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98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« on: January 13, 2009, 11:07:11 PM »

Coming soon to a dealer near you! Remember you saw it here first! (Thanks Chipster  :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:)
Unfortunately this is not available YET.

List price is only $200

Compliments of Adventure Harley-Davidson :


Listen to music or talk on a cellular phone hands-free while wearing a helmet. This Bluetooth Helmet works with all helmet styles: 3/4, Modular, or Full Face. Compatible with most Bluetooth devices such as MP3 players and cellular phones. Also compatible with the Harley-Davidson® Road Tech™ Zumo® GPS Navigation System. Includes: one Bluetooth 2.0 module, one clip-on attachment bracket, two sets of earphones for use with different helmet styles, two microphones for use with different helmet styles, one DC charger, and one instruction booklet. Features auto-answer and touch-to-answer capabilities. Standard use time is approximately 120 hours on talk stand-by and 13 hours in talk/play mode. Water-resistant. 1 year limited warranty.
STAY IN TOUCH
With the Road Tech™ Bluetooth® Headset System, riders can safely and conviently use Bluetooth enabled cellular phones and MP3 players hands-free while riding. Its small size, easy installation, and rechargeable battery makes it an ideal item for both short everyday rides and longer touring journeys. Fitting any helmet style - half, 3/4, modular, or full-face-this system offers superior audio quality even at high speeds. Receive and initiate calls. Listen to MP3 player music. Work with Road Tech™ Zumo® GPS Navigation System. Easy self-installation.
Half Helmet Installation Quick Reference:

    * Install Communication Pouches (sold separately, 98252-07V)
    * Install Clip-on Attachment Bracket
    * Clip Bluetooth Module onto the bracket
    * Slide earphones into each communication pouch (left and right)
    * Optional: Can tuck cords into liner to keep them from hanging down.
    * Attach mic to outside of the communication pouch.
    * Double check that mic and earphones are plugged into Bluetooth Module.


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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2009, 11:24:38 PM »

Sweet, hope the mic is as good as my current factory mic on the SEUC, no one even knows I'm on the bike. :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2009, 11:58:08 PM »

98271-09VM

This item is also going to be available:

Bluetooth® 2.0 Adaptor by Road Tech™
Description:


This Bluetooth® 2.0 Adaptor converts any non-Bluetooth enabled MP3 player or cellular phone into a Bluetooth compatible device for use with Road Tech™ Bluetooth Helmet System. Built on a stereo platform, the adaptor streams music in stereo or mono. Includes one Bluetooth 2.0 adaptor, one push-to-talk (PTT) button, one USB charger, one audio cable, one cellular cable and one RX/TX cable. Standard use time is approximately 176 hours on stand-by and 7.5 hours in talk/play mode. 1 year limited warranty.

cost: $100

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2009, 12:40:19 AM »

So they're introducing hardware to add Bluetooth connectivity to all third party helmets and players but doing so without also introducing anything that plugs in to the bike's system for all you Ultra riders or that replaces potentiall failed and still in warranty prior modules that are on the street?   Sweet.
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2009, 03:31:18 AM »

Very good news !  :huepfenjump3:

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2009, 04:26:07 AM »

Great info,thanks for posting.
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2009, 05:16:12 AM »

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List price is only $200
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Listen to music or talk on a cellular phone hands-free while wearing a helmet.
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I don't get it. What I understand most people want is to connect the built-in Harley system via Bluetooth to their helmets instead of using the cables provided. For CB, XM, Navigation. And add a separate Mobile Phone and rider to passenger communications. This device seems to be simply a helmet bluetooth device (many others on the market, notably Scala). The missing link was that the built-in Harley system does not have is the actual Bluetooth functionality. Or am I lost here?

Ride safely,
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2009, 10:56:38 AM »

I don't get it. What I understand most people want is to connect the built-in Harley system via Bluetooth to their helmets instead of using the cables provided. For CB, XM, Navigation. And add a separate Mobile Phone and rider to passenger communications. This device seems to be simply a helmet bluetooth device (many others on the market, notably Scala). The missing link was that the built-in Harley system does not have is the actual Bluetooth functionality. Or am I lost here?

I agree that this does not accomplish what most want: the ability to tap into the MoCo built in sound system, i.e., intercom, CB, XM, FM radio, etc. In fact, if you use this new bluetooth system, you lose the built in sound system completely and all you get is access to the Zumo/Road Tech and cell phone.
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2009, 11:12:31 AM »

I don't get it. What I understand most people want is to connect the built-in Harley system via Bluetooth to their helmets instead of using the cables provided. For CB, XM, Navigation. And add a separate Mobile Phone and rider to passenger communications. This device seems to be simply a helmet bluetooth device (many others on the market, notably Scala). The missing link was that the built-in Harley system does not have is the actual Bluetooth functionality. Or am I lost here?

Ride safely,
Louis

As rheiner said, I agree with Louis on this. It seems that this unit will not provide the functionality of the HK radio. This appears to be an add on unit and not integration.

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2009, 05:44:19 PM »

This new item will not do what most of us want.  Here is what I am attempting.

In about 30 days I should have another option in my hands and ready to install on my 07 Ultra.  Cost will be a lot cheaper than anything else out there.  The guy thought $67 was going to be to much so another guy & I offered him $75 a piece to go ahead and make us each one and he is, but it is going to take 3-4 weeks to get the parts and build for us.  Do a google search for  "my name is buddy rich bluetooth"  Make sure to use the " ".  It should be the 2nd hit and will be a post dated Dec 22 2008 on another forum.

This cable assembly will integrate the Zumo 550 into the HD System

Once I get mine and get it installed I will let you all know
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2009, 06:16:40 PM »

Think I'll stick with the Nolan bluetooth.  We like being able to talk bike to bike as we ride.
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2009, 02:27:43 AM »

Coming soon to a dealer near you! Remember you saw it here first! (Thanks Chipster  :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:)
Unfortunately this is not available YET.

List price is only $200

Compliments of Adventure Harley-Davidson :


Listen to music or talk on a cellular phone hands-free while wearing a helmet. This Bluetooth Helmet works with all helmet styles: 3/4, Modular, or Full Face. Compatible with most Bluetooth devices such as MP3 players and cellular phones. Also compatible with the Harley-Davidson® Road Tech™ Zumo® GPS Navigation System. Includes: one Bluetooth 2.0 module, one clip-on attachment bracket, two sets of earphones for use with different helmet styles, two microphones for use with different helmet styles, one DC charger, and one instruction booklet. Features auto-answer and touch-to-answer capabilities. Standard use time is approximately 120 hours on talk stand-by and 13 hours in talk/play mode. Water-resistant. 1 year limited warranty.
STAY IN TOUCH
With the Road Tech™ Bluetooth® Headset System, riders can safely and conviently use Bluetooth enabled cellular phones and MP3 players hands-free while riding. Its small size, easy installation, and rechargeable battery makes it an ideal item for both short everyday rides and longer touring journeys. Fitting any helmet style - half, 3/4, modular, or full-face-this system offers superior audio quality even at high speeds. Receive and initiate calls. Listen to MP3 player music. Work with Road Tech™ Zumo® GPS Navigation System. Easy self-installation.
Half Helmet Installation Quick Reference:

    * Install Communication Pouches (sold separately, 98252-07V)
    * Install Clip-on Attachment Bracket
    * Clip Bluetooth Module onto the bracket
    * Slide earphones into each communication pouch (left and right)
    * Optional: Can tuck cords into liner to keep them from hanging down.
    * Attach mic to outside of the communication pouch.
    * Double check that mic and earphones are plugged into Bluetooth Module.




This sounds similar to the J&M Bluetooth product. Did you win the Ebay bid for the HD BT Module?? My dealer promised me he would pull module off the next trade in he gets with one in installed.
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2009, 06:52:34 AM »

Not what I would call an integrated solution.  So if you use the HD CB/Intercom and this new fangled BlueTooth, you'll have 2 mic's hanging from your helmet, brilliant.....
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module I tested it!
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2009, 04:43:29 PM »

Ok - I received my Road Tech Bluetooth Helmet Headset and also the adapter about 10 days ago, and had time to test it thoroughly.
What I wanted to achieve:
1) Connect iPhone to Zumo 550 via Bluetooth
2) Connect Helmet headset to Zumo (as Headset) via Bluetooth
3) Use the Bluetooth adapter on the audio out on the Zumo for STEREO music playback
4) I do not need intercom function - the headset also does not provide this.

I installed it in an Arai Profile helmet - was dead easy!!!
I initially hard a hard time to get everything paired, but found a sequence that worked:

1) Pair Zumo 550 and iPhone
2) Pair Zumo 550 to Helmet headset as per Headset instructions
3) Pair Bluetooth Adapter to Helmet headset without powering it off

When you switch on do it in sequence again:
1) Switch iPhone on
2) Switch Zumo 550 on IMPORTANT - wait until it has succesfully connected to the iphone.
3) Switch Headset on IMPORTANT - wait until the Zumo reports that it the connection is succesful
4) Switch the Bluetooth adapter on

What I have - I can play stereo music from the Zumo 550 (via the bluetooth adapter) at very good quality - Good volume control and enough level to listen to at 100mph. The sound quality when going through the Stereo Bluetooth adapter is MUCH better than using the built (mono - low quality) in bluetooth in the Zumo to stream audio.
When the phone rings, the music mutes and I can have a clear conversation NOT AT 100MPH!!!!!
I use the Zumo's controls to dial out, as I have no intention to try and initiate calls while on the move, as a matter of fact, I normally slow down or stop if I can when taking a call - its just nice to not have to take your gloves & helmet off when you have to take a call - It will give me many more "stolen" hours on the bike.

I am very happy with the system - the sound quality is not as good as on my old hardwired BAEHR Verso XL, but it is more than adequate and the compromise is worth it for not having to tangle with wires.

Hope this provides some clarity to potential buyers.

Kind regards

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2009, 06:06:36 PM »

Thanks for this report !
Very interesting.

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2009, 12:45:28 PM »

The Road Tech BT 2.0 Helmet system is made by MOTOSONIC http://www.motosonicusa.com/#/products/
and you've the link to the Road Tech : http://www.motosonicusa.com/RoadTech/#/products/600bh/menu/

Motosonic had two products (and the dogle) :
the 700BH
and the BTS-100.

New MotoSonic 700BH Bluetooth enabled communicator from KBC helmets is different and opens up a whole new world for riders on the move.

No more flimsy wires to get tangled, no power leads to worry about, just ‘press and connect’ to any other Bluetooth enabled device, be it the passenger’s MotoSonic unit, mobile ‘phone, an MP3 player, GPS, PDA whatever – if it’s Bluetooth, you can be connected!

Even more impressive is that unlike many less sophisticated units, the MotoSonic 700BH is twin channel, allowing simultaneous intercom use while still connected to the other devices.

Weighing only 38gms and measuring just 70mm x 42mm x 20mm, the aerodynamic, water and impact-resistant MotoSonic 700BH, simply clips to the lower edge of any motorcycle helmet and, using the Velcro pads supplied, the superb wafer-thin, state-of-the art stereo sub-woofer speakers and noise cancelling microphone are also easily installed, all without affecting the helmet’s integrity.

The rider can now use the intercom, listen to music, or, using the automatic voice activated facility, make or answer calls without lifting a finger! Such is the superb audio quality, music can be listened to or conversations carried out at all legal speeds.

Motosonic 700BH Features:

- Voice Command
- Noise Cancelling Microphone
- Subwoofer Stereo Speakers
- Automatic Answer & Redial
- Reject Calls
- Play & Stop Music
- Automatic Connection To Intercom Mode
- Adjustable Volume

- Universal Fitment

- Fits Both Open & Full Face Helmets

- Water & Impact Resistant
- 120 hours Standby
- 13 Hours Talk Time
- 3 Hour Recharge

- 10 metre range

- Weighs only 38gms

- Discrete size, measures only 70mm x 42mm x 20mm

Bluetooth V2.0 Wireless Connection to:
MP3 player
Mobile phone
AM/FM radio
Radar detector
PDA
GPS
Two Way radio
Rider to rider
Rider to passenger

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2009, 03:22:44 PM »

The last model from Motosonic is the MotoSonic 800BH, Bluetooth/Intercom Stereo 400m range
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2009, 03:38:42 PM »

The Road Tech BT 2.0 Helmet system allows not to link two pair for intercom mode.
The only way you can communicate between rider to passenger is by calling on cell phone.
Motosonic 700BH has intercom capability and also BTS-100.
The BTS-100 is a Hybrid model with intercom capability of quarter mile range.

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2009, 03:23:27 AM »

Another similar product :
http://www.midlandradio.com/comersus/store/comersus_listCategoriesAndProducts.asp?idCategory=142

NEW MIDLAND BT2 INTERCOM
Multimedia wireless system.
The first truly communication and entertainment system designed for bikers.
It is Now rated the Best BlueTooth in Europe and UK

The Midland BT2 Intercom can be connected via its Bluetooth mode to a mobile phone, GPS, MP3 stereo music player, plus it’s fitted with a plug that enables it to be wired to an iPod/MP3 player or to PMR446 transceivers for bike to bike group communication.

The Midland BT2 Intercom can be used as Rider to Pillion wireless intercom system or as a Rider to Rider (bike to bike) communication system up to a maximum range of 200 meters. The audio system, with two stereo speakers, can be connected to microphones to suit both open and closed faced helmets, with both solutions supplied as standard. If used in combination with a mobile phone that incorporates an MP3 player feature, FORWARD/REPLAY and PLAY/STOP controls can be directly managed from the Midland BT2 headset. Thanks to its large control buttons, drivers can easily and safely select the main mobile features even whilst wearing thick winter gloves. The Midland BT2 Intercom is completely waterproof and therefore suitable to be used in all weather conditions.

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS

General
Bluetooth version 2.0 stereo (Headset/Hands-free/A2DP protocol)
VOX for hands free activation of the Intercom and phone call answer
AGC technology to automatically adjust volume when noise and speed change
The driver can receive private calls or share them with the passenger
Control buttons: Intercom, Phone , AUX (wired device)
Up to 8 hours of conversation and 1 week in standby
Recharging time: about 4 hours
Bluetooth

Bluetooth connections to: mobile phone, GPS system and MP3 stereo player Intercom To the same device as Rider to Pillion intercom or as Rider to Rider communication over maximum distances of 200 meters
Wired connection
Wired connection for stereo music player (iPod/MP3 player) or 2 way radio
Audio Stereo
Two speakers for true stereo music MP3 Player

Direct control of commands
Volume Control
3 Seperate volume levels for cell phone, intercom, MP3 player.
Waterproof
Against all weather’s conditions

Large buttons
to manage all the functionalities in a safe and easy way

Installation
Two way of fixing to the helmet: with a screw clamp or with bi-adhesive
Microphone
Two solutions: wired for close helmet and flexible arm for open helmet

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2009, 08:18:12 AM »

To all:

One of our lead riders in our chapter (aptly named Gizmoh) found what I think is the perfect solution for those of us that use the Zumo 550 ( I think the new Zumo 660 will also work) and would still like to use the CB and intercom.

Cycle Gadgets ( http://www.cyclegadgets.com/Products/packages.asp?pkg=ULT-550 ) sells the Cell Set solution.  It does require removing the fairing and some modifications to the wiring harness (no splicing but need a heat gun) to use the Zumo functionality (GPS, XM, bluetooth to phone, and i f needed MP3 player) with full capability of the HD CB, radio, Xm, intercom etc.

Installation takes about two hours for the first time (and a little knowledge of electrical schematics is helpfull but not required).

The Cell Set does everything  I wanted.  It allows full use of the HD stuff and interrupts(mutes) the HD radio's for five seconds while it provides GPS info via the intercom setup.  With this in place the HD works as normal and anything from the Garmin ie GPS, XM(if used), MP3 (if used) and finally the bluetooth connection to your phone now works via the Garmin via the HD intercom setup.

The bluetooth works so well most people have no idea you are riding a bike (unless your moving along at 85).  Phone book comes up from your phone, home phone, recents etc.  Thought I would never use it until my Granddaughter called me on a ride and I talked to her for fifteen minutes.  Very cool.

Perfect integration.  Have found no flaws.  If you need to talk for more than five seconds, you have to turn down the HD system.
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2009, 10:35:13 AM »

Surely a good way for an integration of the ZUMO in the HK system.

The last step is to cut the wire between the bike and the headset with a blutooth system and to be able to use all intregrated functions of the HK / ZUMO in the headset ......
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2009, 11:46:32 AM »

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That would be even better.  No cord would be great.  Don't suspect that will happen any time soon.

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2009, 09:24:49 PM »

I've actually seen this Kennedy system before. Never knew anyone who used it. Glad to hear it works (no pun intended).

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2009, 10:11:29 PM »

 ;D

We now have six club members that use the system.  On our last road trip to Arizona one of the groups turned the wrong way and CB's were useless.  The other lead called me on my cell set.  Very cool.  Wouldn't want to use it on a regular basis.

The best part is you get full functionality of the entire HD system and all the features of the Zumo.

If you have a Zumo 550 the $320 plus a few hours was one of my best investments for pure functionality.

We have three other rider's whom have ordered.  It actually makes the Garmin fully functional without losing then HD stuff.  My wife even liked hearing where we were going.  Maybe that's a negative.

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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module--A2P Compatible question
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2012, 06:39:56 PM »

Does anybody know if this device is A2DP compatible? I can BT between my helmet, iPhone and Zumo, (one device, iPhone to Zumo and Zumo to Helmet) not a problem! I have a Schuberth SRC system that also allows another 'device' ie a Valentine One with the audio out adapter. BUT the SRC system requires the device to be A2DP and everything I have read doesn't say it is? Maybe I'm missing something!
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2012, 06:53:22 PM »

How is this any different than a bluetooth dongle you can plug into your non-bluetooth MP3 player and add bluetooth to it?  Seems to me this is just a repackaging of things already available and no new functionality.
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2012, 06:56:09 PM »

Thread is a few years old.  The device was released then discontinued by Harley.
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Re: 98272-09VM Harley's NEW Bluetooth Module
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2012, 07:01:33 PM »

It maybe exactly what I'm looking for! All I need is for this device to be A2DP and I'm in! iPhone to Zumo, Zumo to Helmet, and V1 to Helmet.
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