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Title: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Jerry/MD on March 20, 2011, 07:36:17 PM
I know 2 guys who got 18k miles on their 2010 Ultra Limited rear tires. What have you gotten?
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on March 20, 2011, 07:42:25 PM
I had 20,500 on the rear tire on my 09 SERG when I replaced it.  I had less than 500 miles riding double.

I was very happy with the tread life.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Georgehjr on March 20, 2011, 07:42:56 PM
Well that's great,,,,,,,,, However I look at this a little different , I am replacing both tires on my 08SEUC at 9,000 miles because 'why take chances?'  JMHO.... :soapbox:
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: dep47 on March 21, 2011, 10:22:06 AM
Had 21000 miles on the rear of my 09 Ultra when I traded it in still not down to the wear bars, but the flat tread wear was noticeable.  Normally change at 15,000 just to be safe.  Ride double loaded all the time.  My 010 CVO SE5 has 17,000 on the rear  and will change shortly as I have some longer trips planned.  Changed the front tire on the CVO at 30,000 miles.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: TwoToes on March 21, 2011, 11:43:50 AM
Wow, you guys age getting great millage. I usually get 10,000 on the rear and 20,000 on the front and I ride solo.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: duranh on March 21, 2011, 11:52:31 AM
It depends on your riding style, if you are always in the throttle hard then 10K is about right. Same for braking, racing to the light and stopping hard tends to wear the tires faster as well. I get near 20K on my tires normally.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Hugh Janis on March 21, 2011, 12:24:05 PM
I used to downshift hard and only got 6k on the 1st rear tire. That became an expensive habit so I tried harder to use the front break more and got 9k out of the 2nd. I really babied it (I thought).
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Limited Lou on March 21, 2011, 02:03:24 PM
Wow, you guys age getting great millage. I usually get 10,000 on the rear and 20,000 on the front and I ride solo.

 There talking about the Dunlop 407 & 408 tires that the touring models came out in 2009, the tread is improved. My rear tire on my 2010 Limited was changed at  over 25,000 miles.. Front was just changed at 30,622.. Was ready for new..
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Spiderman on March 21, 2011, 02:07:43 PM
How many times have I seen threads like this ? How many times have I posted on threads like this ? Too many but still as someone who's had his share of issues with tires, I feel compelled to say again and again and again  DO NOT RISK YOUR LIFE for the sake of how many miles you clock on your tires. I could go on and on and on for a couple of pages here with stories both personal and as related to me but I think it's as plain as the nose on your face. If you are at all concerned about how many miles you can squeeze out of a tire while riding a two wheeled vehicle you should cease riding two wheeled vehicles

B B
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: hdbrad03 on March 21, 2011, 06:06:21 PM
I had over 15K miles but still had another 4-5K left based on tread measurement. Brian raised some very good points, my tire was cupped beyound where I thought the tire was safe. So I renewed it!

 :bananarock: :bananarock:

     Brad
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Limited Lou on March 21, 2011, 06:35:45 PM
How many times have I seen threads like this ? How many times have I posted on threads like this ? Too many but still as someone who's had his share of issues with tires, I feel compelled to say again and again and again  DO NOT RISK YOUR LIFE for the sake of how many miles you clock on your tires. I could go on and on and on for a couple of pages here with stories both personal and as related to me but I think it's as plain as the nose on your face. If you are at all concerned about how many miles you can squeeze out of a tire while riding a two wheeled vehicle you should cease riding two wheeled vehicles

B B

When tire is ready for replacement for me that doesn't mean it's un-safe... I care for the tires real well as it is a two wheel vehicle and care for my well being...   
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: TwoToes on March 22, 2011, 09:20:26 PM
I agree with Spiderman. Safety is the key issue. I change my tires when they are worn but before they are worn out. I could get another 1k to 2k but it is not worth the risk.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: spydglide on March 22, 2011, 10:49:51 PM
I agree with Spiderman. Safety is the key issue. I change my tires when they are worn but before they are worn out. I could get another 1k to 2k but it is not worth the risk.
It's really hard to cut it that close....I usually throw away lost more miles than that, usually due to planning to leave on a trip and not wanting to leave on a tire that can't make the most of the way.  spyder
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Dr.D on April 05, 2011, 12:35:27 PM
There talking about the Dunlop 407 & 408 tires that the touring models came out in 2009, the tread is improved. My rear tire on my 2010 Limited was changed at  over 25,000 miles.. Front was just changed at 30,622.. Was ready for new..

Holy Crap Batman! Those miles are not average. I just posted in this subsection so just getting to this thread. I get about 9K on a rear and 12K on a front on my 09 FLHRC. I ride two up about a third of the time and run mountain roads with some spirit. I change mine when they look even close to worn. I am sure I throw miles away but love the look, feel, ride and confidence of the fresh rubber.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Spiderman on April 05, 2011, 12:40:50 PM
Holy Crap Batman! Those miles are not average. I just posted in this subsection so just getting to this thread. I get about 9K on a rear and 12K on a front on my 09 FLHRC. I ride two up about a third of the time and run mountain roads with some spirit. I change mine when they look even close to worn. I am sure I throw miles away but love the look, feel, ride and confidence of the fresh rubber.

Dr.D, the difference between you apparent knowledge in this post as compared to the "subthread" you started is what has me convinced my post in your subthread is correct. Keep it up Dude, I need a good daily laugh

B B
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: DICKW on April 05, 2011, 12:55:30 PM
I get around 14 k out of a rear tire then she has that flat spot everyone thinks is ok. I toss it, even though it has a few k left. I tend to think about my safety and not the 30 bucks I can stretch out of a tire.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: JCZ on April 05, 2011, 03:09:51 PM
I join in the line of thinking with Dick and a few others here.....my life is worth more than another 1k miles.  As soon as it gets to the wear bar, it's replaced.....that's what the wear bar is for.

And......a quietly kept secreat......I ride a tad bit more spirited than most...on a regular basis....so I'm not about to take the additional risk of trying to squeeze a few more miles out of a tire.

I also use the transmission and down shift for control in all the twisties....that takes a toll on a tire.  But then, I've never had a warped rotor, either and my brake pads last longer.  It's all relevant my friends. :P
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Spiderman on April 05, 2011, 03:25:05 PM
JC
   You say you've never warped a rotor. Have you always run the free floating rotors that come standard on a CVO on all of your H-D's ? I ask because I've never warped one of those but I've warped several no floating ones. You come flying down off Mt Washington in New Hampshire or Pike's Peak etc and they heat up fast. I know you guys did some serious climbing at the Cripple Creek GTG but you had the Cherry Bomb on that run.

B B
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Dr.D on April 05, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
Dr.D, the difference between you apparent knowledge in this post as compared to the "subthread" you started is what has me convinced my post in your subthread is correct. Keep it up Dude, I need a good daily laugh

B B

In the sub of the subthread that I started in the first thread I was confused but know I see real clear. If the threads are showin the tire ain't no good thanks for showin me this thread. :-\ ::)  :pepper:

In the future I'll try compose better material.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: JCZ on April 05, 2011, 04:02:10 PM
JC
   You say you've never warped a rotor. Have you always run the free floating rotors that come standard on a CVO on all of your H-D's ? I ask because I've never warped one of those but I've warped several no floating ones. You come flying down off Mt Washington in New Hampshire or Pike's Peak etc and they heat up fast. I know you guys did some serious climbing at the Cripple Creek GTG but you had the Cherry Bomb on that run.

B B

I'm in the mountains all the time.....it's over 7k feet just 80 miles up the road from me. 

While we rode Pike's Peak, that was a dirt road and used mostly gearing coming down with a feather of the brakes now and then. I ride asphalt the same way.  Been riding since the early 70s and have never had a warped rotor however, I did have one that cracked on my 86 Heritage, once.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: cyril on April 05, 2011, 04:18:21 PM
Changed the front at 5500 due to cupping changed the rear at 8500 it had squared off a bit it was in for some light damage repairs (no tmy fault) so whilst it being broke down i thought i may as well .Whats a couple of thousand miles difference gonna make ?DO IT

Someone i know went on a 2000m trip with a rear tyre you could see where the tread used to be (shadow) until the white wall started peeling off with the heat then he got worried & had it changed. Along with the starter that decided to die overall cost 1800ch Francs.
Serves him right. :-\
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Spiderman on April 05, 2011, 04:28:24 PM
I'm in the mountains all the time.....it's over 7k feet just 80 miles up the road from me. 

While we rode Pike's Peak, that was a dirt road and used mostly gearing coming down with a feather of the brakes now and then. I ride asphalt the same way.  Been riding since the early 70s and have never had a warped rotor however, I did have one that cracked on my 86 Heritage, once.

OUCH, this is where we part ways JC. I'd rather buy a $120 rotor than rebuild a motor cause I was riding like a trucker with a Jake Brake. Sorry, no offense, just my personal opinion that using your engine to slow your bike down; especially coming down the side of a mountain is hard on it.

B B
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: DICKW on April 05, 2011, 04:43:32 PM
using your engine to slow your bike down; especially coming down the side of a mountain is hard on it.

B B

That's how I always ride, I feel much safer using the engine then the brake in most circumstances. Once you get a good feel for the (your) bike and the conditions you ride the bike under using the engine just feels natural. JMO.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: spydglide on April 05, 2011, 04:48:06 PM
You can't use one or the other if you want to go fast....it takes all of it.  :) spyder
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Dr.D on April 05, 2011, 04:56:42 PM
Worn out tires, brakes and motors just mean you had a great life. Back to work boys so I can make more cash and ride the piss out of em.

I can easily see getting anywhere from 2k to 12K on a tire. There are to  many variables such as roads, riding styles, tire compounds, loads, power application and braking habits that affect milage to come to much of a consensus. It's your money and your life so change when you want to. All my personal opinion and all arguments accepted.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: JCZ on April 05, 2011, 05:19:59 PM
You can't use one or the other if you want to go fast....it takes all of it.  :) spyder
You're right Spyder. :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Spiderman on April 05, 2011, 05:39:40 PM
Wouldn't it be so boring if we all agreed on everything ?

I use my engine only in those situations where the brakes are not enough.

And after 40+ years of riding, I try hard to avoid those situations.

B B
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Fullsac Performance on April 08, 2011, 04:05:21 PM
For this guy, tires, clutches, gearboxs and engines all last about the same.
Ever wonder what the heel shifter was really good for? Wonder no more.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMw-itCK_jU&NR=1

SG
Fullsac
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: dep47 on April 09, 2011, 10:34:31 AM
Just changed my rear tire again with 18000 miles on it,, squaring off a bit, but still not to the wear bars.  Does handle allot better with the new tire.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Chuck Pryor on April 09, 2011, 10:44:43 AM
For this guy, tires, clutches, gearboxs and engines all last about the same.
Ever wonder what the heel shifter was really good for? Wonder no more.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMw-itCK_jU&NR=1

SG
Fullsac

Well that's one way to use up a rear pretty fast...   ;)
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Maladjusted on April 25, 2011, 08:44:14 AM
Doesn't seem to matter how many miles per year I ride... Every time I attend an "event"... I need a new back tire.   (stupid burnout pits!)

Mal
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Rickasha on May 03, 2011, 09:28:58 PM
I had 19,500 on my 09 SE Ultra. My son had just over 23,000 on his 09 SG.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: North Star on May 06, 2011, 06:18:05 PM
I realize cupping is an issue with the front tires, but at 14,000 miles, I've got good tread left on the rear, but it is definitely cupped. Yesterday I was hearing it when I did a long right or left sweeper- any transition from riding straight on the center of the tire- you could hear it making a whirring noise.

Do the rear D408's commonly cup as well?
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Big C. on May 07, 2011, 10:09:51 PM
  Same problem here 9000 mi on the rear with tons of tread left but cupped to chit.  Is this just a Dunlop problem?   Or maybe an issue with the new platform?
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: North Star on May 08, 2011, 11:12:40 PM
  Same problem here 9000 mi on the rear with tons of tread left but cupped to chit.  Is this just a Dunlop problem?   Or maybe an issue with the new platform?

Wonder if HD will cough up on a warranty for a rear?
Title: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: HD4CPA on May 08, 2011, 11:56:53 PM
I have 16k on mine still lots of tread left but has been cupped for 7k+ miles
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Dr.D on May 09, 2011, 10:57:20 AM
Wonder if HD will cough up on a warranty for a rear?

I'll bet they won't. :huepfenlol2: Not even close. :D  Not to sound aggressive or anything but I think you guys are pushing your luck on these tires. Spend the dough and enjoy safe and comfortable riding.

23K on a tire??? why? Because it ain't gone pop yet?
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Limited Lou on May 09, 2011, 06:18:27 PM
I'll bet they won't. :huepfenlol2: Not even close. :D  Not to sound aggressive or anything but I think you guys are pushing your luck on these tires. Spend the dough and enjoy safe and comfortable riding.

23K on a tire??? why? Because it ain't gone pop yet?

I got over 25,000 miles on my rear and just over 30,000 on front.. If you take care of these new 407F and 408 tires they'll last.. Mine would of gone longer safely.. Just shareing the facts...  Hope this helps..
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: TN on May 09, 2011, 10:05:56 PM
so i'm the only one getting 6500 to 7k on these tires. :'(

i don't do burnouts if thats what yer thinking. :-* get her up to speed on occasion.




TN



just changed my rear on the serg with 1/16" of tread left. 6300mi
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Boatman on May 09, 2011, 10:16:41 PM
I got over 25,000 miles on my rear and just over 30,000 on front.. If you take care of these new 407F and 408 tires they'll last.. Mine would of gone longer safely.. Just shareing the facts...  Hope this helps..

What air pressure are you running front and rear?  Thanks, bob
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: SBB on May 09, 2011, 10:24:07 PM
so i'm the only one getting 6500 to 7k on these tires. :'(


Yes.
 :nixweiss:

SBB


modified to add
Yes but most of us get that much and a whole lot more!
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Hugh Janis on May 10, 2011, 07:14:57 AM
so i'm the only one getting 6500 to 7k on these tires. :'(

i don't do burnouts if thats what yer thinking. :-* get her up to speed on occasion.

TN
just changed my rear on the serg with 1/16" of tread left. 6300mi

Count me in that group.  I'm guessing one needs to drive like granny from church to get 20k out of a rear tire.
Title: Re: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: cvosjoe on May 10, 2011, 08:26:27 AM
so i'm the only one getting 6500 to 7k on these tires. :'(

i don't do burnouts if thats what yer thinking. :-* get her up to speed on occasion.




TN



just changed my rear on the serg with 1/16" of tread left. 6300mi

2011 SERGU with 20k on tires. Front tire is at 4/32 and rear is at 3/32. Tire pressure front is 38 and rear is 40. Always ride solo but loaded up on road trips. I am a fairly aggressive rider. Just my 2 cents.

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Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: TN on May 10, 2011, 08:31:08 AM
Count me in that group.  I'm guessing one needs to drive like granny from church to get 20k out of a rear tire.

i mostly just ride my serg on sundays to church and back. :-\


TN


tried the avon cobras also, same results. :'(
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: TN on May 10, 2011, 09:19:46 AM
on my fifth 180/55/18 rear tire with 25k on the clock (serg). :'(  i get the usual 10k out of the rear tire on my 08tr running avon venoms.

glad i have a no-mar changer.




TN
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Dr.D on May 10, 2011, 05:54:43 PM
Well you get what you get and there are many variables that influence wear. I ride on my tires and you on yours. Personally the money is not that important since I love this hobby so much. I enjoy turning the rear of the FatBob into blue smoke at the light so 7K is plenty. I like to see more than that on the Road King.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: kraut on May 10, 2011, 08:07:16 PM
we are an elderly couple riding very decently, no burn-outs  ;)

But as we got some really enjoyable mountain-sites around us we use up those Dunlops (both) at some 7-9.000 m with the new frame and ABS.

With the old bikes we got around 8.000 m on rear and 16.000 m on front (Dunlop-) tyres.

But I must admit as our country can be rain-soaked we never go anywhere near the limits  ::)
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Dr.D on May 11, 2011, 10:16:11 AM
Kraut I like that never going near the limit thing. One slip down is to many.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: JCZ on May 11, 2011, 10:27:32 AM
  Same problem here 9000 mi on the rear with tons of tread left but cupped to chit.  Is this just a Dunlop problem?    Or maybe an issue with the new platform?

I can't help but wonder if it's a "balance" problem.  With various brands I've used over the years.....I'll get good wear out of two or three then one will cup really bad.  It's happened with all the brands.  Is it a bad wheel balance?  I know that once they start cupping, there's no stopping it.

I've experienced the same but not as often.....with a tire wearing more on one side than the other.  I had a dealership try to tell me a few years ago that it's because they're laying the roads with a higher center crown. :zstupid:  Funny thing is, it hasn't happened to any of the tires since.  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Dr.D on May 11, 2011, 01:47:32 PM
I can't help but wonder if it's a "balance" problem.  With various brands I've used over the years.....I'll get good wear out of two or three then one will cup really bad.  It's happened with all the brands.  Is it a bad wheel balance?  I know that once they start cupping, there's no stopping it.

I've experienced the same but not as often.....with a tire wearing more on one side than the other.  I had a dealership try to tell me a few years ago that it's because they're laying the roads with a higher center crown. :zstupid:  Funny thing is, it hasn't happened to any of the tires since.  :nixweiss:

The crowns of the roads are sinking and now are laying flat.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: FXDF_Rogue on May 27, 2011, 02:16:25 PM
Replacing my stock tire on my FLHXSE2 this weekend with less than 9,000 miles of mostly freeway riding.  I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty disappointed with the tread life of the stock tires on this and my FXDF as well. 
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: CVO King on May 29, 2011, 08:36:51 AM
2011 FLHXSE2 replaced both front & rear at 22K still had a few K left but why push it to the max?
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: TheDawg on June 04, 2011, 10:24:53 PM
I got 15K out the tires on my 09 SERG.  I was happy with that since I ride pretty hard.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: North Star on June 06, 2011, 10:29:41 PM
15,000 on the rear of my SERG as well- still lots of tread left, but it was cupped, so I just replaced it with the OEM.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: spada84 on June 06, 2011, 11:38:02 PM
1st rear, 16K, 2nd at 19K (nail), 3rd at 34K.  Felt safe on the 3rd, but was leaving on a 1200 mile trip.  Never showed any wear bars.

Still have the original front at 36K   :o  No cupping and plenty of tread left. 

I don't do burnouts, but ride the bike pretty hard.  ("How'd that imprint of a tire get on the sidewalk in front of your office?).  Usually I do 2 rears to a front.  Don't know why this one has lasted this long.  ???
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Christian on June 09, 2011, 04:35:39 AM
I got about 11,5tkm (= 7k miles) and the rear was down.
No burn outs, but heavy riding on Autobahn (always above 110mph). It´s a fast bike ;D
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: spydglide on June 09, 2011, 07:06:47 AM
1st rear, 16K, 2nd at 19K (nail), 3rd at 34K.  Felt safe on the 3rd, but was leaving on a 1200 mile trip.  Never showed any wear bars.

Still have the original front at 36K   :o  No cupping and plenty of tread left. 

I don't do burnouts, but ride the bike pretty hard.  ("How'd that imprint of a tire get on the sidewalk in front of your office?).  Usually I do 2 rears to a front.  Don't know why this one has lasted this long.  ???
Hey Spada, I think the tire-fairy slipped in and swapped out that rear tire for a brand spanking new one while you were sleeping.  :zzz: har.  spyder
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: BTAman on June 13, 2011, 05:13:20 PM
I got 11K out the back tire on my 09 SERG.  It wasn't quite down to the wear bar but since they were already working on my bike I had them change it out just to be safe. My front tire was replace under warranty at 5K for the cupping issue.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: kraut on June 20, 2011, 10:38:18 AM
I got about 11,5tkm (= 7k miles) and the rear was down.
No burn outs, but heavy riding on Autobahn (always above 110mph). It´s a fast bike ;D

breaking wears the tires more than accelerating  ;D
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: cahdbiker on June 20, 2011, 02:56:53 PM
Jerry/MD, I think tire mileage has a lot to do with where you ride. My friend has a 2001 Heritage and regularly gets 15k out of the rear. He rides about 70 miles per day on the freeway to work and back, and sometimes we cruise thru the Santa Monica mountains. My first bike, 1995 Heritage which I now ride locally only, will barely get 10k from the rear, but always 20K from the front. I ride a combo of mountain roads and freeway. This also has an effect on brake pads. I crank it on when I get on the freeway and I don't drop gears when coming to a light on surface streets. Sometimes I ride it easy and sometimes I ride it hard. On my 09SEUC I hate to admit I only have 9k miles on it and both tires still look really good, but If I get 15K out of the rear and 20K out of the front I will be happy. I check the tire pressures at least twice a month on both bikes, and if they are off it is usually by only a pound or two. I have never met anyone who got 20K out of a rear tire on a Big Twin, but of course I believe what the guys on the site have posted. One of the guys on the site who is local to me just switched to Dunlop American Elite (not Elite 3 ) I will be checking in with him after a while to see what kind of tire mileage he is getting.  JMHO. CAHDBIKER
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: faceracer on July 08, 2011, 03:17:57 PM
09 SERG 10k first rear. 15k first front. About to put 2nd rear on this week at 20k.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: North Star on July 12, 2011, 11:21:32 PM
Amazing the varying ranges of mileage it takes to wear out a tire.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Highjagger on July 26, 2011, 01:27:58 AM
09 SERG :

Front changed at (tkm ) 10-24-42-55
Rear changed at (tkm)  11-24-42-55

At these points the tires are still good enough to keep when the street is dry but with little rain the slippery begins and the front is singing when doing twistys louder and louder .
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Beemer on August 02, 2011, 08:56:44 AM
09SERG

Front replaced (cupping) with another 407 at around 5K (didn't have a 408 in stock and I was leaving on a 1,500 mile trip)

Rear replaced at 9K (Cupping) with half tread left to boot!

Front 407 replaced at 9K with 408 (407 started to cup)

Have 20K on the bike now and rear is cupped badly again with center tread depth HD guage still in green.  Front tire is fine.

I ride 85% two-up and run 41 psi rear/40 front.

Wondering if the 18" blade wheels are more prone to cupping than others. 
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on August 02, 2011, 02:46:15 PM
I had 20,500 on the rear tire on my 09 SERG when I replaced it.  I had less than 500 miles riding double.

I was very happy with the tread life.
Just replaced the rear tire again.  Not as happy this time, it was on the wear bars at 15,200 miles.  No riding double.  There where a couple long trips in very hot weather though.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Monolyth on August 05, 2011, 06:12:08 PM
2010 Street glide. 21,000 miles in 12 months.  Replaced front and rear tire at 19,000.  99% solo riding.  Mostly Rain & Snow riding, so pavement was usually wet.

Talking with the dealership they were surprised I got so many miles until they found out that it was in such a small time frame.  Because the 19,000 miles was only in 11 months, the tires were pretty much at perfect tire pressue for all 19,000 miles and had never been "parked" to age or crack, etc... 

Anyway, what do I know.. all I know is I was happy to get almost 20,000 miles out of the front and rear. 

Monolyth
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: spydglide on August 05, 2011, 06:29:06 PM
2010 Street glide. 21,000 miles in 12 months.  Replaced front and rear tire at 19,000.  99% solo riding.  Mostly Rain & Snow riding, so pavement was usually wet.

Talking with the dealership they were surprised I got so many miles until they found out that it was in such a small time frame.  Because the 19,000 miles was only in 11 months, the tires were pretty much at perfect tire pressue for all 19,000 miles and had never been "parked" to age or crack, etc... 


Monolyth
In addition to tire pressure being right on, I think the cool/wet pavement probably helped also.  Seems as if the hot summer asphalt just melts the tread off of mine.  :( spyder
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: faceracer on August 06, 2011, 12:25:51 PM
2010 Street glide. 21,000 miles in 12 months.  Replaced front and rear tire at 19,000.  99% solo riding.  Mostly Rain & Snow riding, so pavement was usually wet.

Talking with the dealership they were surprised I got so many miles until they found out that it was in such a small time frame.  Because the 19,000 miles was only in 11 months, the tires were pretty much at perfect tire pressue for all 19,000 miles and had never been "parked" to age or crack, etc... 

Anyway, what do I know.. all I know is I was happy to get almost 20,000 miles out of the front and rear. 

Monolyth
I am curious of the condition after that many miles? Where they just reaching wear bars? or where they bald? Where any cords showing? please enlighten me. I have been riding motorcycles on the street for 34 years and have never had a tire on the rear go that far? We are talking about 6 different bikes and well over 200k miles? I have run dunlop, metzler, Avon, Continental and Pirelli's.  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: ultrafxr on August 06, 2011, 05:35:40 PM
I have 12.5k on my '11 RUSE.  Just checked tires and rear has 5/32" and front about 3.5/32" tread.  Wow, on my older style frame bikes I would get maybe 11k or 12k from the rear but as much as 24k+ on the front.  Looks like the front may go before or at least along with the rear on the '11.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: spydglide on August 06, 2011, 06:20:57 PM
I have 12.5k on my '11 RUSE.  Just checked tires and rear has 5/32" and front about 3.5/32" tread.  Wow, on my older style frame bikes I would get maybe 11k or 12k from the rear but as much as 24k+ on the front.  Looks like the front may go before or at least along with the rear on the '11.
Wow, that is different.  I've always gotten 2 1/2 to 3 rear to fronts.  Average 10K rear and 28K front....sometimes more, sometimes less.  But, 1 to 1 front to rear is something new for sure.  spyder
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: LarryB on August 06, 2011, 06:31:11 PM
Best I got on a rear d407 was 15250. got 13500 on the first one. got 5250 on the 3rd set. I always change the front when I do the rear.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Monolyth on August 08, 2011, 02:28:56 PM
I am curious of the condition after that many miles? Where they just reaching wear bars? or where they bald? Where any cords showing? please enlighten me. I have been riding motorcycles on the street for 34 years and have never had a tire on the rear go that far? We are talking about 6 different bikes and well over 200k miles? I have run dunlop, metzler, Avon, Continental and Pirelli's.  :nixweiss:

Rear was just under 2/32 I believe, same with the front.  Hostorically on my Heritiage and sporters I get 2 rear tires for each front 1.  But on my 2010 street glide they wore out at the same time.  I know in 2010 they supposedly made the rear tire a harder rubber to last longer..

They were not bald, nor did they have any steel belts showing etc...

Monolyth
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Limited Lou on August 08, 2011, 05:28:04 PM
There talking about the Dunlop 407 & 408 tires that the touring models came out in 2009, the tread is improved. My rear tire on my 2010 Limited was changed at  over 25,000 miles.. Front was just changed at 30,622.. Was ready for new..

These miles were mostly in Florida. Got the New American Elite and have over 15,000 miles on rear, Still looks great. I feel I might get more miles..  Will find out, Hopefully..
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: kraut on August 09, 2011, 03:02:15 AM
Wow, that is different.  I've always gotten 2 1/2 to 3 rear to fronts.  Average 10K rear and 28K front....sometimes more, sometimes less.  But, 1 to 1 front to rear is something new for sure.  spyder

Yes it's new but a more or less general observation with the 09-up touring models as our dealer confirmed when I first changed tires on my 09. Various reasons may be responsible, not the least could be harder breaking with the new Brembo/ABS system. And I suspect Dunlop did indeed change the mixture for the front tires with the 407's. I'm on the 3rd set since 22.000 m.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: spydglide on August 09, 2011, 06:21:46 AM
Yes it's new but a more or less general observation with the 09-up touring models as our dealer confirmed when I first changed tires on my 09. Various reasons may be responsible, not the least could be harder breaking with the new Brembo/ABS system. And I suspect Dunlop did indeed change the mixture for the front tires with the 407's. I'm on the 3rd set since 22.000 m.
Probably more so a 'softer' overall compound than harder braking I would think for the front but also increased rear mileage is a bigger factor in the ratio.  I know that some riders use a lot more rear brake than I do and that's got to be factored into each situation also.  spyder     
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: HDBaggerDave on August 11, 2011, 12:56:27 PM
Replaced the rear of the 09 SERG at 21,500.  Still looked pretty good but why push it with a lot of long rides coming up. 
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: MKW on August 16, 2011, 11:04:14 PM
Just replaced both at 10K but still had some life on them.  I was planning an Iron Butt ride and wanted good contact with the road.  I would venture to guess that I had an additional 2-3K left on the rear and 5K for the front.  I change my wife's out more often on her Road King just to look out for her a little bit more.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: RioGlide on August 20, 2011, 01:01:01 PM
I always change rears at 10k no matter what.

Have gotten as few as 6k on rears, heat and hills tear em up.

Used to go up to 20k on front but now I'm reducing my limit to 15k, no point in pushing the limit.

A very slow riding friend has his original rubber on a 05 RK classic with 27k miles on it.  I think that's nuts, I don't care how gentle you are on em.  I know those had a harder compound but that's just risky, which is ironic given this guy's pretty risk-averse.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: Dr.D on September 13, 2011, 03:40:14 PM
I just put new rubber on front and rear for the wife's SG at 15K, but she drives like a woman. ;D

I would wonder if different parts of the country have more or less coarse road surfaces? We had one road up to the house that was as slick as ice after a shower, much more slippery than the other roads in the area. My father-in-law said something about the composition of the asphalt being different on that road. I saw some very coarse roads out west.
Title: Re: 09 And Newer Touring...How Many Miles on Rear Tire?
Post by: cahdbiker on September 14, 2011, 08:50:41 PM
Jerry M/D, I have commented on this thread earlier. However, I just got back froma 3500 mile vacation with passenger and a fair amont of luggage.All different types of road surfaces. My original front tire (D407F) was cupped so bad at 11,251 miles it got replaced at BigSky Hd in Great falls Montana. When I left my rear looked like I was going to make it to 15,000 miles easily, but when I returned and had a front fork seal replaced dealer said I only had 3/32 left. On the bright side I ordered a new American Elite 180/65B16 from Sporttour (866-761-0936) delivered to my door for $185.90 I think their website is sporttour.com I checked with Dunlop before I ordered this tire and they said it is compatable with the D408  that I just had installed on the front. I hope I get at least 15K out of this American Elite. Dunlop told me it would be quieter then the 407 and it sure looks like it has a lot of tread. I hope this info helps someone out. CAHDBIKER