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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2018, 10:22:16 AM »

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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2018, 10:25:33 AM »

The Indian is looking better every day...
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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2018, 10:38:19 AM »

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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2018, 10:42:22 AM »

This is what happens when they don't listen to their customers and quality control goes in the toilet.    :nixweiss:
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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2018, 10:52:34 AM »

The Silver Tsunami isn't helping them either.
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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2018, 12:24:12 PM »

I like this statement.... as sales have gone down profits are up almost 3% because they have not discounted bikes.  They seem proud of 2% profit (probably from t-shirt sales) to their shareholders while they are stacking up 30K -50K bikes in the showroom!   All awhile they are betting on 2 million new riders buying Harley's.  Sales of their entry level bikes are down 30%.  They aren't really chipping away at that 2 mil and changing around colors & handle bars on sporties isn't going to cut it.  My buddie wants a bike but can't seem to justify 45K for a 2wheel 2cylider bike when he just bought a nicely loaded F150 for the same price.  Therein lies Harley's problem.
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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2018, 01:23:37 PM »

If they really wanted the answers to their problem all they have to do is ask us, the riders. Unfortunately, they don’t want to know because then the investors would show them the door.
This time they won’t pull the rabbit out of the hat and Indian will be building anniversary models every 5 years.
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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2018, 07:53:02 PM »

It is as though the MOCO can't make the connection between their quality issues and their lagging sales.  At least not in public anyway.  I am surprised shareholders are not bringing up the quality problems at shareholder meetings...
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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2018, 08:07:42 PM »

I really think they assumed brand loyalty would carry them, and this idea of Harley "lifestyle".  Turns out consumers aren't that dumb.  Their quality issues and, more importantly their handling of them (including dealer network) has hammered them hard.
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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2018, 09:38:54 PM »

If Someone said in 1990 that General Motors would go out of business, everyone would have said that's crazy.  It's not out of the realm of possibility that HD could face the same fate, or be gobbled up by another company...history repeating itself?
« Last Edit: May 03, 2018, 09:40:35 PM by Mark »
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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2018, 08:24:33 AM »

Just my observation.  When I bought Petunia in 2009, this site was hopping. As new model years were released the site became flooded with new site members and thousands of new posts.  It seemed like a hundred new posts per day.

Over the past few years this has not been the case. Recent releases of new model years have not brought the flood on new members like the past. I suspect it is closely related to HD’s drop in sales and the lack of interest in their offerings.

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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2018, 08:33:07 AM »

Just my observation.  When I bought Petunia in 2009, this site was hopping. As new model years were released the site became flooded with new site members and thousands of new posts.  It seemed like a hundred new posts per day.

Over the past few years this has not been the case. Recent releases of new model years have not brought the flood on new members like the past. I suspect it is closely related to HD’s drop in sales and the lack of interest in their offerings.

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We're still here, Chuck.....Neal is stuck with us.... ;D :huepfenjump3: :bananarock: :huepfenlol2:

I will agree with you that the traffic has lost some acceleration.... :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2018, 08:56:44 AM »

We're still here, Chuck.....Neal is stuck with us.... ;D :huepfenjump3: :bananarock: :huepfenlol2:

I will agree with you that the traffic has lost some acceleration.... :2vrolijk_21:


We are sumpin’   ;D :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Harley Sales Go From Bad to Worse
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2018, 09:11:22 AM »

JUST WONDERING IF ANY OF THE "SHARE HOLDERS" own a H-D? if not ,maybe they should try the product they're investing in. then a whole lot of corporate exec's would be out the door
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