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[ParadigmGuy]

Out of curiosity, what do you think the MSRP would be on a 2021 CVO Limited with a 131...$46k?  The only riders buying HD tourers are baby boomers, and most are retired or very close.  Spending $50k for a motorcycle on a retirement income is going to give many retirees pause.   

I'm not a baby boomer. None of my seven good riding buddies are baby boomers. We all ride touring bikes. Two of the seven of us are retired.

[OBB]

So, what does everyone think of the new 131 inch crate motor for M8 touring frames? Kinda nuts that it's not included in a high dollar CVO in my opinion.

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I always thought the same thing about the 120ST/120R. Why didn't it come standard in the CVO instead of the 110.

Oh wait, even the CVO owners need to have some kind of upgrade to look forward to.   

[Phreakyz]

I'm not a baby boomer. None of my seven good riding buddies are baby boomers. We all ride touring bikes. Two of the seven of us are retired.

I'm a Gen X'r myself and my daughter's fiance's Road Glide is parked in my garage for the winter and he's a Gen Z 24 years old.  He bought it when he got out of the Marines...

[FLSTFI Dave]

Out of curiosity, what do you think the MSRP would be on a 2021 CVO Limited with a 131...$46k?  The only riders buying HD tourers are baby boomers, and most are retired or very close.  Spending $50k for a motorcycle on a retirement income is going to give many retirees pause.   

Both sides to this, I do see retirees spending over 40K on new CVO bikes.  Heck, many retirees are spending over 250K on a motorhome.  I also see quite a few guys in their 30's buying touring bikes, I know two in their 20's on road glides.

I'm on the tail end of the boomers, born in 63.  I have been on a true touring bike since 08.  From 02 to 08 I was on a fatboy with saddlebags and a luggage rack and did tour on it.

Honestly my next bike might not be a CVO, but could very well be a road glide special with the 131 kit in it for a little less then a CVO.

[mark]

While stories about younger riders buying touring bikes and retirees spending large sums on RVs are great...they are anecdotal in nature.  The overall financial health of boomers across the country tells a different story, as do the demographics collected by HD.  Boomers make up the bulk of touring bike owners and unfortunately, haven’t saved well for retirement.  So, buying that $45-50k CVO while working was doable, it isn’t any longer.  Sadly, 45% of boomers have no retirement savings.  Of the remaining, 28% have less than $100k.   

[BigLock]

Well said I retired 3 yrs ago n I did buy a 18 CVO RG . It will most likely be my last CVO it's the stable ma to my 12 CVO RG. But most folks that buy RV most likely have sold there homes n just travel the US. Me I'm a traveler but on my bike no house payment n a small farm

[FLSTFI Dave]

While stories about younger riders buying touring bikes and retirees spending large sums on RVs are great...they are anecdotal in nature.  The overall financial health of boomers across the country tells a different story, as do the demographics collected by HD.  Boomers make up the bulk of touring bike owners and unfortunately, haven’t saved well for retirement.  So, buying that $45-50k CVO while working was doable, it isn’t any longer.  Sadly, 45% of boomers have no retirement savings.  Of the remaining, 28% have less than $100k.

While your correct my stories of young guys on touring bikes would be Anecdotal, but does not make them false.  I do know two guys under 30 riding road glides both bought new, I also know at least five under 40 riding touring bikes, again bought new.  I am sure they local dealer where these bikes were bought does not think these sales were anecdotal.  Yes it is a small percentage of the riders under 40 buying touring bikes, but its been that way since the 80's and maybe longer.  Most while raising a family does not have the discresionary income to spend on a 30K motorcycle.  I have had a harley since 18 years old, they were old and used, then went about ten years with no bike due to three daughters in their teen age years.  After first two moved out, Bought a CVO.  Pretty typical of a lot of riders I'll bet.

Go to RV parks in FL this time of year and tell me people are not buying Motorhomes.  Not only are they being them they are spend Huge money on them.

Yes I agree Americans as a whole of done a poor job planing for their future and retirement.  They spent most of what they earned during their working years rather than putting some back for the future.  That said, there are lots of Americans with very nice retirements.  There are 40 homes on my dead in street on the lake, I have one of the least expensive homes.  I am one of five that still has some one in the home working.  Most these homes are over 500K.

First bill I pay is my retirement account, then my mortgage and have been doing that many years.  When you start its hard, once your use to not having that money its not bad.