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Title: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on February 24, 2006, 05:33:40 PM
I've got another brother that is looking for input for his exhaust change for a bone stock 88" 04 Heritage Softail
What's do you have and how does it sound??
All posts are greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
MYCVO
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Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Steve_G on February 24, 2006, 06:12:10 PM
My softail motor is not stock, but I went the the White Bros. E series 2 into 1 and I really like it.  You can adjust the number of discs for sound and performance, so incase your buddy changes something with the motor down the line, the pipe can be adjusted for it.-Steve [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: GC_Super on February 24, 2006, 07:11:49 PM
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My softail motor is not stock, but I went the the White Bros. E series 2 into 1 and I really like it.
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Fatboy on February 24, 2006, 07:37:02 PM
I'd check into the new Rinehart 2 into1.  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

You won't be sorry.  [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on February 24, 2006, 09:10:03 PM
I think Craig is more leaning to staggered than a 2-1 system exhaust, He seems to be leaning towards the Rinehart's with the 2 1/2" heat shields or the Chambermaids.
 
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: SPIDERMAN on February 24, 2006, 09:25:27 PM
At the risk of being considered a wise ass, once you change the exhaust you'll need to modify the intake and re-chip the ECM. At that point your engine is no longer    "STOCK"  It is modified and therein lies the method to my madness. The MoCo downloads are all calibrated on using Screamin Eagle exhaust and breather. Soooooooooo if you use some other exhaust or breather or combination thereof, you need to go to a SERT or a PC to reprogram your ECM so the answer to your question then becomes more complicated in that the power curve you program into the PC is a derivative of what your intake and exahust are doing and as far as I know you cannot program a SERT without running the bike on a dyno. Confused ?  So are most people which is why you are likely to get 50 different recommendations to answer your original question. I'm not going to suggest anything as what I've found is that a lot of people pick an exhaust they like the sound and looks of and then go about justifying it to their friends as the best you can get. That may sound cynical, but IMHO it's the truth.

Big B
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on February 24, 2006, 10:31:17 PM
Spiderman,
He's got a carb 88 not an injected model. He one of those riders that "bar hops" and not a rider that we think of as a rider. No long days in the saddle, so torque and power aren't as large a factor as sound is.
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Unbalanced on February 24, 2006, 10:34:14 PM
If he wants teh rineharts he will have to order them special witht he 2 1/2" baffles .. they come stock now with the 2 1/4"

In regards to the White Brothers E - pipe its not longer made or sold unless you can find one someone still has in a warehouse.   Seems a small court battle fixed that.   I dunno someone else claimed they had the disc technology and won.

As far as an alternative to the Rineharts to give him choices ... he can also check out the Bassani with the longer baffle.  

-harry
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on February 24, 2006, 11:00:23 PM
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If he wants teh rineharts he will have to order them special witht he 2 1/2" baffles .. they come stock now with the 2 1/4"

In regards to the White Brothers E - pipe its not longer made or sold unless you can find one someone still has in a warehouse.
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: hd-dude on February 24, 2006, 11:51:49 PM
Freedom Cycles has thier "power package" for softails as well. I put setup on a stock 88" Softail and it ran really well. The one I did was injected but i'm sure they could set you up anyway.
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on February 25, 2006, 01:18:56 AM
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Freedom Cycles has thier "power package" for softails as well. I put setup on a stock 88" Softail and it ran really well. The one I did was injected but i'm sure they could set you up anyway.
Jim,
That's a damn good thought, I'll toss that by him in the AM. See what he maybe wanting or willing to do. Mostly sounded to me that he wanted to off his stock fishtails and crossover, but you never know. We'll see.
Mark [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Wckd One on February 25, 2006, 01:58:17 AM
My 03 Night Train is carbed. I went with Hooker headers. They look like drag pipes but are step tuned and ceramic coated on the inside so you keep the torque and gain horse power. He will need to re-jet the carb, but then again he will have to do that with any freer flowing pipes so the bike wont run to lean.
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on February 25, 2006, 07:36:39 AM
WckedOne,
Welcome to the site, I've got several buddies with the Hookers. Loud, is the first thing that comes to mind. I like them myself, clean lines, nice bark. Right to re-jetting on any freer flowing system, which will be done. The Hookers are a bit to loud for his taste.
Dude good looking Train,
MYCVO [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: 2006_RoadGlide on February 25, 2006, 08:48:20 AM
I had a 2000 NIght Train. I put V&H Long Shots on it. Rejetted of course. The Long Shots put the end of the exhaust further away from my ears and it had a great sound and improved performance. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on February 25, 2006, 09:11:23 AM
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I had a 2000 NIght Train. I put V&H Long Shots on it. Rejetted of course. The Long Shots put the end of the exhaust further away from my ears and it had a great sound and improved performance. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
RoadGlide,
 Do you any of that metallic chatter from your longshots? My bothers Heritage and some others all seem to have it, but they all are the staggered style. Real nice sound, plenty of power threw the bands. Craig did have the longs for a choice.
MYCVO
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Grover on February 25, 2006, 09:55:58 AM
MYCVO-

  I'd also check out the Bassanis for something different. Nice set of pipes, sound good too.

Have a good one,

Grover
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on February 26, 2006, 06:09:01 PM
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MYCVO-

 
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: electraglidese on March 06, 2006, 11:49:34 PM
Take a look at the cycle shack slip ons a little louder then the screamin eagle slip ons. They sound like the older screamin eagle slip ons.
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Grover on March 07, 2006, 06:54:34 PM
Mark,

 
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on March 07, 2006, 07:26:51 PM
Mark,
I'm pretty sure the sound and whatever added proformance he gains from this set-up should do Craig nicely. The looks will be damn cool looking for sure [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] I don't know when he'll get them, I heard from the shop that there backordered right now by close to 2 months. I will surely post up some pics when it gets done.
I just got done putting a neck and downtube wrap on mine I'll post up that pic for you bro.
Hope all is well with you and Lynn.
Later,
Mark [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on March 07, 2006, 07:28:09 PM
Mark,
Here's the other side
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on March 07, 2006, 07:30:27 PM
One with me on my baby.
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Grover on March 07, 2006, 07:35:29 PM
The frame covers look great, I have the same on my bike
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on March 07, 2006, 07:36:24 PM
Mark,
I just got in my new GMC truck for the business, I got to get my signs put on and get it to work now. [smiley=drink.gif] [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] Long time coming for this one.
Mark
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on March 07, 2006, 07:38:29 PM
Here's one of the inside
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Grover on March 07, 2006, 07:48:39 PM
Congrats on the new money maker very nice! Good to see that you even have chrome wheels on it [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]. Damn, you could even haul a couple bikes in there. At least you can sit on your scooter...mine is still apart, should be all together in a week or so though.

Good luck with all & cheers  [smiley=2vrolijk_09.gif]

Mark
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on March 07, 2006, 08:44:22 PM
Mark,
TY, I've waited along time but decided enough was enough! My other truck is ready for a major redoe if I keep it. And I really wanted some A/C and the new luminescent roof for the daylight. It was just plain time to get updated.
 What of yours is apart? Your bike?
Here's a couple of mine during some work
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on March 07, 2006, 08:45:09 PM
another one
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on March 07, 2006, 08:45:46 PM
from the front
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on March 07, 2006, 09:02:41 PM
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The frame covers look great, I have the same on my bike
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Fired00d on March 07, 2006, 09:26:46 PM
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Mark,
I'm pretty sure the sound and whatever added proformance he gains from this set-up should do Craig nicely. The looks will be damn cool looking for sure [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] I don't know when he'll get them, I heard from the shop that there backordered right now by close to 2 months. I will surely post up some pics when it gets done.
I just got done putting a neck and downtube wrap on mine I'll post up that pic for you bro.
Hope all is well with you and Lynn.
Later,
Mark [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Mark,
No fair showing bling, bling, and not giving info on who makes them and part number. :D The downtube wraps look to me like they could be Kuryakyn parts, am I correct?

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Grover on March 07, 2006, 09:34:32 PM
Fired00d,

  You guessed it right. It's the kuryakyn neck cover w/down tube cover extensions along with the rear frame covers. Makes a big difference in appearence covering up all the ugly welds.

Go get some more bling, bling [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Grover
Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: Fired00d on March 07, 2006, 09:38:52 PM
Grover,
Thanks. I thought that was who made them, just never seen them on bike other then in catalog or on there website.

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Title: Re: Best Exhaust for stock 88" power and sound
Post by: MYCVO on March 07, 2006, 09:40:07 PM
Fire,
Ya your right, it is Kuyakyn's product part # 8146 @ 150.00 Good eye my man ;)
My bad for not being specific. ;D got to keep the appearance up on the old ride!
Later,
Mark [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]