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CVO Technical => Intake/Exhaust/ECM => Topic started by: Carlos Silva on March 19, 2009, 11:57:09 AM
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beat ya to it...unfortunately took 'good' pics at 7 meg and won't load :oops:, if one of you gurus can shrink 'em somehow I'll email 'em to ya so they can be posted...otherwise - just boring text:
I got their 'Extreme Sterling' coating inside and out...my bike is real hot at a standstill and I'm taking every route to remedy that, they're supposed to drop the pipe temps a couple hundred degrees...also supposed to flow better although can't measure that...gettin' a Dyno tune for my already installed SERT next Wednesday...we'll see
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I am very interested in the photos, and also your opinion on the coating positives, mine is at Jet Hot now, non cat head pipe, supposed to be shipped back to me this week, anxious to get it back, Thanks and God Bless!
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I sent the pics by email to one of the guys here, but he said they're too big for him to even receive...and I sent them one at a time!...brutal...and no, I ain't takin' 'em off again for another photo shoot...maybe Mr. D can take some ;D
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Open explorer, find you pictures, right click - open with Microsoft office picture manager (comes with office) and there is a function under picture that allows you to re size to the 1024 - 768 size allowed under the forum.
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Open explorer, find you pictures, right click - open with Microsoft office picture manager (comes with office) and there is a function under picture that allows you to re size to the 1024 - 768 size allowed under the forum.
genius :2vrolijk_21: thanks Duane...never happen again
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Another option...
If the pics are standard .jpg or .bmp files open them up with MS Paint (comes w/ Windows) then from the Image menu choose Stretch \ Skew...
Set both Horizontal and Vertical at about 35% and be sure to save or re-save as .jpg.
That should shrink them substantially. If not send me a PM and you can email to them me and I'll shrink them for you. I don't think my personal email has a problem w/ 7MB files.
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Ooopsss!!! Crossed threads w/ you.... I suppose a "disregard" message is warranted here... ;)
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anudder
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inside
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lookin' in from cross-under
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additional note, absolutely no extra effort to reinstall O2 sensors, apparently the coating is micro thin
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Great pictures, neat idea. How do they work? Any cooler? I'm thinkin of the same thing.
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i'm jealous. :orange:
TN
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Great pictures, neat idea. How do they work? Any cooler? I thinkin of the same thing.
after just a quick cold spin around the block it seemed torquier with a better throttle response...10:00am Dyno appointment next Wednesday...will report
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Nice job Carlos! They look great and if they do as advertised, adds another means of reducing the heat issue. Any drop in the surface temperature of the headers will reduce the radiant heat being transfered to both the rider and the engine. Money well spent! Buy the way, how much money?
Tommy P
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Very nice, look better than new. Let's Roll
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Carlos, HOW MUCH?????? :2vrolijk_21:
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Carlos can chime in but I had the same thing done to a set of Non CVO headers at Jet Hot and it cost me $210 - less shipping. Mine looks just as good as Carlos but I have yet to install them. The weather is taking a turn for the better here in Boston, so they'll go on soon.
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Nice job Carlos! They look great and if they do as advertised, adds another means of reducing the heat issue. Any drop in the surface temperature of the headers will reduce the radiant heat being transfered to both the rider and the engine. Money well spent! Buy the way, how much money?
Tommy P
yeah, they advertise about a 400 degree drop on the website...we'll see, also another added plus is that the reflection of the pipes not covered by the heat shields off some chrome motor pieces show shiny stuff instead of the nasty bluing from the originals...and they're supposed to never turn or blue...again, we'll see...total bill was $228...not counting me shipping to them
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yeah, they advertise about a 400 degree drop on the website...we'll see, also another added plus is that the reflection of the pipes not covered by the heat shields off some chrome motor pieces show shiny stuff instead of the nasty bluing from the originals...and they're supposed to never turn or blue...again, we'll see...total bill was $228...not counting me shipping to them
That's a great price... :2vrolijk_21: Well worth the benefit you will receive!
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rode a couple of hours yesterday, and although it was in the low 60s I never felt the heat like before, 'specially when stopped at a light...was cookin' before...runs a lot stronger too...still needs the Wednesday tune...hope this guy knows what he's doin', will report
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got my coated pipe back and installed. :2vrolijk_21:
i didn't think about the crossover piece until install. :nixweiss:
sent it off yesterday.
TN
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Carlos-
Did you take before and after temp readings? What were the dyno results?
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Carlos-
Did you take before and after temp readings? What were the dyno results?
sorry, no before and after readings taken, just seat of the pants feel- or maybe thigh of the leg feel...it is much, much cooler, doesn't shut down the rear cylinder anymore either...and yes I did do the tune at the dealership (gave 'em a chance)but the guy was lazy and said he was satisfied after 20 minutes on the Dyno, I got out of there quick as I could...so I ordered the dual bike TTS Tuner from Fullsac with his map...installing on both my buddy and my bike shortly
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Have heat gun will travel, Just picked up a set of non cat 09 touring pipes from a local dealer. Used, 100.00 cash. I will take a reading when I get up to Pottsville Friday night with my stock cat pipes. I am sending my non-cat pipes out tommorow to Jet Hot. Which I just found out that they are located about thirty miles from my humble abode. 240.00 bucks for the Extreme Sterling service. 7 to 10 business days and will be shipped back to me. When they are installed I'll take another reading and post the results. Now all I need is a decision to what size Fullsac Baffles I'll choose.....................Fuzz
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Have heat gun will travel, Just picked up a set of non cat 09 touring pipes from a local dealer. Used, 100.00 cash. I will take a reading when I get up to Pottsville Friday night with my stock cat pipes. I am sending my non-cat pipes out tommorow to Jet Hot. Which I just found out that they are located about thirty miles from my humble abode. 240.00 bucks for the Extreme Sterling service. 7 to 10 business days and will be shipped back to me. When they are installed I'll take another reading and post the results. Now all I need is a decision to what size Fullsac Baffles I'll choose.....................Fuzz
they also have a 48 hour service...not sure how much though, if anyone's in a hurry...like who isn't? :D
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Need contact info foe Jet Hot
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http://www.jet-hot.com/
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they also have a 48 hour service...not sure how much though, if anyone's in a hurry...like who isn't? :D
I'm getting mine done too. 48 hour service is 40% more $. I bought a set of 96 CI pipes never used from my dealer so I'm shipping those and will use the standard 10-14 day time from Jet-Hot. I was quoted $210 for the Extreme Sterling coat plus shipping, and that didn't include the cross over pipe. Has anyone got a price on the cross over pipe and the headpipe? I'll be selling my Fullsac cut out cat. headpipe once I get my new one back for those that might be interested in it PM me.
Randall
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I'll let you know about the crossover pipe. I put it in the box with the header and assumed it was part of the exhaust for $210. Hope they do it.
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I did not do the cross-over pipe...can't imagine it helpin' much
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I did not do the cross-over pipe...can't imagine it helpin' much
i did it so it would match the rest of the exhaust. look at it. :nixweiss:
:orange:
TN
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Just paid $250 for header and crossover with Jet Hot Extreme Sterling. 12 day turn around. Look great, they did nice job coating inside and out. For what it's worth, I am going to take temperature readings before ( factory stock '09 SEUC) and after (SE A/C, 1 3/4" Fullsac, TTS, Non Cat 96" header with Jet Hot, Amsoil.) I will be using a dual input digital thermometer with surface mounted thermocouples and I will measure front and rear header pipes simultaneously while riding. I and also curious about the front and rear cylinder temps and the temp at the cat, which I think might be the hottest spot on the exhaust. I plan on starting this weekend (4/18) and guess I should take some photos.
Tommy P.
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Just paid $250 for header and crossover with Jet Hot Extreme Sterling. 12 day turn around. Look great, they did nice job coating inside and out. For what it's worth, I am going to take temperature readings before ( factory stock '09 SEUC) and after (SE A/C, 1 3/4" Fullsac, TTS, Non Cat 96" header with Jet Hot, Amsoil.) I will be using a dual input digital thermometer with surface mounted thermocouples and I will measure front and rear header pipes simultaneously while riding. I and also curious about the front and rear cylinder temps and the temp at the cat, which I think might be the hottest spot on the exhaust. I plan on starting this weekend (4/18) and guess I should take some photos.
Tommy P.
great Tommy, many here are curious on the numbers...thanks
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I just received my pipe from an ebay win and turned it right around to Jet Hot. They will be doing the Extreme Silver coating for me as well.
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I just received my pipe from an ebay win and turned it right around to Jet Hot. They will be doing the Extreme Silver coating for me as well.
I'll bet you're the guy that beat my bid on ebay :bigcry:
Well... in the long run, it worked out pretty good. I wound up cutting my header in half and ripping the CC out myself and welding it back together. The learning experience was definately worth it. I'm lucky I have a good friend who welds :bananarock:
Now the header is at Jet-Hot getting coated. 'tis all good!
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I'll bet you're the guy that beat my bid on ebay :bigcry:
Well... in the long run, it worked out pretty good. I wound up cutting my header in half and ripping the CC out myself and welding it back together. The learning experience was definately worth it. I'm lucky I have a good friend who welds :bananarock:
Now the header is at Jet-Hot getting coated. 'tis all good!
Sorry if I beat your bid but it wasnt done personally to you but I am glad I finally got one. I ended up getting it for 152.51 plus shipping... I cant wait to get it back from Jet Coat and then go get everything tuned up nice.
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I had mine "ceramic coated" inside & out. They use a copper color inside & your choice out. I went matte black. "Jet Hot" is a brand name. Just my $.02
Mike
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you guys who found pipes on ebay...what did you search for, I am having no luck at all
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you guys who found pipes on ebay...what did you search for, I am having no luck at all
I just did a search on "09 Harley Davidson touring exhaust". I just checked ebay and didnt see anything
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Don't forget to call as many of your local HD shops close or near where you live to see if they have any 09 touring pipes laying around.
Sometimes the service dept will have extras laying around in the "bone yard"... After an exhaust upgrade some folks leave their parts behind.
Mine had a set they uncovered... after I had already done the cut, rip and weld...
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Yes, most HD dealers just throw away the replaced 09 header pipes or keep them around for a while.
My dealer has three sets lying a round.
I paid 50 for them and 1 hour of labor.
Great investment. You should look at the restrictive stock CVO header pipes with the cat. Yuk
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I've finally gotten around to getting some pipes for my 07 CUSE. For those of you that have coated pipes- What do you think? How much difference has it made? Which coating did you get?
tia
arctic
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I just did a search on "09 Harley Davidson touring exhaust". I just checked ebay and didnt see anything
Cut and paste the following into your search box on Ebay, and then save it in Saved Searches so you can run it whenever you want. It will get you pretty much everything but keep out the aftermarket headers. You'll still have to weed through the listings a little but it cuts out a bunch of irrelevant cr@p. Good luck!
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Just found a guy in my own nieghborhood that dose powder coating, Just gave it to him 20 minutes ago. 100.00 It'll be ready Saturday. Calling Jet Hot and canceling my order...........................................Fuzz
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Just found a guy in my own nieghborhood that dose powder coating, Just gave it to him 20 minutes ago. 100.00 It'll be ready Saturday. Calling Jet Hot and canceling my order...........................................Fuzz
Powder coating isn't the same as ceramic coating that Jet-Hot does. My understanding is that the ceramic coating is where you get the heat benefits.
Randall
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Don't know much about the process but this compnay has done several and they are reasonable and appear to know what they are talking about. Classic Coating will do either a ceramic or powder.
http://www.engineceramics.com/kilncure.htm
http://www.engineceramics.com/id_coating.htm
Good explanation of the difference between powder coating and ceramic. Ceramic is the way to go. Can handle temp's up to 2000. Powder only 500
http://www.classiccoatings.com/ceramic.html
http://www.classiccoatings.com/powder.html
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Installed my non-cat header (jet-hot) yesterday. Install went very easy.
One thing I did notice, was the chrome on the heat shield that went over the cat area was starting to blister.
Fortunately the non-cat pipe I bought came with heat shields so I was able to replace it.
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Installed my non-cat header (jet-hot) yesterday. Install went very easy.
One thing I did notice, was the chrome on the heat shield that went over the cat area was starting to blister.
Fortunately the non-cat pipe I bought came with heat shields so I was able to replace it.
I bet with the cat in the collector area on the '09 cvo touring bikes, it gets really hot right there on the heat shield. I'd think the MoCo would have to warranty the blistering since they put the cat in that adds all the heat on the shield.
Randall
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I just did a search on "09 Harley Davidson touring exhaust". I just checked ebay and didnt see anything
Heres a Buy it now at $399.99 So I guess these Non Cat Headers from a 96 CI have to be from an 08 or 09 huh?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-Davidson-Exhaust-Header-Pipe-2008-Flhtcu_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247QQcategoryZ35573QQihZ023QQitemZ360152040767QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V#ht_3976wt_1069
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Heres a Buy it now at $399.99 So I guess these Non Cat Headers from a 96 CI have to be from an 08 or 09 huh?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-Davidson-Exhaust-Header-Pipe-2008-Flhtcu_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247QQcategoryZ35573QQihZ023QQitemZ360152040767QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V#ht_3976wt_1069
It's wrong. It has to be from a 2009.
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Heres a Buy it now at $399.99 So I guess these Non Cat Headers from a 96 CI have to be from an 08 or 09 huh?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-Davidson-Exhaust-Header-Pipe-2008-Flhtcu_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247QQcategoryZ35573QQihZ023QQitemZ360152040767QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V#ht_3976wt_1069
I've been watching that one for a while. It appears to be for a 2009, but the seller apparently doesn't know that. It has been relisted once. I wonder if anyone has made an offer...
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It's wrong. It has to be from a 2009.
I was thinking the 2 -1-2 wasn't till ALL of the 09 models. Thanks!
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I was thinking the 2 -1-2 wasn't till ALL of the 09 models. Thanks!
Part of the new touring frame package.