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Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« on: January 21, 2018, 10:26:27 PM »

Have been thinking about replacing the stock oil pan with the Screaming Eagle oil pan.  The area gets pretty hot and would think that the extra oil and construction would help in keeping the temperature down.  Would not work if stuck in traffic but have turned off the motorcycle if not moved in a period of time and also pulled off to the side also.  The engine is a SE 110 cu in just to state the obvious.  The parts person at the dealership stated the new Milwaukee engine has a larger oil pan so this is something to consider also.  Anyone swapped the oil pan and what have been the results?   :confused5:
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2018, 10:31:21 PM »

Have been thinking about replacing the stock oil pan with the Screaming Eagle oil pan.  The area gets pretty hot and would think that the extra oil and construction would help in keeping the temperature down.  Would not work if stuck in traffic but have turned off the motorcycle if not moved in a period of time and also pulled off to the side also.  The engine is a SE 110 cu in just to state the obvious.  The parts person at the dealership stated the new Milwaukee engine has a larger oil pan so this is something to consider also.  Anyone swapped the oil pan and what have been the results?   :confused5:

The various laws of thermodynamics don't work that way.  Increasing the volume might make it take just a little longer for that oil volume to reach whatever is the max temp your system is forcing it to.  Increasing the volume doesn't lower that system produced temp though.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2018, 11:58:47 PM »

^^^ this
It will take longer to normlize, but in the end the oil will be the same temp as before.
If temps are a concern look in to other forms of supplemental cooling.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 03:38:11 AM »

Only thing those pans do is transfer money from your pocket to the seller.  If you want actual cooling when in stop-n-go, put a fan on the oil cooler.  Many available, including Big Sky Fans, which are a great value at ~ $70 for complete kit.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 08:30:26 AM »


The only temp related slight benefit to that oil pan has to do with the amount of time the oil stays in the pan cooling before it gets pumped back into the engine.  The pan is a heat sink, and between the improved baffling and larger surface area exposed to the atmosphere there should be a little more heat transfer from the oil compared to stock.  If you were to do a proper test of the real difference, I'd expect it to be less than the implied benefit in the sales pitch.  As others have noted, it would be much better to spend the money on a fan assisted oil cooler and/or cylinder head cooling fans.  The least obtrusive and most effective design I've seen for head cooling fans is the Wards unit (search for threads on "wards cooling fans".  As for the oil cooler, Jagg makes a nice fan assisted ten row cooler.  If you get stuck in slow or stopped traffic often, both of those items will make a huge difference compared to that oil pan.

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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 10:50:17 AM »

I believe Wards may be out of business, but Love Jugs makes a smaller version called the mighty mite that looks "just like" the Wards fans. I love them so far even if it's just the piece of mind I feel.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 01:42:01 PM »

I have a fan on my front low mount oil cooler and another one behind the horn blowing in between the cylinders. Changed out the later with Wards fans and they do work better according to my oil temp gauge.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 04:54:01 PM »

In the right application they have their place.  The advantage is not a cooler running engine, and there is more to it than oil life.  The warm up time can be addressed with an oil cooler thermostat.

For most.  I agree.  Waste of money. 
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2018, 06:28:11 PM »

Waste of money  - not sure what you would gain to make the expense worthwhile.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 07:27:08 PM »

Waste of money  - not sure what you would gain to make the expense worthwhile.


You get to walk around thinking "mine is bigger."
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 07:37:53 PM »

I may be optimistic but the idea of +1.5 quarts of motor oil would likely benefit high oil temperatures based on the design, especially for someone towing a trailer.  On performance auto engines and transmissions it helps.  I certainly wouldn't pay $600 + labor for it though.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 08:29:26 PM »

The only benefit I think a bigger oil pan would be is to help deaerate the oil in other words help get the air out of the oil before it gets back to the pick up tube

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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 10:40:20 PM »


You get to walk around thinking "mine is bigger."

Yeah, plus it's a Screamin' Eagle oil pan.  As compared to all the non Screamin' Eagle oil pans.

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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2018, 12:19:22 AM »

Yeah, plus it's a Screamin' Eagle oil pan.  As compared to all the non Screamin' Eagle oil pans.

Correct. It's not just big it's like moderator big when it's Screamin Eagle.
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Re: Screaming Eagle Oil Pan
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 08:28:18 AM »

Correct. It's not just big it's like moderator big when it's Screamin Eagle.

Oil moderation is a slippery one.

Also, something now is reminding me of the old Vroom motors on bicycles.

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