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brewco12

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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2016, 09:16:56 PM »

70 to 80 miles an hour.I have had 4 Road king police bikes the last one was a 2014.The 2013 CVO was more unstable than any of the cop bikes.When I took the lowers off it rode better.

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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2016, 09:31:10 PM »

70 to 80 miles an hour.I have had 4 Road king police bikes the last one was a 2014.The 2013 CVO was more unstable than any of the cop bikes.When I took the lowers off it rode better.

I have found zero issue with Stability on my 13 CVO King.  I have run from TN to Milwaukee cruise set at 78 mph the vast majority of the time.  Most the time one or the other hand on the bars.  I have also gone over 10 miles with no hands on the bars at those speeds.  Every bit as stable as my 09 CVO Road Glide was, my 12 CVO road glide was or my 15 CVO road glide ultra is.

If there was any indication my 13 CVO King was unstable it would have been traded rather than building the motor for more power.  Ive had it over 100 more than one no issues.
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2016, 09:34:57 PM »

Yea,I got rid of mine,it had a beautiful paint job though.
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2016, 10:21:45 PM »

A little late to the game, but this summarizes the differences fairly well:  http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/motorcycles/2014models/2014-Harley-Davidson-FLHRSE5-CVO-RoadKing.htm

I have a 2013 FLHRSE5.  I bought it with 5,000 miles on it when it was 1 year old.  I have owned it for almost 2 years and put another 5,500 miles on it.  I really like the lowers and the speakers.  I like my color (Diamond Dust & Obsidian) and the chrome over the black on the 2014 models.  The newer bag design would be nice, but I wouldn't want to give up my lowers or my speakers.

I bought it as an upgrade from my 2000 FXD; I wanted cruise and music for longer rides.  I have enjoyed both.  It took me a while to get used to riding the bigger bike, but I really like it now.  The lowers and windshield allow me to ride to work in the mornings on days that I didn't enjoy riding the Dyna.

Both the 2013 and 2014 would be fun bikes.  What paint scheme do you like better?  Do both bike have similar maintenance / ownership histories?
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2016, 09:43:27 AM »

I like both paint schemes. The lowers and the stereo vs. the bigger forks, the day maker lights, and saddle bag latches. For the price difference I'd say I'm going with the '13. I've got four Harley dealers trying to sell me something new. It can be a confusing choice.
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2016, 12:36:12 PM »

As far as brakes go. The 2013 ABS brakes are junk. Most people might not know that since most don't practice panic stops and collision avoidance from high speed.

I can stop shorter with conventional brakes (No ABS) than I can using full ABS on a 2013 bike.

The 2014 (Rushmore) ABS brakes are very good and you hardly feel that the system is working at all.

Try riding both. Measure stoping distance with full brake efforts from 45 mph and decide for yourself. Could be the difference you need to not slam into that truck!
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2016, 05:40:10 PM »

2014 all the way! I am a purist however I hate the stereo on the 2013, I have the 14 and love it.
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2016, 09:00:17 PM »

As far as brakes go. The 2013 ABS brakes are junk. Most people might not know that since most don't practice panic stops and collision avoidance from high speed.

I can stop shorter with conventional brakes (No ABS) than I can using full ABS on a 2013 bike.

The 2014 (Rushmore) ABS brakes are very good and you hardly feel that the system is working at all.

Try riding both. Measure stoping distance with full brake efforts from 45 mph and decide for yourself. Could be the difference you need to not slam into that truck!

I totally disagree with you a second time in this thread on the Brakes.  The brakes on my 13 CVO King are great.  I would be only a professional could out brake it on the same bike with out ABS.  I have had an 09 CVO RG put over 45K on it before I traded it on a 12 CVO RK which I also put over 45K on before it was traded and my 13 CVO King which has 18K on it.  All these bikes have the same brembo ABS non linked brake system which works very well.

Sounds like there was something wrong with the brakes on the 13 ABS bike you rode.  They are far from Junk.

I also have a 15 CVO RG ultra with the linked ABS Brembo brakes.  It stops the same as my 13 CVO king, and the same as my last two CVO road glides.  I have over 35K miles n the 15.  The only difference in the brakes are is they are linked.  Meaning grab the front and it applies the rear also.  Grab the rear and it also applies the front.  I actually prefer to be able to choose if I want front, rear or both.
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2016, 07:49:48 AM »

I went from an 2006 street glide...I miss the stereo the most I had lowers on it also.my 14 RK  handles much better exspecially when pushing it alittle in corners the daymakers head light is worth the $550 all day the new saddle bag latches are much better...the no nose dive when braking is sweet.as I don't use my foot brake 99% of the time.i will be putting tunes on my 14 if I don't up grade to the 2017 cvo ultra when they come out.

My bose sport headphones work just fine I can still hear them when hitting triple digits.
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2016, 09:02:54 AM »

I've got a '13 and love the "tunes". Really weird cause I NEVER turn on music when in my truck or the wife's car. Must be a scooter thing.
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2016, 12:33:03 PM »

I have a Blue 2013. I think the main differences are the lowers and speakers on the 13. Mine also came with a passenger backrest. The 14 has slightly larger front fork tubes, linked ABS, painted headlight nacelle with Daymaker headlight, and the new bags. I wish mine had the new saddlebag lids, but other than that I'm completely happy with my 2013. I can't park the thing anywhere without someone commenting on how much they love the paint. Hope this helps.
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2016, 05:11:02 PM »

Yeah but no. I have riden lots of them in the Police Motor officer training program and done tests on this.

How many brake comparisons did you do going from 45-55 mph braking 100%?

EVERY rider should be a professional. I am a Commercial pilot and hold myself to the same standards. How many flights am I okay to crash not being a professional? I a rider can't out brake  the pre 2013 brakes a rider is really really a poor rider.

By the way, the linked part is not good. A competent rider don't want that. It's good they delink at lower speed.

Why do you believe your ABS brakes are good?

I totally disagree with you a second time in this thread on the Brakes.  The brakes on my 13 CVO King are great.  I would be only a professional could out brake it on the same bike with out ABS.  I have had an 09 CVO RG put over 45K on it before I traded it on a 12 CVO RK which I also put over 45K on before it was traded and my 13 CVO King which has 18K on it.  All these bikes have the same brembo ABS non linked brake system which works very well.

Sounds like there was something wrong with the brakes on the 13 ABS bike you rode.  They are far from Junk.

I also have a 15 CVO RG ultra with the linked ABS Brembo brakes.  It stops the same as my 13 CVO king, and the same as my last two CVO road glides.  I have over 35K miles n the 15.  The only difference in the brakes are is they are linked.  Meaning grab the front and it applies the rear also.  Grab the rear and it also applies the front.  I actually prefer to be able to choose if I want front, rear or both.
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2016, 05:16:05 PM »

Yeah but no. I have riden lots of them in the Police Motor officer training program and done tests on this.

How many brake comparisons did you do going from 45-55 mph braking 100%?

EVERY rider should be a professional. I am a Commercial pilot and hold myself to the same standards. How many flights am I okay to crash not being a professional? a rider that can't out brake  the pre 2013 brakes is really really a poor rider.

By the way, the linked part is not good. A competent rider don't want that. It's good they delink at lower speed.

Why do you believe your ABS brakes are good?  What limits do your set for yourself?  Time and distance would be a good comparison. Looking forward to your details m

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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2016, 05:22:59 PM »

Yeah no 2. These are two very different ABS modules and if you don't know the difference it's because you have not took them to the limit. If you did with proper training you would know there is no comparison.  I believe that your opinion is subjective and not based on real testing. Please let me know if I am wrong since my data is based on Real life measured data. Love to see your comparison data.

I totally disagree with you a second time in this thread on the Brakes.  The brakes on my 13 CVO King are great.  I would be only a professional could out brake it on the same bike with out ABS.  I have had an 09 CVO RG put over 45K on it before I traded it on a 12 CVO RK which I also put over 45K on before it was traded and my 13 CVO King which has 18K on it.  All these bikes have the same brembo ABS non linked brake system which works very well.

Sounds like there was something wrong with the brakes on the 13 ABS bike you rode.  They are far from Junk.

I also have a 15 CVO RG ultra with the linked ABS Brembo brakes.  It stops the same as my 13 CVO king, and the same as my last two CVO road glides.  I have over 35K miles n the 15.  The only difference in the brakes are is they are linked.  Meaning grab the front and it applies the rear also.  Grab the rear and it also applies the front.  I actually prefer to be able to choose if I want front, rear or both.
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Re: 13 vs 14
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2016, 06:40:42 PM »

I call Na Na on the ABS difference. NO difference in my 09 and 15 and I have demo'd every year, before and after ABS, at Daytona. NO difference in my opinion. All the ABS works great, Had one for real panic on the 09 and a couple on the new bike. ABS is a good thing.
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