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[262 CVO 16]

Revzilla Review:
http://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/testing-the-new-harley-davidson-milwaukee-eight?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=9/10/2016&utm_term=Common%20Tread

[CHH_Badkarma]

On par with most of the things I have heard other people say.

Now bring on the M8 powered breakouts

Waiting....
Waiting.....

[SDCVO]

Been reading quite a bit about the new motor and from everything I have read from multiple sources it seems like a pretty big winner. Now i look forward to S&S's version...

[grc]

Been reading quite a bit about the new motor and from everything I have read from multiple sources it seems like a pretty big winner. Now i look forward to S&S's version...

We can always hope it's a winner, but don't forget all the press at the introduction of the Twin Cam was nothing but praise as well.  It will take some time out here in the real world to know if they really fixed all the design and quality issues.  I'm truly hoping they did and it really is a winner for them and the customers.

Jerry

[ultrafxr]

We can always hope it's a winner, but don't forget all the press at the introduction of the Twin Cam was nothing but praise as well.  It will take some time out here in the real world to know if they really fixed all the design and quality issues.  I'm truly hoping they did and it really is a winner for them and the customers.

Jerry

We can only hope (and pray) they learned from their mistakes in the initial design and testing of the TC and most especially its 110 version.  Lots of humble pie to woof down there for sure.  It would be great if this new motor was pretty much bullet proof for 100k.

[Twolanerider]

The motorcycle press is such a sycophant to HD specifically and the industry generally that it is supposed to cover I give zero credence to press accounts.  They (the press) haven't earned the respect.  I too hope the new engine is great.  But that's just a hope that will only be borne out over time and not be elevated by any trade or advertising rag.

[ultrafxr]

The motorcycle press is such a sycophant to HD specifically and the industry generally that it is supposed to cover I give zero credence to press accounts.  They (the press) haven't earned the respect.  I too hope the new engine is great.  But that's just a hope that will only be borne out over time and not be elevated by any trade or advertising rag.

I totally agree Don but I'm not sure exactly how Revzilla fits in to the picture.  They are not the press looking for advertising revenue but they are looking to sell parts and accessories for the bikes so I would think getting interest (and purchases) all ginned up would equate to more coins for them. 

In general the media is totally void of any objectivity in this and many other areas.  I tune out 99.9% of what they promulgate.

[Twolanerider]

I totally agree Don but I'm not sure exactly how Revzilla fits in to the picture.  They are not the press looking for advertising revenue but they are looking to sell parts and accessories for the bikes so I would think getting interest (and purchases) all ginned up would equate to more coins for them. 

In general the media is totally void of any objectivity in this and many other areas.  I tune out 99.9% of what they promulgate.

My only thoughts there Jerry are 1) If an aftermarket vendor that is a mass marketing seller like Revzilla wants consumers both interested in and trusting enough of their bike to think it worthwhile to spend more money on it they'd be unlikely to share a review that would dampen enthusiasm for the bike and, therefore, purchases for it and 2) it's still so new how can they really have a clue how "good" it's going to be

[SDCVO]

Time will tell for sure. We can all hope!

[muddypaws]

Please have any fixes done before mine comes...

[ultrarider123]

Please have any fixes done before mine comes...

Well said....

[grc]

The more I read all these glowing reviews the more I think back to all the other glowing reviews of previous Harley offerings that completely missed the glaring faults that quickly surfaced.  It is way too early for anyone to be able to provide a full and factual and honest appraisal of the new design, so all you see is rehashing of the press releases put out by Harley and maybe an opinion or two after a ten minute demo ride.  Don't forget, some of the same people or organizations put out glowing reviews of the Twin Cam/Cruise Drive fiasco from 2006/2007.  In other words, we can always hope for the best, but don't be fooled by uninformed early reports from people who have little if any real world experience with the new bikes.  I agree 100% with Twolane btw.

JMHO - Jerry

[sadunbar]

I totally agree Don but I'm not sure exactly how Revzilla fits in to the picture.  They are not the press looking for advertising revenue but they are looking to sell parts and accessories for the bikes so I would think getting interest (and purchases) all ginned up would equate to more coins for them. 

In general the media is totally void of any objectivity in this and many other areas. I tune out 99.9% of what they promulgate.

Well said, Jerry!  I think I am about .1% less confident than you in their assessment!   

[2smoke]

The moto-press can comment and evaluate on the design and theory of any engine and they all look good on paper when explained to you by the people behind the concept.  Test drive one that has been prepared and you might even be blown away by design.  Open your wallet and lay down thousands of your hard-earn dollars and the story can suddenly change. You can't see Chinese bearings hidden by nice shiny chrome covers and sloppy tolerances passed off by management concerned with production numbers and poor quality put-out by unskilled, cheap temporary labor that aren't paid enough to even purchase the very product they make. Buyer beware.

[Rooster]

I to hope for the best but I don't really think the MOCO is eating any Humble Pie at all. To busy patting each other on the back with the new motors.

[Mr D]

Good clip, Lemmy does a great job 

[charles05663]

I thought this was the most interesting point of the post:

 It also should be mentioned — if it’s not plainly evident — that the days of the infinitely rebuildable, easy-to-wrench, keep-it-for-your-grandkids Harley is done and gone. Bozmoski danced around the issue of the plain-roller crank bearings that were used to ill effect in the Twin Cam and carried forth to the Milwaukee-Eight.

“We didn’t see a need to use double tapered-roller bearings,” he said.

When I asked him why, then, Harley offers a kit for Twin Cams to convert back to that style of bearing — used from 1954 to 2001, and abandoned presumably due to cost — I got a simple answer.

“Customer perception. Sometimes customers think they need it.”

Sounds like they really cheapened the motor and want users to bring it back to the shop.