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Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« on: April 20, 2014, 11:51:02 AM »

My dealer, Dudley Perkins HD of SF, has two 2014 CVO Limited bikes on the showroom floor: a burgundy blaze/typhoon maroon one and a jupiter blue/wicked sapphire one. The blue one has been on the floor for over a month.

Is it just that it is tax time? Or is there price resistance at $45K out the door.

The BMW MC dealer is selling all the high end bikes it can get.
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2014, 12:08:56 PM »

Time of year (as you mention tax time/beginning of riding season in some areas), also some may be waiting on MY 2015 bikes too. :nixweiss:

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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2014, 12:31:39 PM »

$45K??

Seems inflated maybe that's the reason.
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2014, 12:35:49 PM »

My dealer, Dudley Perkins HD of SF, has two 2014 CVO Limited bikes on the showroom floor: a burgundy blaze/typhoon maroon one and a jupiter blue/wicked sapphire one. The blue one has been on the floor for over a month.

Is it just that it is tax time? Or is there price resistance at $45K out the door.

The BMW MC dealer is selling all the high end bikes it can get.

If he's asking 45K for his bikes, that is the problem.  There is NO way I would ever pay anything over MSRP for a bike.  I guess he is waiting on the uninformed buyer to walk in who doesn't know any better.
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2014, 12:58:05 PM »

In his OP he said 45k >OTD<, not the asking price.
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2014, 01:54:14 PM »

The motor company is building a lot of touring bikes right now. My local dealer is loaded up with ultra Limited models and a couple CVO Limited's. Harley really rampted up for 2014.
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2014, 05:06:19 PM »

In his OP he said 45k >OTD<, not the asking price.

$45K out the door still don't make sense. Price is inflated. Run away!!
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2014, 05:30:48 PM »

$45K out the door still don't make sense. Price is inflated. Run away!!

Maybe taxes and registration fees are a LOT higher in CA ?? :nixweiss:
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2014, 05:42:57 PM »

Maybe taxes and registration fees are a LOT higher in CA ?? :nixweiss:

I guess it could be, I don't know what taxes that they add on there. 7 or 8% here I believe.
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2014, 05:46:23 PM »

Sales tax here's 6.5% plus about $150 for registration fees. So the price seems way to high to me. Even if I add in the insurance cost...


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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2014, 05:57:05 PM »

Dealer by me has also had two sitting on the floor for a month now. At msrp. Blue one and burgendy one.
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2014, 05:57:50 PM »

SF is at least 8.75% sales tax and the licensing fees are some of the highest in the nation.  Generally speaking, you have to add at least 10% to the purchase price for tax/licensing.  So, for a $40k selling price that otd price seems about right.
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2014, 06:06:53 PM »

Those are some high fees for sure. Is the registration fee one time or do you have to renew and pay again every year or two?

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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2014, 08:09:43 PM »

The SF sales tax is $3,412 (@8.75%). The registration is $347 paid yearly with the first payment due at purchase. The rest has to be shipping to the West Coast, "handling", and a dealership "doc" fee. I'll take a picture of the sales price card the next time I'm at the dealership.
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Re: Have 2014 CVO Limited sales hit a wall?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2014, 08:51:52 PM »


MSRP is $38,999 and freight is $435.  The freight is the same no matter where they ship the bike in the USA, it's an average figure based on the entire country.  The guys who live two blocks down the street from the assembly plant pay the same freight as the guys on the other side of the country.

$38,999.00  +  435.00  =  $39,434.00

$39,434.00  X  .0875    =      3450.48   SF Sales Tax

                                         347.00    CA Registration

          TOTAL  OTD     =  $43,231.48

Any other charges from the dealership are bogus add-ons.  For instance, prep and doc fees.  The only prep is what Harley already pays them to do, like uncrate the bike, install or relocate certain items, install the Maxi fuse, etc..  There is a checklist Harley requires them to fill out, and Harley allows them approximately two hours for this "prep".  Any prep charges added on by the dealer are purely additional profit, on top of the 20% margin already built in to the MSRP. 

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