wait, Valero is on the list of can use stations from the new never before seen list shown here that defines how Americans should be spending their hard earned cash.  That couldn't possibly be the case, the originator of this has done all the research and verified every barrel of oil thru the US Department of Energy.

[110tHunDer]

 

Yeah ya'll are right, snopes is wrong on this one, just because the number of barrels is identical to 2005, it could just be coincidence, maybe they bought the exact same amount again.  This is actually the first time I've ever seen this particular boycott post, it's great, whoever came up with the idea is a genius.  Too bad I have to buy gas based on convenience, I do believe there is a Valero in Delaware I could drive to when I need gas, should be 100-150 mile round-trip everytime, no big deal.

I put it in bold so it would be believeable on the internet.....

OK, time to pull the ol' BS meter out on this thread and see once and for all ...



Yep, that's what I thought.

[Screamin]

A couple of good links.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/experts/contactexperts.htm

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/cli.html

[FR8TRN]

OK, time to pull the ol' BS meter out on this thread and see once and for all ...



Yep, that's what I thought.

Not sure why ya wouldn't believe me, I put it in bold.....what else do ya want???   

[Hoist!]

Yeah, tear it apart and keep buying ME or V oil! Or maybe do the research to insure we don't buy that chit and post it here yourself! Youze must be a buncha friggin commies, terrorists or liberals!

Hoist!

[iski]

snopes is bullchit - quite a bit of the stuff there are just the IDEAS of the folks who run it. They have opinions and they have an agenda. It's in their "analysis".  Been debunked by folks with more time than me to look into such stuff, also.

People who want to believe stuff like snopes - fine - but don't expect me or a lot of others to just accept it because they said it.  Same reason I do not trust places like mediamatters - their agenda is obvious.

As to the veracity of the email - it is easy enough to decide which brands of gas to buy for whatever reasons you choose.  My point here was not the veracity or lack thereof of the email - it is to take a jab at snopes since I find sites such as snopes to be fallacious & a lousy info source.

[iski]

Yeah, tear it apart and keep buying ME or V oil! Or maybe do the research to insure we don't buy that chit and post it here yourself! Youze must be a buncha friggin commies, terrorists or liberals!

Hoist!

I think it's the commies, Howie.  Snopes is run by commies.

 



BUY AMERICAN!

[grc]

As long as consumer's continue to believe in the bogey man (Saudi Arabia) being the cause of spiking fuel prices, and ignore the real cause of the huge price spikes of recent history (speculators), nothing will change.  Just like the rhetoric that indicated the government would re-regulate the system following the financial system collapse (still waiting on that one, aren't we), there was plenty of lip flapping from our government about regulating the energy markets to prevent the bogus price manipulations.  Even the oil companies have complained about the market manipulations, since they can't predict their own costs in a market that doesn't respond to market conditions like supply and demand.  Well, here we are about to enter another season of price gouging that totally ignores supply and demand, and I don't see any controls yet on the jerks on Wall Street that are sticking it to us again.

Rather than boycott Saudi oil (good luck with that), spend your time browbeating your supposed representatives in Congress. 

Jerry

[Twolanerider]

It's true that the largest importer of crude to America is a real threat.  A paramount danger to the American economy and our national wellbeing.  The mix of production and delivery systems makes it practically impossible to boycott an entire geographic region's production.  Just not feasible.  One target at a time, however, would be a more manageable exercise and would allow us as consumers much greater flexibility as we travel through our days.

That being said a more realisitic but still politically and economically persuasive reaction would be to boycott that single leading importer of oil to the United States.  That country from far away with its sandy beaches, another from its region that accepts American soldiers on its soil but isn't proud of doing so, a country that literally looks "down" on the US.  I say it for all to read, we should boycott the oil production of that largest importer to the United States.  For our national wellbeing and as a show of our national will.  It's time we started boycotting Canadian oil!!

(ooops.... when a discussion has bullchit as its foundation you just never know where it'll end up...)

[martys]

It's true that the largest importer of crude to America is a real threat.  A paramount danger to the American economy and our national wellbeing.  The mix of production and delivery systems makes it practically impossible to boycott an entire geographic region's production.  Just not feasible.  One target at a time, however, would be a more manageable exercise and would allow us as consumers much greater flexibility as we travel through our days.

That being said a more realisitic but still politically and economically persuasive reaction would be to boycott that single leading importer of oil to the United States.  That country from far away with its sandy beaches, another from its region that accepts American soldiers on its soil but isn't proud of doing so, a country that literally looks "down" on the US.  I say it for all to read, we should boycott the oil production of that largest importer to the United States.  For our national wellbeing and as a show of our national will.  It's time we started boycotting Canadian oil!!

(ooops.... when a discussion has bullchit as its foundation you just never know where it'll end up...)

OUCH    WELL I GUESS THAT MEANS I HAVE TO CAP MY PERSONAL OIL WELL TL 


Yeah....like I got an oil well "eh"

[Twolanerider]

OUCH    WELL I GUESS THAT MEANS I HAVE TO CAP MY PERSONAL OIL WELL TL 


Yeah....like I got an oil well "eh"

Dammit Marty, straws and a sippee (sic ?) cup don't count!  You're below the production quota!!

[Gone Fishin']

Well, I don't buy CITGO. (Period). I'd rather push the bike. And I think it is smart to avoid M.E. oil, if at all possible.

Having said that, the little article Hoist has posted, is really outdated, and a simple Google search on "The following gas companies import Middle Eastern oil" (just one of the sentences) shows you more than 7.500 results.

So what? I'll repeat: Well, I don't buy CITGO. (Period). I'd rather push the bike. And I think it is smart to avoid M.E. oil, if at all possible.

It's the message, not the messenger ;-).

Ride safely,
Louis

[Hoist!]

Alphabetical list of companies
This is a selected list of petroleum companies in alphabetical order.

Abu Dhabi National Oil Company (ADNOC), United Arab Emirates
Agip Oil company
AinMine Petroleum
Aker Geo AS, Norway
Alon USA, United States
Hess Corporation, United States
Anadarko Petroleum Corporation, United States
Apache Corporation, United States
Arabian Gulf Oil Company (AGOCO), Libya
Arbusto Energy, United States
Assam Oil Company Ltd. (ACL), India
Atlantic Petroleum, Faroe Islands
Bharat Petroleum Corporation Limited, India
BG Group, United Kingdom
BHP Billiton, Australia
BreitBurn Energy, United States
Buzachi Petroleum Operating, Kazakhstan
BP, United Kingdom
Cairn Energy, United Kingdom
Canadian Natural Resources, Canada
Chevron Corporation, United States
Chem-Energy Corporation,United States
Chief Oil and Gas, United States
Citgo, Venezuela
CNOOC Ltd., China
ConocoPhillips, United States
Cooper Energy, Australia
Cosmo Oil Company, Japan
Crown Central Petroleum, United States
Cupet, Cuba
Det Norske Oljeselskap ASA, Norway
Devon Energy, United States
Dong, Denmark
Ecopetrol, Colombia
Edoardo Raffinerie Garrone, Italy
Enbridge, Canada
EnCana, Canada
Energopetrol, Bosnia
ENSCO International, United States
Eni, Italy
ENX, Switzerland
ENXRU, Russia
Essar oil ltd., India
Entreprise Tunisienne d'Activites Petroliere (ETAP), Tunisia
Eser Corporation, United States
ExxonMobil, United States
First Texas Energy Corporation, United States
Flying J, United States
Galp Energia, Portugal
Petronet LNG Limited, India
Gujarat Gas Co. Ltd., India
Gujarat State Petroleum Corporation, India
Gulf Oil, Luxembourg
Greka Energy, United States
Grupa LOTOS, Poland
Hellenic Petroleum, Greece
Hess Corporation, United States
Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd, India
Husky Energy, Canada
IB Daiwa, Japan
Imperial Oil, Canada
INA – Industrija Nafte, Croatia
Indian Oil Corporation, India
Inpex, Japan
Irving Oil, Canada
IQ Petroleum, USA
Japan Energy, Japan
Japan Petroleum Exploration Company Limited (JAPEX), Japan
Kaz-Munay Gaz, Kazakhstan
Karazhanbas Munay, Kazakhstan
Koch Industries, United States
Kuwait German Petroleum Company, Canada
Kuwait Gulf Oil Company, Kuwait
Kuwait National Petroleum Company Kuwait.
Kuwait Oil Company, Kuwait
Kuwait Petroleum Corporation, Kuwait
LUKoil, Russia
M3nergy Gamma SDN. BHD., Malaysia
Maersk, Denmark
Marathon Oil Corporation, United States
Maurel & Prom, France
mari Gas Company Limited, pakistan
Maxol Group, Republic of Ireland
MedcoEnergi, Indonesia
Mol Group, Hungary
Naftna Industrija Srbije, Serbia
Naftogas of Ukraine, Ukraine
National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC), Iran
National Oil Corporation, Libya
Neste Oil, Finland
Nexen, Canada
Nippon Oil, Japan
NNPC, Nigeria
Northern Resources[1], Canada
Northern Oil and Gas[2], United States
Oil and Gas Development Company Limited[3], Pakistan
Occidental Petroleum, United States
Oil India Limited, India
Oman Oil Company (OOC), Oman
OMV, Austria
ONGC, India
PKN Orlen S.A., Poland
PSO, Pakistan
Petróleos de Venezuela, Venezuela
Petroleos Mexicanos, Mexico
PetroAlam, Egypt
Petroleum Development Oman,(PDO)
Perenco, France, United Kingdom
Petro-Canada, Canada
Petrobras, Brazil
PetroChina, China
PetroKazakhstan, Kazakhstan
Petrom, Romania
Petron Corporation, Philippines
PETRONAS, Malaysia
PETROTRIN, Trinidad and Tobago
PetroVietnam, Vietnam
Pertamina, Indonesia
Polish Oil and Gas Company, Poland
Plains Exploration & Production Company (PXP), United States
PTT Public Company Limited, Thailand
Qatar Petroleum, Qatar
Questar, United States
Reliance Industries Limited, India
Repsol YPF, Spain
Revus, Norway
Rompetrol Group N.V., Romania
Royal Dutch Shell, Netherlands
Sagiz Petroleum, Kazakhstan
San-Ai Oil, Japan
Santos Limited, Australia
Sasol, South Africa
Saudi Aramco, Saudi Arabia (the largest in the world)
Shell Canada, Canada (subsidiary of Royal Dutch Shell)
Shell Oil Company, United States (subsidiary of Royal Dutch Shell)
Sinclair Oil, United States
Sinopec, China
Snpc, Congo-Brazzaville
Sonangol, Angola
Sonatrach, Algeria
Singapore Petroleum Company, Singapore
StatoilHydro, Norway
State Oil Company of Azerbaijan, SOCAR Azerbaijan
Somerset Refinery, United States
St. Mary Land & Exploration, United States
State Oil Company of Suriname, Suriname
Suncor Energy, Canada
Surgutneftegaz, Russia
Syncrude, Canada
Talisman Energy, Canada
Tesoro, United States
THUMS, United States
Todd Energy, New Zealand
Total, France
Tullow Oil, United Kingdom
United Refining Company, United States
Vaalco Energy Inc., United States
Valero Energy Corporation, United States
Vegas Oil and Gas (Kriti), Egypt
Venoco Inc., United States
Wintershall, Germany
Woodside Petroleum, Australia
XTO Energy, United States
YPF, Argentina
YPFB, Bolivia

[Hoist!]

Oil exporting countries are in a unique position to benefit from world demand for petroleum products. On the following list, only Russia, Norway and Mexico are not members of OPEC and therefore have limited say in setting oil prices.

Top Ten Oil Exporting Countries
•Saudi Arabia (8.73 million barrels per day)
•Russia (6.67)
•Norway (2.91)
•Iran (2.55)
•Venezuela (2.36)
•United Arab Emirates (2.33)
•Kuwait (2.20)
•Nigeria (2.19)
•Mexico (1.80)
•Algeria (1.68)

[Twolanerider]

Alphabetical list of companies
This is a selected list of petroleum companies in alphabetical order.

What about them though ?