Topic: connect a TomTom to the ACC-switch (Read 11149 times)

Highjagger · « **on:** January 27, 2009, 03:37:03 AM »

I mounted the TomTom rider 2 -GPS-navigation at the right-side of the handlebar , near the middle , it`s the best position , i could have find and still all instruments are visible from the rider`s place .
Is it possible to throw the cable below the tank , from the front to "under the seat" without removing the tank ?
How do i have to connect the cable from the TomTom that i can activate it with the ACC-switch , is this a work i should better let make the dealer ?

ice6900 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 27, 2009, 03:49:05 AM »

i usually install a cigarette socket to my bikes, i mount it where ever i can under the seat by the oil tank, then i can plug in any device, ie tomtom, mobile phone charger etc. Its a shame moco didnt install a power socket in the fairing, like they did on the Buell Ulysses.

Gone Fishin' · « **Reply #2 on:** January 27, 2009, 04:19:58 AM »

I'd suggest to have the dealer run a cable straight to the mount of the Tomtom. Use a black cloth-braided cable (schwarz, stoffüberzogen ;-), and do not have this switched. It should be on/off with ignition. This way the Tomtom will automatically start when you turn on the ignition and will turn off (there is a setting in the Tomtom menu for this), when you turn the ignition off. No need to have it separately switched!

Ride safely,
Louis

Send some pictures, because

Gone Fishin' · « **Reply #3 on:** January 27, 2009, 04:21:00 AM »

Quote from: ice6900 on January 27, 2009, 03:49:05 AM

i usually install a cigarette socket to my bikes, i mount it where ever i can under the seat by the oil tank, then i can plug in any device, ie tomtom, mobile phone charger etc. Its a shame moco didnt install a power socket in the fairing, like they did on the Buell Ulysses.

The E-Glides do have a cigarette lighter type power socket in the fairing. With so much room, I am surprised that the SERG wouldn't have one.

Ride safely,
Louis

Highjagger · « **Reply #4 on:** January 27, 2009, 06:30:50 AM »

Yes , the SERG has a cigarette lighter on the left side of the sharknose fairing , but where to find a water-resistant plug for the TomTom and then you have to route the cable to it , that does not really look good i guess .
@ Louis , you mean to connect the cable just at the " ignition-lock " ? That would be the shortest way , sure .But then there is no additional electrical-protection , at the ACC there would be one , am i wrong ?

ice6900 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 27, 2009, 07:41:49 AM »

u should be riding fast enough that a water proof tomtom plug is not required. i havnt seen a 09SERG in the flesh yet but do u really think the plug would need to be water proof?

spydglide · « **Reply #6 on:** January 27, 2009, 09:01:12 AM »

Quote from: ice6900 on January 27, 2009, 07:41:49 AM

u should be riding fast enough that a water proof tomtom plug is not required. i havnt seen a 09SERG in the flesh yet but do u really think the plug would need to be water proof?

There are waterproof cigar plugs available thru Marine Catalogs like West Marine. spyder

Highjagger · « **Reply #7 on:** January 27, 2009, 10:15:26 AM »

The cable routing from cigarette lighter to TomTom is the bigger problem .
I´ll check the ignition-idea from Louis .
But the ACC-switch idea would be electrical protected . Hmmmm .

Gone Fishin' · « **Reply #8 on:** January 27, 2009, 10:27:29 AM »

Quote from: Highjagger on January 27, 2009, 06:30:50 AM

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@ Louis , you mean to connect the cable just at the " ignition-lock " ? That would be the shortest way , sure .But then there is no additional electrical-protection , at the ACC there would be one , am i wrong ?

I am not sure if you need a fuse, but there should also be a wire under the seat, always on, but fused.

I am not an expert on the SERG. But I saw one today in orange/black at the Frankfurt dealer. Very impressive, but also very flamboyant, if you know what I mean. I like the silver one much better.

Ride safely,
Louis

ad2 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 27, 2009, 11:57:52 AM »

I had the dealer hard wire mine. They ran the wires under the dash. Very clean. I have mine mounted in teh center because I tend to put so much other crap on the bars there was no better place.

Twolanerider · « **Reply #10 on:** January 27, 2009, 12:09:10 PM »

It's not that difficult to run a lead under the tank. Take out the rear bolt. Loosen the front pair. Watch the front of the tank closely for contact and lift the rear as high as you can. You can fish a stiff wire through and use it to pull something. Not a difficult chore.

There are times you might want the switch on in accy mode but not want the GPS on. Radio in a parking lot or other reasons. So having it switched separately would be my preference also. Run it's +/- leads back under the tank and catch the connector for the accessory switch that already exists. Harley makes a Y connector to meet that plug or just get some Deutsch connector parts and make your own.

RYANCVO · « **Reply #11 on:** January 27, 2009, 01:36:19 PM »

hooked my sat radio up last week. you can remove the spedo/tach cover and use a connector to splice right into the acc switch. two wires comming off of it, i think they were both orange, one with a stripe. one will come on with ignition switch and other with ignition switch on and acc switch on (use a light testor) this makes it fused but dont have to run that far. verry easy!

Gone Fishin' · « **Reply #12 on:** January 27, 2009, 02:15:25 PM »

Quote from: ad2 on January 27, 2009, 11:57:52 AM

I had the dealer hard wire mine. They ran the wires under the dash. Very clean. I have mine mounted in teh center because I tend to put so much other crap on the bars there was no better place.

His bike is a SERG, there is no room in the center for a GPS unit.

Ride safely,
Louis

Highjagger · « **Reply #13 on:** January 27, 2009, 05:46:56 PM »

I have put it directly right of the center , that is ok for me .
@ RYANCVO , you mean that i can route directly to the ACC-switch and connect the TomTom cable there ?

RYANCVO · « **Reply #14 on:** January 27, 2009, 06:24:20 PM »

yes, but u will have to have a 12v to 5v adapter. the cig plug adapter will not work if u wire here. cig lighter is 12v and adapter changes to 5v. if you cut adapter off of cord and plug to 12v it will kill ur tomtom. my hardwire sat radio came with hardwire adapter but you can problaby find 1 at electronics store. just find one that is 12v to 5v with the same size connection to the tomtom

Highjagger · « **Reply #15 on:** January 27, 2009, 06:31:11 PM »

Aaah , thxs , i got it .

Trapperdog · « **Reply #16 on:** January 27, 2009, 07:49:48 PM »

Quote from: RYANCVO on January 27, 2009, 06:24:20 PM

yes, but u will have to have a 12v to 5v adapter. the cig plug adapter will not work if u wire here. cig lighter is 12v and adapter changes to 5v. if you cut adapter off of cord and plug to 12v it will kill ur tomtom. my hardwire sat radio came with hardwire adapter but you can problaby find 1 at electronics store. just find one that is 12v to 5v with the same size connection to the tomtom

Not doubting you but I am surprised the rider 2 uses a 5v system instead of 12v like garmen. I looked at their site and could not distinguish any type of transformer in the battery cord. They could just not be showing it though. As I recall, the Zumo's even came with a cig lighter adapter. It was just long enough to hit the tank on the FLH..'s at full left though. Tons of options if the rider 2 did use 12v . All cig adapters come with a built in fuse, usually a 10a though and needs to be replaced with a 2a if I am correct for the GPS's.

Gone Fishin' · « **Reply #17 on:** January 28, 2009, 01:18:43 AM »

Quote from: trapperdog on January 27, 2009, 07:49:48 PM

Not doubting you but I am surprised the rider 2 uses a 5v system instead of 12v like garmen. I looked at their site and could not distinguish any type of transformer in the battery cord. They could just not be showing it though. As I recall, the Zumo's even came with a cig lighter adapter. It was just long enough to hit the tank on the FLH..'s at full left though. Tons of options if the rider 2 did use 12v . All cig adapters come with a built in fuse, usually a 10a though and needs to be replaced with a 2a if I am correct for the GPS's.

The Tomtom uses 5v when connected to a charger, but 12v when connected to the bike. Highjagger, look at this site (in German) with detailed, almost scientific information: http://69hd.de/public/tomtomrider/rider4.html

Ride safely,
Louis

Highjagger · « **Reply #18 on:** January 28, 2009, 03:07:23 AM »

@ Louis ,
great site , thxs , so the best is really to connect the TomTom to the ACC switch to only give power when it is empty .

Trapperdog · « **Reply #19 on:** January 28, 2009, 10:15:06 AM »

Quote from: Louis on January 28, 2009, 01:18:43 AM

The Tomtom uses 5v when connected to a charger, but 12v when connected to the bike. Highjagger, look at this site (in German) with detailed, almost scientific information: http://69hd.de/public/tomtomrider/rider4.html

Ride safely,
Louis

Interesting, that makes more sense. Not understanding much German, does that mean the bike only runs the reader 2 and does not charge it while riding?

Indenial · « **Reply #20 on:** January 28, 2009, 11:57:32 AM »

The Garmin Nuvi has a transformer that reduces the voltage too. It is in the cigarette lighter adapter on the cord. We cut the wires off above the cigarette lighter after consulting with someone (idiot) at Garmin and wired it to the 12 v wiring of the bike and fried the Nuvi----it smoked and went dead! So be sure to keep the tranformer if your unit has one on the cigarette lighter cord.

BalDeagle · « **Reply #21 on:** January 29, 2009, 05:09:03 AM »

I have hard wired both my last two Garmins direct to the Battery, feeding the cables under the Dashinator (very easy). The advantage of this system is that the unit comes on as soon as it is placed in the cradle and you can set it up/play with it without the bike running. I often look at some of the information it has collected at the end of a ride and it is nice to do this sitting on the bike with the engine off and cooling down (easier to talk to others at the same time). If I want the unit off I just press the "Off" button.

Works well for me.

Nige

Gone Fishin' · « **Reply #22 on:** January 29, 2009, 11:00:58 AM »

Quote from: BalDeagle on January 29, 2009, 05:09:03 AM

I have hard wired both my last two Garmins direct to the Battery, feeding the cables under the Dashinator (very easy). The advantage of this system is that the unit comes on as soon as it is placed in the cradle and you can set it up/play with it without the bike running. I often look at some of the information it has collected at the end of a ride and it is nice to do this sitting on the bike with the engine off and cooling down (easier to talk to others at the same time). If I want the unit off I just press the "Off" button.

Works well for me.

Nige

Exactly what I am saying. No separate switch. Now, as a member of the SERK style police I have to write you a ticket for placing these thingies in a way to obstruct the beauty of the bike!

Ride safely,
Louis

BalDeagle · « **Reply #23 on:** January 29, 2009, 11:47:11 AM »

Quote from: Louis on January 29, 2009, 11:00:58 AM

Exactly what I am saying. No separate switch. Now, as a member of the SERK style police I have to write you a ticket for placing these thingies in a way to obstruct the beauty of the bike!

Ride safely,
Louis

I'm right with you there Louis, but it normally looks like this - when it is not on an 8,500 mile trip round the USA