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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2018, 11:25:53 AM »

All the people that have already replaced ABS pumps are still screwed for the large repair expense. Heluva deal to have a huge bill and get a quart of brake fluid in return.  And what about all those ABS pumps that now get new fluid but have whatever pitting or other internal issues that have slowly developed over time.  New fluid isn't going to magically repair existing finished surfaces.

I wondered the same thing.  If your ABS system is already damaged, new fluid isn't going to heal that.  I'm just speculating HD jumped on a voluntary recall for brake fluid to keep the govt at bay and to try and keep Uncle Sugar from issuing a recall on the ABS...which would cost who knows how much.
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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2018, 11:48:12 AM »

That'll all change when a couple of riders crash after the fluid change recall is performed.
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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2018, 12:37:24 PM »

How different is this from all the hydraulic clutch issues on the 2014+?  fluid damaging parts, corrosion, etc.  Sounds very similar. 
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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2018, 01:36:03 PM »

How different is this from all the hydraulic clutch issues on the 2014+?  fluid damaging parts, corrosion, etc.  Sounds very similar.

Yup, similar story, didn't believe that one either.  I'm still laughing my butt off about the "special" DOT 4 fluid they are supposed to use for the ABS recall, I can't remember if that same "special" fluid was used for the clutch master cylinder fiasco.  Perhaps the "special" fluid contains a secret ingredient that will magically "heal" the damage. :nixweiss:

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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2018, 05:18:45 PM »

Wonder if I can get reimbursed for actually doing the scheduled fluid change......
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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2018, 05:31:37 PM »

Worth the read, last couple pages....

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2018/RCLRPT-18V076-4574.PDF

Then I ran across this:

http://www.np.co.tt/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/PLATINUM-BRAKE-FLUID-DOT-4.pdf

Did you notice the banner at the top of the pages at the 2nd link Brad.   Not meaning to disparage a possibly fine organization that is unknown to me; but it's from the Trinidad and Tobago National Petroleum Marketing Company Limited.   ???

At least according to the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago a Platinum based DOT 4 will have a boiling point of 500F though; so that ain't bad.  Now I've got a real need for some spicy food...  ;)
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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2018, 06:24:12 PM »

Did you notice the banner at the top of the pages at the 2nd link Brad.   Not meaning to disparage a possibly fine organization that is unknown to me; but it's from the Trinidad and Tobago National Petroleum Marketing Company Limited.   ???

At least according to the citizens of Trinidad and Tobago a Platinum based DOT 4 will have a boiling point of 500F though; so that ain't bad.  Now I've got a real need for some spicy food...  ;)


Well, they are a global company!  I can't say I've ever ran across a "special" dot 4 fluid before or even a "platinum" fluid.
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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2018, 06:38:44 PM »


Well, they are a global company!  I can't say I've ever ran across a "special" dot 4 fluid before or even a "platinum" fluid.

It's a reformation of HD branded Kool Aid
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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2018, 02:05:34 AM »

It's a reformation of HD branded Kool Aid
And all Harley riders are required to drink it.   :drink:   :confused5:
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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2018, 08:38:24 AM »


I find it sad that Harley continues to just lie to avoid responsibility for their own mistakes, but I also find it sad that our regulatory agencies like the NHTSA have fallen so low as to accept this kind of total BS response versus having their own engineers determine the real root cause and then force a mandatory recall to replace hardware, not just some mythical "special' brake fluid. 

Perhaps if Harley hadn't routed the brake lines too close to the exhaust system the fluid wouldn't have become overheated and degraded.  Remember the brake light switch failures from this same time frame due to overheating?  I wonder why Harley didn't blame that one on the customers as well.

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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2018, 10:42:46 AM »

Sitting here trying to think up a customer's blame solution to the brake light switch.  Something like customer must apply pedal in specific morse code pattern spelling out d-u-m-s-h-i-t to flush switch during every two year flush cycle?
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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2018, 02:54:28 PM »

I got my recall notice today!  They are giving me a "free flush" with their H-D Platinum Label DOT 4 Brake Fluid.  Wow, I am so glad the are concerned about my safety.

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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2018, 11:13:12 PM »

I'm still laughing my butt off about the "special" DOT 4 fluid they are supposed to use for the ABS recall, I can't remember if that same "special" fluid was used for the clutch master cylinder fiasco.  Perhaps the "special" fluid contains a secret ingredient that will magically "heal" the damage. :nixweiss:

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Although I have not received an official recall letter in the mail I verified my vin was part of the recall so I stopped by the local dealer today to schedule the flush.

The service tech told me they would not have any of the required brake fluid in until the end of March.

WTF no brake fluid for a month.
The guy who bought my 2011 checked with his local dealer, who also said they won't have that brake fluid until end of March.  It's actually called HD Unobtainium Label .44 brake fluid ;)
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Re: Harley Recalls 174k Motorcycles for Potential Brake Failure
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2018, 12:28:25 AM »

Had my fluid changed last year when I got the bike back went down the road and at the first stop sign the front brake lever was stuck had to down shift and hard on the rear brake sure was pucker time. Pulled to the side and forced the lever a few times before I continued on has been fine since.
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