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Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« on: November 20, 2019, 09:08:40 PM »

Getting close to 20k miles on my fltruse and time to replace stock lifters. Got 14 months left on the extended warranty.

Thinking of going with stock lifters.

Anything else needs replaced while in there?

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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2019, 09:55:58 PM »

Lifters are an easy job with adjustable pushrods.  No need to open camchest or rocker covers.

If opening the camchest then it's a good idea to upgrade the inner cam bearings.

If opening the rocker covers the rocker locking kits can help reduce top end noise if that is an issue.

Personally I'd probably just do the lifters with adjustables.
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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2019, 10:35:39 AM »

Lifters are an easy job with adjustable pushrods.  No need to open camchest or rocker covers.

If opening the camchest then it's a good idea to upgrade the inner cam bearings.

If opening the rocker covers the rocker locking kits can help reduce top end noise if that is an issue.

Personally I'd probably just do the lifters with adjustables.

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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2019, 03:44:19 PM »

I'm going to go out o a limb and say at 20,000 K miles and still under warranty I think you can wait a while to do lifters.

But I understand your concern.

I have 30K miles on my 2014 Limited 103 and am gathering all that I need to do lifters, and since I'm there, cams.  But like you, I still have about 4 months of ESP so I'm not really in a hurry.

By the way, under the ESP, I've had two water pumps, one throttle grip, one compensator, and one front brake perch assy (brake light inop).
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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2019, 04:10:32 PM »

I'm going to go out o a limb and say at 20,000 K miles and still under warranty I think you can wait a while to do lifters.

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The fact the bike is covered by an ESP wouldn't make me feel even remotely warm and fuzzy when you consider how much damage a lifter failure creates, and how poorly many places "repair" the failed engines.  Not to mention how the ESP folks have been very aggressive in finding ways to void coverage after being shafted by Harley over this widespread problem Harley dumped in their lap.  A set of lifters is cheap insurance, then when the ESP runs out work on fixing the real cause of the failures.

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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2019, 06:51:08 PM »

At 20,000 miles on my '13 I installed S&S lifters, Rocker lockers and the 2 oil/air filters under the rocker boxes while in there. Didn't take long. Great investment.
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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2019, 07:12:54 PM »

It's a damn shame that at 20K a guy should even need to think about lifters.
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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2019, 12:58:36 PM »

lifters are cheaper, faster, easier, than the rear cam bearings and shoes on my 2000

still, all these years later, i should have kept the 2000, put gear drive cams & big bore in it.   whack myself about that regularly.   im *almost* to where id trade my 07 even up for a 2000 carb bike with the same gearing my 2007 now has.... *sigh*
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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2019, 03:06:05 AM »

It's a damn shame that at 20K a guy should even need to think about lifters.

True, but remember what company we're talking about ... HD, lol. I would be leery of monkeying with anything yourself if it's still under any kind of warranty .... unless the work is done by a certified parts changer at the dealer. No need for adjustable pushrods either if you were to install rocker lockers .... just another thing that could loosen down the road if they're not tightened properly. They do make life  a lot easier/faster if you aren't pulling the rocker boxes off however.
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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2019, 12:58:49 PM »

Thanka all!

Anyone know the labor hours to replace lifters using adj push rods vs stock pr labor?

Understand you just cut the existing and dont need to remove tha tank.

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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2019, 07:54:40 PM »

I did mine in a day with stock pushrods. The rear cover is tricky o get off.  I also installed new breathers.  They are smaller and easier to netball.  The original breathers were in sad shape the umbreallas were stiff and the little pads disintegrated. Glad I took that route
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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2020, 01:01:01 PM »

 a quick couple questions while on this subject before I place a order. 08 SERK with 30K miles. I am ordering S&S premium lifter without limiters. Will the Screaming Eagle adjustable taper pushrods play well with the S&S lifters? They only look to come with lower covers so will the original small tubes be reused?
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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2020, 02:49:22 PM »

Yes lifters and pushrods are compatible.  You should have everything except lifter block base gaskets.  You will need to remove the lifter blocks (base for the pushrod tubes) to remove the lifters out the top of the camchest.
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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2020, 03:34:07 PM »

Thank you.
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Re: Stock lifter replacement, anything else done while in there?
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2020, 08:12:51 AM »

Do not use SE lifters. 
I use Feuling but stock would be better than SE.
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